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Thunderful Group, a Swedish publisher has released their annual report for this fiscal year. In it, Deadly Premonition 2 is mentioned to have a Steam only-digital release this year. Seeing it doesn't mention any other stores, it's safe to say this will be a Steam exclusive that will be announced soon. Here's a link to the annual report itself. You'll see it on page 18.

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Richter1887

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I am a big fan of the first game.

Meh

Even if the performance got fixed, the game itself doesn't come close to the quality of the first game and has some really bad story telling at some parts of the game. Not to mention, the pacing is really awful.
 

AllEchse

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Did anyone even ask for this?
When you looked past the technical problems it had on Switch, was there anything worth salvaging?
I mean even fans hated it as far as I know.
 

Patitoloco

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I know it's not as well received as the prequel, but at least being playable with a decent framerate is A-OK for me.
 

Richter1887

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Did anyone even ask for this?
When you looked past the technical problems it had on Switch, was there anything worth salvaging?
I mean even fans hated it as far as I know.
I desperately wanted to like it but I kept disliking it more and more as I thought about it. I was happy we got a sequel but what we got only muddled the story of the first game (which I now realize didn't need a sequel).

So yeah, skip it if you loved the first game.
 

Patazord

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I was waiting for this, the framerate on the switch was too horrible for me to care at all.
 

Eblo

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hopefully it has random crashes like the pc port of the first game
 

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It'll be interesting to see what the performance is like, though I shudder to think of how unplayable this could potentially still be if the PC version is buggier than the Switch version.
 

AshenOne

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About time i say since the exclusivity period might be ending in July 2021 since it released on the Switch in July last year as well..
 

Dascu

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I really liked the story, writing and characters. It's very different than the original though, so don't expect a copy of that.
 

Taruranto

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I forgot this game ever happened, it was so underwhelming and also really bad to be honest.
 

roly82

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Frame rate and loading times were one of the problems of the game but the rest isn't decent enough to play this version.

The action parts were insulting, and the new cast didn't catch me.
 

Zor

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Despite all the tech issues, wasn't this game problematic as hell too?

I put off playing it at the time because of the woeful framerate but I remember some of Swery's character portrayals being rather upsetting and him vouching to address things in some way.
 

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Did they delete the entire THE LORD HUNGERS section of the game too because that was just bafflingly bad.
 
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I am a big fan of the first game.

Meh

Even if the performance got fixed, the game itself doesn't come close to the quality of the first game and has some really bad story telling at some parts of the game. Not to mention, the pacing is really awful.

Similar boat here. Deadly Premonition 1 is usually my go to answer for my all time favorite game.
The sequel was just okay, I like it enough, but it's no where near the quality of the first game. The performance has nothing to do with my opinion on the game too.

Though it would be interesting if the PC version was easily moddable. It would be cool to see people practically remove the combat segments or mess with some of the other elements of the game.
 

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Despite all the tech issues, wasn't this game problematic as hell too?

I put off playing it at the time because of the woeful framerate but I remember some of Swery's character portrayals being rather upsetting and him vouching to address things in some way.
He sure proved he wasn’t as trans friendly as he liked to put across and berated Laura Kate on Twitter for “making him part of your agenda” for trying to get to the bottom of it so fuck him, fuck his trash ass games.
 

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it would be a plus to have the game on a platform where it can run decently (since the performance on switch is still just terrible), but even after that the game is just... trash imo.

what a huge letdown after 1. i played it once 2 was announced, and it became one of my favorite games of all time. 2 on the other hand, it was just unbelievably bad. just a very unsatisfying experience, and a terrible sequel to a great game. it's a step down from the original in almost every aspect. and on top of that, there's some problematic (racist and transphobic) content in the game.

So yeah, skip it if you loved the first game.
best advice.
 

Linus815

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It was so bad, it was simply bad. Also with how awful the PC port of the first one was, and how awful the technical state of the 2nd is on switch... eh. DP1 ran fine on the 360 at least.
 

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even if the game was good and worth playing (which its not) i wouldnt recommend it given the transphobic content it has and swery's refusal to fix it. it actually really disappointed me the most on that front.
 

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Saw someone play the first one on Twitch. Genuinely terrible game on all fronts. Surprised it got a sequel and to hear it is apparently worse.
 

Dascu

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Despite all the tech issues, wasn't this game problematic as hell too?

I put off playing it at the time because of the woeful framerate but I remember some of Swery's character portrayals being rather upsetting and him vouching to address things in some way.
No, it was addressed in a patch, as far as I recall. I don't recall any dead-naming or misgendering at least when I played it a few months ago.

even if the game was good and worth playing (which its not) i wouldnt recommend it given the transphobic content it has and swery's refusal to fix it. it actually really disappointed me the most on that front.
Pretty sure he did fix it though.
 

Aerial51

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I feel like such a vacuum when it comes to this game lol.

Am i the only one that likes this just as much and in some parts even more than the first one?
 

Zor

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No, it was addressed in a patch, as far as I recall. I don't recall any dead-naming or misgendering at least when I played it a few months ago.

Isn't it more than that?

I mean, a few posters in here are saying the game still has transphobic (and racist) content, not to mention Swery calling out Laura Kate Dale on her criticism over transphobic elements.
 

Tregard

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No, it was addressed in a patch, as far as I recall. I don't recall any dead-naming or misgendering at least when I played it a few months ago.

If memory serves a lot of the remaining problems were character issues and plot points that were baked into the cutscenes and dialogue, more all-encompassing points that would have required the whole thing to be changed. It's a shame those larger changes weren't made, but not surprising, and I'm happy to hear the dead-naming was removed at least.
 

Dascu

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Their was more to it than just that, and he refused to fix it to the point of attacking the community for asking for it to be fixed.
Can you clarify what was still in that he didn't address? I really don't remember noticing anything.

I mean, a few posters in here are saying the game still has transphobic (and racist) content, not to mention Swery calling out Laura Kate Dale on her criticism over transphobic elements.
Given some translation/language issues, I wouldn't give too much weight to twitter arguments. I thought he did apologize later on.
 

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I feel like there were times early on were I was riding really high on the game, but by the midway point I started to feel fairly let down.
i did like the game in the 2019 sections. the writing was good, aaliyah and simon were good characters i liked the narrative framing. then we get to 2005 and the drop in quality was just too much. the pacing was off, everything felt rushed, the sidequests were bad and unessential when they were such a huge part of why people love the original, and honestly the whole thing just felt unfinished.
 

Zor

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Can you clarify what was still in that he didn't address? I really don't remember noticing anything.

I haven't played the game myself but Google tells me Swery, as one example, edited York's lines to not deadname a specific character, but kept the fact that the character themselves goes ahead and still does it.
 

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Can you clarify what was still in that he didn't address? I really don't remember noticing anything.
I’m not sure the details, full disclosure I think his games are trash, not so bad it’s good trash, just trash trash so I didn’t really follow it too closely but I listen to Sterlings podcast and Laura Kate is on that and Swery attacked her publicly on Twitter over it and James Stephanie (who is a big reason the first game got the exposure it did) was really upset also and they have given up on him completely so my gut tells me it wasnt fixed. If I played it I could probably figure it out quick but you couldn’t pay me to play his games based on quality alone.
 

Aostia82

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play it, people!
a technical MESS but such a good experience
it was similar and different to the first one, at the same time
at the end, a great ride, imho
 
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I believe, the issue that people are talking about that wasn't fixed, and cant really be fixed at this point, is that the trans character's place in the overall story falls into problematic tropes.
A lot of the script was fixed though, to my understanding.

It's unfortunate after The Missing, which many people found to be excellent in this regard.
 

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No, it was addressed in a patch, as far as I recall. I don't recall any dead-naming or misgendering at least when I played it a few months ago.
the transphobic content is not just the dead-naming (altho that was something that was just egregious and thankfully got fixed). the whole idea that swery's idea of trans representation was having an incestuous psychopath trans woman as the villain came off terribly, specially considering how the treatment of thomas was the low point of the original game's story (imo).
 

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I believe, the issue that people are talking about that wasn't fixed, and cant really be fixed at this point, is that the trans character's place in the overall story falls into problematic tropes.
A lot of the script was fixed though, to my understanding.
the transphobic content is not just the dead-naming (altho that was something that was just egregious and thankfully got fixed). the whole idea that swery's idea of trans representation was having an incestuous psychopath trans woman as the villain came off terribly, specially considering how the treatment of thomas was the low point of the original game's story (imo).
Right. I guess I saw that as a tragic character, manipulated and twisted by the 'real' villains, and not in any way some kind of indictment or nastiness towards trans people.
Given also some of the writing about her, as well as the protagonist and storyline of The Missing, it feels hard for me to then jump on Swery as if he's transphobic or anything.
 
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Right. I guess I saw that as a tragic character, manipulated and twisted by the 'real' villains, and not in any way some kind of indictment or nastiness towards trans people.
Given also some of the writing about her, as well as the protagonist and storyline of The Missing, it feels hard for me to then jump on Swery as if he's transphobic or anything.
I think I'm in a similar boat that I'm not jumping on him as being aggressively transphobic, but he is careless. He should have consulted people when engaging with these topics, I'm almost certain he did when working on The Missing.
 

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...it feels hard for me to then jump on Swery as if he's transphobic or anything.

I don't think many were accusing Swery of being a transphobe so much as being incredibly disappointed that, with the criticisms of trans tropes in the first game, and his (in my opinion stellar) growth shown in the work on The Missing, that it was colossally disappointing for him to do what he did in DP2.

And his reaction to some of those criticisms didn't help, language barrier or otherwise.

...but he is careless. He should have consulted people when engaging with these topics, I'm almost certain he did when working on The Missing.

Yeah, this.
 

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Right. I guess I saw that as a tragic character, manipulated and twisted by the 'real' villains, and not in any way some kind of indictment or nastiness towards trans people.
Given also some of the writing about her, as well as the protagonist and storyline of The Missing, it feels hard for me to then jump on Swery as if he's transphobic or anything.
i don't necessarily think he's transphobic, but he really missed the mark and just fell into some dated and problematic tropes when writing a trans character in DP2.

I think I'm in a similar boat that I'm not jumping on him as being aggressively transphobic, but he is careless. He should have consulted people when engaging with these topics, I'm almost certain he did when working on The Missing.
yeah. i don't think he set out to write a transphobic character but he just came off as clueless (specially with how he reacted to the criticisms). should have consulted with people about the themes he was going for in the story.
 

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It was really shocking how much Swery regressed when it came to the trans representation. His last game was one of the better games when it came to trans representation so that was disappointing. Of course we also have the racist parts and him getting mad people were pointing out the game was transphobic.

I was really disappointed in him.

i did like the game in the 2019 sections. the writing was good, aaliyah and simon were good characters i liked the narrative framing. then we get to 2005 and the drop in quality was just too much. the pacing was off, everything felt rushed, the sidequests were bad and unessential when they were such a huge part of why people love the original, and honestly the whole thing just felt unfinished.
Same here.

The 2019 parts should have been the main game. Aaliyah should have been the main character and the game shouldn't have been open world.
 

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This is what happens when a trash kusoge becomes a meme and sells way more copies than it should: you get a trash sequel but this time the joke is played out and nobody cares, just like Bad Rats.
 

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i did like the game in the 2019 sections. the writing was good, aaliyah and simon were good characters i liked the narrative framing. then we get to 2005 and the drop in quality was just too much. the pacing was off, everything felt rushed, the sidequests were bad and unessential when they were such a huge part of why people love the original, and honestly the whole thing just felt unfinished.
i agree that the sidequests really sucked and there were less interesting NPCs in general but the relationship and dynamic between Patty and York did so much for me that i could overlook some of those flaws.
The Moment to Moment Dialogue imo was just stronger than in the original Game
 

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The first one on PC is the worst troubleshooting experience I've ever had. After hours of utilizing mods and recommendations (like having to run it in Windows 98 compatibility mode???), I still couldn't get past the first cutscene without it crashing. I wonder how this port will be.
 

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The first one on PC is the worst troubleshooting experience I've ever had. After hours of utilizing mods and recommendations (like having to run it in Windows 98 compatibility mode???), I still couldn't get past the first cutscene without it crashing. I wonder how this port will be.
I had heard how awful the port of DP1 was, then I played it with DPfix and finished it without any crashing or save corruption or basically any problems whatsoever. I guess that's PC gaming for you.