Interesting, however I assume the "inside" of city is just actually the port, and the city and people is underground.
You're right, it's much better :)
Unless there's something a lot better we have no seen, Im not to fussed, it's not like this is a R* or Naughty dog game.
Very much this.
Edit: honestly it's not even worth it to engage with dumb negativity shit like this, i'm just gonna ignore and move on, game will be out soon.Congratulations you have both failed to grasp that people have different opinions to yourselves.
Likewise 🤡
Maybe try trolling somewhere else. Or should I ask why you are upset that people have a different opinion than you?
Weird, especially when Kojima said in the gameplay Porters aren't allowed inside the cities so maybe that changes in the story.Interesting, however I assume the "inside" of city is just actually the port, and the city and people is underground.
Weird, especially when Kojima said in the gameplay Porters aren't allowed inside the cities so maybe that changes in the story.
Yeah sorry I got what you meant I honestly meant to respond to the map itself not youI think I wasn't clear, I don't actually think we'll be going inside any cities, the reddit post does show something interesting, but I think they misinterpreted the map. I'm certain we will mostly be talking to hologram people and waking through desolation for 99% of the game.
No worries :)Yeah sorry I got what you meant I honestly meant to respond to the map itself not you
All the holograms and the limited physical interaction with NPCs make me feel like there may be Nier Automata-like twist down the line
How is giving my opinion negating yours? I thought we were here to talk :)Congratulations you have both failed to grasp that people have different opinions to yourselves.
Again no one tould you you were wrong beside yourself lol. You gave your opinion I gave mine, that's it. You sound stressed :)I'm not the one quoting ppl telling there opinion is wrong.
Theres a difference between answering the thread topic and stating your opinion and quoting ppl and telling them there wrong.
No need to be so touchy, they're just stating their opinion just like you didCongratulations you have both failed to grasp that people have different opinions to yourselves.
How is giving my opinion negating yours? I thought we were here to talk :)
And yeah congrats on doing what you accuse others of doing ;)
No need to be so touchy, they're just stating their opinion just like you did
So again, who told you are wrong? I specifically said you're right in my comment :)I'm not doing what I'm acusing others of doing, there's is a difference between posting your opinion in a thread and quoting people and saying there wrong, like what's the point in just saying"your wrong" to Somone.
I'm not going around quoting posts in this threads saying "there wrong" am I.
And yes we are here to talk but "your wrong" is not really a serious way to start a constructive dialogue is it, it's like something a kid would say who has not gotten there way.
So again, who told you are wrong? I specifically said you're right in my comment :)
You say without having played DS that it's not gonna be big like a R or ND game that you probably played, I consider without having played DS that it's gonna be better than the latest R* and NG games that I played.
I just have a lot more faith in R* and ND to deliver a game I will really enjoy.
Since MGS4 kojimi has been going down hill for me.
I never said you're wrong, you stated your opinion, I responded with mine. Both opinions are valid since they are not yet verifiable, so no one told you you were wrong, you can qui trying to rile people up and for example explain and detail why you think DS is not gonna me as big as a R or NG game, we're here to talk after all :)
I dont get how you could have misunderstood me but it's alright dont sweat it :) so why do you think DS won't be as big as a R or ND production? I'd like to read your developed opinion
Oh I'm sorry I thought you said something else, my mistake.
But you guilty of what u are saying, how do u know DS is "much better" without playing it.
Also don't lie, I never said DS is not going to be big like a r* or ND game.
I said DS is not a r* or ND game, which it isn't.
I don't know if its better, it's my personal opinion that it will be, just like it's your opinion that it won't, and as I said both opinions are not yet verifiable so both are "valid", the only one guilty of anything would be you when you thought I said your opinion is wrong :)Oh I'm sorry I thought you said something else, my mistake.
But you guilty of what u are saying, how do u know DS is "much better" without playing it.
Also don't lie, I never said DS is not going to be big like a r* or ND game.
I said DS is not a r* or ND game, which it isn't.
Unless there's something a lot better we have no seen, Im not to fussed, it's not like this is a R* or Naughty dog game.
He's allowed to say it doesn't grab him.And this is your first post in this thread.
Imagine coming to a thread dedicated to the game and drop this take. What are you even adding here besides the obvious trolling?
But he could participate and explain why the game doesnt grab him as much as a R or ND game, I know I told him why it grabbed me personaly, we're here to talk after all :)He's allowed to say it doesn't grab him.
He shouldn't try to shut down other people's opinions just because they don't share his own though.
I don't know if its better, it's my personal opinion that it will be, just like it's your opinion that it won't, and as I said both opinions are not yet verifiable so both are "valid", the only one guilty of anything would be you when you thought I said your opinion is wrong :)
Technically that's true that you didnt say it wont be big, so sorry about that, however you said :
"Unless there's something a lot better we have no seen, Im not to fussed, it's not like this is a R* or Naughty dog game"
There are actually a few interesting points there that I should have focused on instead of only the snarky comment :)
There is more to be seen, it is clearly know there is stuff kept hidden for release, we just dont know how much or what exactly. It's just like tgere was stuff kept hidden for release in GoW and RDR2. Sure RDR2 and GoW could be considered more easily "attractive" pre release than DS, but still, the best stuff was kept hidden, on purpose in these games, and it worked. It sure seems the same is happening here, could be only story wise but also gameplay wise.
So you're not fussed by the pre release material of DS, maybe because the pre release material is not as good in your opinion than the pre release material of say RDR2 or GOW. That's a valid opinion, just like mine when I say I personaly think the pre release is just as good, and implies even more stuff for release so it seems really good for me
See we're both right until nov8 :)
He's allowed to say it doesn't grab him.
He shouldn't try to shut down other people's opinions just because they don't share his own though.
Why are they dumb comparisons?
I expect it's not actually going to be set in America or Earth at all.
All of this is perfectly understandable. I completely get that the marketing and footage shown can leave people perplex, wanting to see more. It's think that's what it wants to do : leave you wondering what else there is and where and how far it goes. It will work on a part of the audience, and it wont on the other part who want to have more information.I have never claim the final quality of DS, I'm more the type of person to check a game out when it's released before making any final judgements.
I have more convidence in R* and ND then kojima.
The are some things I like with the pre release footage, it has great visuals, I like the loading up items and the traversal mechanics. It looked like a simple side mission from fallout 4, you deliver some items, encounter the vagabond outpost and kill a boss, it looks good but I want to know a bit more about what most of the missions are and how they tie into the story.
I actually had the same attitude with RDR2, I expected a current gen version of RDR1.
All of this is perfectly understandable. I completely get that the marketing and footage shown can leave people perplex, wanting to see more. It's think that's what it wants to do : leave you wondering what else there is and where and how far it goes. It will work on a part of the audience, and it wont on the other part who want to have more information.
Personaly I trust Kojipro as much as I trust R and ND to make good games. That's 3 studios that imo make great games(yeah DS is Kojipro's first but the main team is feom before). And also I'm pretty convinced Kojima loves "trolling" as he prouved in previous pre releases, which I think he's also guilty of doing here :) we just dont know to what extent he's trolling, and I belive he's trolling a lot with DS.
I will also say that the dameplay demos personaly also convinced me, but I can understand how some could find them underwhelming. We will soon see evrything they had in store for us soon anyway :)
They're definitely going to be in the game.