Sony saw the review scores ahead of time and that's why they let Kojima announce the PC version because they didn't care anymore 😂
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Death Stranding: A Hideo Kojima Game Strand
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It's why I think reviews should get rid of the number.
"Too much water - 7.8" means people don't actually read reviews. They always look at the number first
I feel like it's gonna be in the low to mid 80s. I don't think it's gonna reach the 90s when the game is looking to be controversial already.
I hope if it reviews well it does so because it is fun to play, engaging, that sort of thing rather than just being different. It'll suck imo if we have to hear "you just don't get it or appreciate a true artiste" if people don't dig it.
Everything's gonna be fine. This game will have long legs, with all the walking involved.
Word of mouth is more important here than marketing. Imagine a more refined version of mgs v controls... At least I hope the team can bridge that gap
Presentation seems evolved, I like it.
But I liked SotC for its 'empty' design and negative space. And played NMS for over a thousand hours, so I guess the premise of walking endlessy alone sounds relaxing to me
Word of mouth is more important here than marketing. Imagine a more refined version of mgs v controls... At least I hope the team can bridge that gap
Presentation seems evolved, I like it.
But I liked SotC for its 'empty' design and negative space. And played NMS for over a thousand hours, so I guess the premise of walking endlessy alone sounds relaxing to me
Guess Greg Millers fucked then, cos he said in KFGD he hadn't finished it.
Opinions like these are a major problem within the industry.
Don't get obsessed over a number. I admit your fear is contagious, but it can still be an outstanding experience without being (as Metacritic would wrongly put it) a universally acclaimed game. It comes to mind what happened with The Last Guardian in 2016: it got a positive 82 but more perfect scores and awards than most games that or any other year this generation.
As long as the general reaction is good and people are enthusiastic about it, this will be a game discussed for a long time (of course, it could be a disaster and also be remembered for years, but let's stay positive for once).
As long as the general reaction is good and people are enthusiastic about it, this will be a game discussed for a long time (of course, it could be a disaster and also be remembered for years, but let's stay positive for once).
If reviewers stop spoilling the shit out of the games maybe i would read reviews. :P Good think im able to see if im going to enjoy a game or not just by looking at game footage. And im usually on point, unless thers something broken in the game. Reading the Metacritic review quotes from diferent sorces is usually the best to me to know if thers something broken or not.
The review confirms it's mostly a walking simulator and might get tedious if you break too far from the main quest path. Also base building is back from MGSV.is this leaked 9/10 review real? (Maybe spoilers in the post)
anybody read finnish?
Screencap from the thread (no spoilers in english except a couple of gameplay screens of standing/carrying things):
It isn't for everyone and scores will vary wildly.
when the mods show up in the review threadOh you already know, even if it gets a 90+ Kojima fans are gonna be out here reading the reviews like
Tonight is gonna be fun.
Considering most reviewers grade games along the academic scale, 81 is pretty close to middle of the road, low for a Kojima game.
I mean come on man. Is this not, by all appearances, an SP open world checklist objective game at its core (I like those sometimes!)? Have there been none of those this gen?
Yeah, that I why I avoid review threads like the plague, the discourse is the same toxic shit for decades now.
I'm curious, what meta would it need to settle at for you to keep you CE pre-order.
I'm keeping my CE pre-order no matter what, but I don't know about my Pro pre-order.
For me:
Less than 75 OC (Meta is crap) = likely cancel Pro
Less than 65 OC = cancel CE
I think your CE is safe then lol.
As for the pro... i'm thinking less than 85 and i'll have to reconsider.
I think that (85) is fair tbh. I just don't want to stare at something that is seemingly awful lol.
This isn't an open-world checklist lol. I don't remember an open world using traversal as main mechanic + character micromanagement. Honestly, this game is more a puzzle than action-adventure.
If they use a 10 point scale, 8 is great.
That does t necessarily mean someone will love the game, same way a 6 doesn't mean someone can't enjoy a game, but 8/10 is a great score regardless.
At least for rational people.
83-88 seems like a safe bet unless it is really divisive with more objective flaws
Like I said, traditionally, review scores use the academic scale. 90-100 is an A, 80-90 is B, 70-80 is a C etc. People (I don't know about non-Americans) have that system hammered into them here. That's why anything under 7 is generally considered garbage.
I would say the major differentiator between a "81" and a "61" (generalizing a bit here for example), normalized and taking into account that different reviewers have different views on what a "middle of the road" score is , is that certain games in the 81-ish range could be extremely important to a lot of people, despite their flaws. Parts of those are brilliant, resonate with a particular fan, etc, which makes those people willing to overlook other issues that most players would be more critical of.
So mid-tier ratings often have very passionate fans, as well as some very high reviews pulling the overall score up from the 60/70 range. As opposed to lower averages which might also be true average games, yet lack that certain something that attracts hardcore fans and the stand-out high scores.
I'm basically saying that a lot of 60-ish games are very comparable to low 80-ish games overall, outside one or two brilliant aspects that elevate the scores.
I'm a bit tipsy, so I hope that made sense!
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Ask yourself a question. Do you think Kojima would be satisfied with his work scoring 81 given all his previous achievements?
Plenty of stores break release date. The manager of the CEX near me advised me to always come in and ask ahead of time, because he's happy to sell early.
How the hell would I know? I don't know the guy personally.
8/10 is a good score. 8/10 means it is a very good game.
Depends on the game, I guess. As soon as they get them in, but that can vary.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't care that much how his game "scores". He's a creator, he wants to bring something new. Art isn't about numbers, it seems very few people understand that here.
Sometimes 7 days is possible. But Sony recently started to ship very close to release date to avoid this. Depends on country though. In Germany they cracked down as mentioned and now you get them a day before at best
Yes, he's a film fanatic and knows a bunch of all time great films that were reviled or low scoring that ended up being considered masterpieces over time.
He probably knows this type of game won't be for everyone and just want's to make something unique.
Kojima has no real reason to care about the reviews unless it impacts sales and hamper his ability to secure budgets going forward
...People actually think the number score means anything for games? I assumed everyone here was just joking. The only reasonable way to use review media to assess whether you'll want a game from is to find a reviewer who shares similar interests and actually read what they have to say.
Kojima wanted so badly to do something different after being "forced" all this years tied with the Metal Ger franchise that I really doubt he cares at all... also he has stated that this game might not be for everyone.
I read almost the whole review and saw nothing implying that it is basically a walking simulator and that can be boring the side content.Where did say base building is back?
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