I'm really kind of upset about this. I've been mixed about this game, but I didn't want to believe Kojima was this kind of person.
Wait what kind of person? At worst it just seems like he has researched something but maybe not gone enough into the subject.
it's not that he researched it or didn't. It's that, intentional or not, it comes off as extremely asexual-phobic and draws on many negative views and stereotypes.
This is unrelated but the whole "Birth Rates and a drop in Sexual Assault mean that interest in sex is waning," is just weird, and even if your point is true it really needs to be worded better.
However it is unrelated so I won't go much further from there.
Youre shocked that a man who displays constant misogyny is bad at representing sexuality?I'm really kind of upset about this. I've been mixed about this game, but I didn't want to believe Kojima was this kind of person.
Youre shocked that a man who displays constant misogyny is bad at representing sexuality?
I'm hesitant to just copy-paste tweets here, so I'll link what I've said on Twitter about this thing in Death Stranding:
Basically, I think it has a lot to do with ignorance about what asexuality actually is and a lot to do with Kojima's laymen understanding of what memes (as in, the scientific concept of memes as originally described by Dawkins) are. I also think it's an attempt to directly comment on the low birthrate issue in Japan specifically, and it shows a very low information, "Facebook uncle" (as Naomi puts it in that second thread) understanding of the causes of the low birth rate.
I mean, the definition of "asexual" as presented in Death Stranding is "incapable of feeling desire or attraction" which is completely inaccurate, as you describe. It's a scapegoat used in Japan to explain the low birth rate without addressing the many, many societal reasons the birth rate is so low there.
I think it also shows, however, a blending with the concept of memes. The idea that knowledge of the asexual identity has spread among the population is pretty explicit. But it fails to show an understanding that this knowledge only enables asexual people to better understand themselves—it does not, in itself, cause asexuality to "proliferate".
It's also putting the asexual label on voluntary celibacy which is just so ignorant. Asexual people have sex. Asexual people sometimes choose not to have sex. Asexual people experience all sorts of attraction. Asexual people can desire sex. Asexual people have children. Et cetera.
Whether Kojima himself wrote that, I don't know. But I think he either writes most of it or has strong editorial oversight. I'd love to see what it said in Japanese to better understand whether there's a localization issue as well. Regardless, it's in his game, the one with his name plastered all over it—I don't think it's a stretch to reason that this is representing some idea of his.
And yeah, I love his games generally, but I was just waiting for the "problematic" show to drop in DS given his history with Quiet and such. Didn't think it would be about Ace people though.
As for Pavarti, she's easily my favorite new character of 2019 and they did a great job representing us realistically with her.
(Also, thank you for explicitly explaining that we can be attracted to aesthetics.)
Yeah it comes across as him reacting to all the "Japanese youth no longer interested in sex" hysteria that Japan's going through, and talking out of his ass haha.
Yeah it really feels like a "response" (if you want to call it that) to Japan's birth rate issues that doesn't make the leap from culture to culture properly in addition to being a shit take. Practically a Kojima trademark at this point.
I'm really kind of upset about this. I've been mixed about this game, but I didn't want to believe Kojima was this kind of person.
Youre shocked that a man who displays constant misogyny is bad at representing sexuality?
Tell no to Kojima?Yeah I see what happened here. He tried to tie Japan's birth rate problems into all these different sexualities. I see how he got there, it's just...fucking garbage lol. Someone should've told him that.
Nobody has said no to Kojima since MGS3Yeah I see what happened here. He tried to tie Japan's birth rate problems into all these different sexualities. I see how he got there, it's just...fucking garbage lol. Someone should've told him that.
You guys completely miss all the interviews which stated how collaborative Kojima was to work with?
The hate the man gets on this forum is so unfounded.
Why are you defending this? The buck stops with him on this game. He gets all the praise as well as the criticism.You guys completely miss all the interviews which stated how collaborative Kojima was to work with?
The hate the man gets on this forum is so unfounded.
I was obviously responding to the comments 'no one say no to Kojima'
Hideo Kojima is the director of Death Stranding , is he not? It is his vision, is it not? If you can praise him for his unique approach and very particular style of video games ,surely you can criticize fot the shit hes done and approved . Thats how it worksYou guys completely miss all the interviews which stated how collaborative Kojima was to work with?
The hate the man gets on this forum is so unfounded.
There seems to be a lot of bullshit in death stranding. The more I find out about these details, others more spoilery, the more I am quite put off.
Just... what's the need? I'll probably pick the game up one day as I do want to see it all in context as a sum of it's parts. But a lot of it just seems needless.
Maybe before you jump it to every thread to stan the dude, take a read.
People in this thread have clearly said that Kojima cant be responsible for every detail in the game.
People really out here trying to say that the game director doesn't have to approve damn near everything that goes into the game.Kojima is only responsible for the cool stuff. Anything questionable, must have been someone else. Can't blame the guy for directing the game and being the main creative force behind it!
/s, obviously.
Hideo Kojima is the director of Death Stranding , is he not? It is his vision, is it not? If you can praise him for his unique approach and very particular style of video games ,surely you can criticize fot the shit hes done and approved . Thats how it works