I figure that but don't recall seeing a plane crashing like that during those war segements.
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Death Stranding |OT| Peace Walker
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I figure that but don't recall seeing a plane crashing like that during those war segements.
Me neither, I'm 80% sure that didn't happen. But then there was a lot going on at some points so I could have missed it
What would DLC for Death Stranding even look like though, and why would it be teased with 1917?
Reconnect Western Europe? Lol
It wouldn't surprise me if Kojima teased something new for Death Stranding while showing is love for films. As far as DLC goes, I ain't got a clue, but the plane crashing threw me off.
Def happened on my playthrough cos it smashed straight into me
Just platinumed the game the other day with about 90 hours on the clock. Great game, but man whenever I get absorbed in a game this much, first comes relief of finishing it after so long, but also that melancholy emptiness of it being over.
On to more games :P
On to more games :P
is there any way i can know if there are orders for sam in a certain knot ? Because it only shows orders in general on the map
Question about Mama's plot thread
Do I have it right with the understanding that Mama was only alive because of her BT baby, and that once it was untethered from her, and she was taken away from the site, she was going to fully die?
Thought this was an interesting tweet:
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And in case you're wondering why/how "Asylums for the Feeling" is playing in the background, at this particular location (spoiler, so hidden below):
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There's a neat story about how this particular song came to be featured in the game, ICYMI:
Incidentally, I did end up missing several of the song triggers during my playthrough, since there's often multiple routes available, during the course of the story missions.
For those interested, someone at reddit posted a list of the in-game songs, and the specific routes that trigger each of them (spoiler at the link): SPOILER: Here is a full list of Death Stranding in-game songs and the routes that trigger them
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And in case you're wondering why/how "Asylums for the Feeling" is playing in the background, at this particular location (spoiler, so hidden below):
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There's a neat story about how this particular song came to be featured in the game, ICYMI:
Posted this in the Game Soundtracks of 2019 thread, thought it was a cool story:
Silent Poets featuring Leila Adu -- "Asylums For The Feeling"
Death Stranding has been mentioned a lot, but I noticed a distinct lack of Leila Adu mentions. Leila's performance on "Asylums for the Feeling" -- a track licensed from the SILENT POETS album Dawn -- adds a great deal to contemplative moments in the game (as well as to the E3 2018 trailer).
"...Leila Adu is a New Zealand composer of Ghanaian descent who has composed for the New Jersey Symphony Orchestra, the Brentano String Quartet, So Percussion, Gamelan Padhang Moncar and Orchestra Wellington. She recently received her doctorate in music composition at Princeton University and taught music to prisoners at Sing Sing Correctional Facility as a faculty member of Musicambia – music for social change... London's 'Time Out' called her music, 'Avante-garde pop that recalls Nina Simone and Tim Buckley'..."
Era member @FantasticMrFoxdie posted the story of how the track came to be featured in the game:
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FantasticMrFoxdie said:Cool Story Kojima mentioned in the PS Blog
"A serendipitous bond (strand) formed between myself and SILENT POETS, whose song is featured in the trailer. We had a number of performance capture sessions in Japan, and met some amazing people who were part of the catering staff. Not only was the food exceptional, their hospitality was outstanding. One day, we found out that one of their members [Michiharu Shimoda of SILENT POETS] was a veteran musician. When we started talking, we learned that they were about to release an album for the first time in 12 years. When I listened to the sample they gave me, an image of Sam walking in the wilderness naturally popped into my head. It was the song 'Asylums for the Feeling' from the album Dawn..."
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Apparently Leila sang the song live last year, back in October. Too bad she hasn't gotten a Kojima retweet yet, as far as I can tell (though I don't really follow any game developers on twitter, so I might have missed it): https://twitter.com/leilaadu/status/1187837235988533248
Incidentally, I did end up missing several of the song triggers during my playthrough, since there's often multiple routes available, during the course of the story missions.
For those interested, someone at reddit posted a list of the in-game songs, and the specific routes that trigger each of them (spoiler at the link): SPOILER: Here is a full list of Death Stranding in-game songs and the routes that trigger them
Posting here instead of creating a new "LTTP - when does it get better?" thread lol.
So I started Death Stranding, 3 hours in (starting Amelie episode), and the game is putting me to sleep. I'm a huge MGS fan, these games are some of my fav ever since the PS1 days, always loved Kojima and DS was one of my most anticipated games last year (for reasons I couldn't get into it until now). I just don't know what he's done here. I dislike almost everything about the game:
- the body calibration mechanics, feels like I'm controlling a tank instead of a person, the whole wandering and exploration is so annoying because Sam can't quite keep straight. This is the most worrying part because I know this is the main mechanic of the game and I just don't find it fun at all. :/
- everything is so clunky and cumbersome, e.g. I'm in that home base place and I just want to get up and go outside but I'm wasting my time showering and sh*tting, moving the camera around until I'm allowed to find that hidden environment prompt. Wtf, not even Telltale Games are that bad. Also the menus, UI and controls are not intuitive at all, e.g. I was asked to soothe BB and that's a 3-button combination like it's a Tekken combo. Btw I'm someone who finds The Witcher 3's controls and menus fine.
- people say the beginning is gameplay-focused but so far it's been cutscene after cutscene for things I just don't care. Things are happening and characters are introduced without explanation, the whole idea of putting real-life actors in the game is just not working and don't get me started about all this jargon the game throws at you - BB, BT, DOOMS, BRIDGES, Voidout, jeez this is feels like FF13 all over again with the Fal'cie and L'cie nonsense. The whole thing feels like Kojima has lost the plot and this comes from someone who even loved MGS4's story and twists.
- while technically amazing the game world is so barren and uninteresting to explore with art direction that is so bland and just boring to me (ok, that's pretty subjective). I know that's influenced by the story but if for some people Horizon's world was empty then what can one say about Death Stranding?
... which leads me to the usual question (that I hate when it comes to games that I like :-)): does it get any better? Should I keep playing until I have seen the full gameplay loop and a bit more of the story or should I just give up? I know the game opens up a bit and there are philosopical topics explored but I'm not having fun so far. I didn't want to bounce off this game so much and it kind of saddens me that I just can't find one thing to love about this game.
So I started Death Stranding, 3 hours in (starting Amelie episode), and the game is putting me to sleep. I'm a huge MGS fan, these games are some of my fav ever since the PS1 days, always loved Kojima and DS was one of my most anticipated games last year (for reasons I couldn't get into it until now). I just don't know what he's done here. I dislike almost everything about the game:
- the body calibration mechanics, feels like I'm controlling a tank instead of a person, the whole wandering and exploration is so annoying because Sam can't quite keep straight. This is the most worrying part because I know this is the main mechanic of the game and I just don't find it fun at all. :/
- everything is so clunky and cumbersome, e.g. I'm in that home base place and I just want to get up and go outside but I'm wasting my time showering and sh*tting, moving the camera around until I'm allowed to find that hidden environment prompt. Wtf, not even Telltale Games are that bad. Also the menus, UI and controls are not intuitive at all, e.g. I was asked to soothe BB and that's a 3-button combination like it's a Tekken combo. Btw I'm someone who finds The Witcher 3's controls and menus fine.
- people say the beginning is gameplay-focused but so far it's been cutscene after cutscene for things I just don't care. Things are happening and characters are introduced without explanation, the whole idea of putting real-life actors in the game is just not working and don't get me started about all this jargon the game throws at you - BB, BT, DOOMS, BRIDGES, Voidout, jeez this is feels like FF13 all over again with the Fal'cie and L'cie nonsense. The whole thing feels like Kojima has lost the plot and this comes from someone who even loved MGS4's story and twists.
- while technically amazing the game world is so barren and uninteresting to explore with art direction that is so bland and just boring to me (ok, that's pretty subjective). I know that's influenced by the story but if for some people Horizon's world was empty then what can one say about Death Stranding?
... which leads me to the usual question (that I hate when it comes to games that I like :-)): does it get any better? Should I keep playing until I have seen the full gameplay loop and a bit more of the story or should I just give up? I know the game opens up a bit and there are philosopical topics explored but I'm not having fun so far. I didn't want to bounce off this game so much and it kind of saddens me that I just can't find one thing to love about this game.
Definitely. Quite a few guides contain similar advice:
- Kotaku - PSA: Get To Death Stranding Chapter 3 As Quickly As Possible
- Gamespot - Death Stranding Guide: Get To Episode 3 As Quickly As You Can
Some additional discussion, from earlier in the thread:
In short, you get a bunch of different traversal options/upgrades/tools later on, and once you get them, you don't have to engage with the balancing mechanics (L2/R2 stuff) anywhere near as much.
I also posted some balancing suggestions earlier in the thread: one / two.
If you're not enjoying the core gameplay then no I'd say that it doesn't get better. That said here's some answers:
1) You dont need to use the bathroom or shower, the grenades you get from either are pretty useless and you can run away from/avoid the BTs easily
2) Sam's stamina, balance, weight limit get better as he levels up after completing deliveries but these upgrades aren't common
3) You barely need to actually sooth BB. As long as you don't fall down or get attacked by BTs then BB will usually stay silent and you'll rarely need to take care of it.
4) Pretty much all the world is empty aside from preppers, bandit camps, and BT zones. You won't come across a town with non-hostile characters or anything like that
Definitely good suggestions above.
Perhaps worth mentioning: the Power Skeleton is a pretty dramatic upgrade (which is why I focus on it in this post).
On the other hand, it probably takes around 10-15 hours to actually get to the Power Skeleton (it's part of the main/story path).
So it's understandable if Steiner_Zi would rather quit before getting to that point.
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So I haven't played the game in over 3 weeks, maybe longer. Does anyone know if all my roads and ziplines will be doa or how does that work?
Thanks.
Thanks.
From what I can tell, the reddit comments pasted below are correct: deterioration stops completely when you quit the game.
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I completed the story in December, and I've been going back periodically (haven't gotten all the achievements quite yet).
And as I'm continuing to upgrade various structures (both mine and those of other players) as I go, I'm checking out the structures of other players (by hovering over them and pressing triangle while on the map): if the structures were originally spawned in early December, for example, the players who built them will often have stopped playing some time in January (pressing triangle when a structure is selected on the map lets you see the last time the builder logged on).
So basically: you don't have to worry about timefall deterioration at all, if you've completely stopped playing for a long time (timefall degradation completely stops if the game is turned off), but your structures may be 'dead' in another sense: many of the players who were using the structures in your particular gameworld may have stopped playing by now, especially if it's been a few months since you last played.
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Great. Thanks so much for the detailed response. I never really considered how others might not be using the structures because of leaving the game but that is a good point. I'm mostly just doing post game stuff for trophies so as long as I can zip around and make my deliveries I'll be good to go.From what I can tell, the reddit comments pasted below are correct: deterioration stops completely when you quit the game.
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I completed the story in December, and I've been going back periodically (haven't gotten all the achievements quite yet).
And as I'm continuing to upgrade various structures (both mine and those of other players) as I go, I'm checking out the structures of other players (by hovering over them and pressing triangle while on the map): if the structures were originally spawned in early December, for example, the players who built them will often have stopped playing some time in January (pressing triangle when a structure is selected on the map lets you see the last time the builder logged on).
So basically: you don't have to worry about timefall deterioration at all, if you've completely stopped playing for a long time (timefall degradation completely stops if the game is turned off), but your structures may be 'dead' in another sense: many of the players who were using the structures in your particular gameworld may have stopped playing by now, especially if it's been a few months since you last played.
Thanks again.
Don't know if this will matter to much (or if I completely missed it) but the new update allows you to skip with just pressing circle some cutscenes - the one when you lay your head down for a nap and your blood bag gets filled up and, after a second, when you pick up/drop off orders, as well as the ones when you use the elevator into your rest room.
Oh, and cutscenes when you travel in a quicker way.
Rest of them as far as I can tell it's still options and select skip, but there you go.
Cut all my ziplines if old.
Oh, and cutscenes when you travel in a quicker way.
Rest of them as far as I can tell it's still options and select skip, but there you go.
Cut all my ziplines if old.
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Glad it was helpful! Always nice reading updates from folks, as they're making their way through the game &/or post-game.
Nice, glad that they're still updating. I wonder what other tweaks we'll see, by the time of the PC release.
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Hoping for some PC news sometime soon. Also can't wait to see how some graphical features will be included in this game. Wanting some AO options for the grass and crevaces to add some more depth. Really also hoping Nvidia Ansel support. I'm not sure if the engine has physics tied to framerate but 60 and higher options would be nice too. It would really smooth out the crisp animations even more.
What did y'all think of the "Princess Beach" line?
I found it hilarious. That run across the beach scene too. Couldn't tell if it was intentionally silly or not though.
I found it hilarious. That run across the beach scene too. Couldn't tell if it was intentionally silly or not though.
Honestly, I thought it was fine. At that point in the game, either the story has you or it doesn't. If it does, it's only marginally more goofy than, say, everything Higgs does in the game, so it should be fine. If it doesn't, Princess Beach is just one more indignity to throw on the pile and the story probably lost you days ago.
and i actually am into the story. Go figure. I've realized Kojima's dialogue is the weakest thing about what he does.
I thought it was goofy and semi-intentional, and I also liked Higgs. Then again, I get Kojima's quirk so maybe that influences my perception of it all.
I laughed my ass off. Kojima had to be taking the piss.
I mean, it's obviously intentional and I assume he was going for satire like "hey, you finally made it to final castle and rescued the princess; this is what you expected, right?" only to subvert expectations with hours and hours of more weird story beats.
Everything in that cutscene makes a little more sense once you know the rest of the story btw.
well, i just reached the Evo-devo Biologist Prepper and the plot is giving me some Mass Effect vibes
really interested in see how the plot develops.
Btw, i usually dislike spending time reading things while playing , so i barely pay attention to emails and other info and data provided by the game, but maybe i am missing something interesting. Any advice on this? Any reports or things like that that should be read?
DS being something that happens every X time, is also a bit like the reapers and their extinction cicles
really interested in see how the plot develops.
Btw, i usually dislike spending time reading things while playing , so i barely pay attention to emails and other info and data provided by the game, but maybe i am missing something interesting. Any advice on this? Any reports or things like that that should be read?
I laughed at how bad it was, and I similarly have no idea if it was intentional. But it's not like that line is one of the actual problems I had with the writing or anything like that.
Mostly I just wish they had actually connected it with all the stuff Higgs was suddenly saying about boss battles and all that, rather than it just being a mostly disconnected reference despite being so close to those lines? "Your princess is in another castle" and so on is kinda tired meme territory anyway, but they could have easily used that or a reference to it to lead into a similar joke.
Nice! One thing to note about the reading (perhaps you're aware already): make sure to at least open the emails, since not opening them can block progress (i.e., prevent leveling up NPC locations), in some cases. You don't necessarily have to actually read the emails, though, just open them.
Other than that, since you're liking the story so far, for now I would probably only read interviews and emails if you find particular ones interesting, or if you start to find the story a bit confusing at some point.
Some wiki-type sites have compiled the interviews into one place, for easy reading outside of the game, but even the titles of the interviews contain a lot of spoilers, so for that reason probably not that helpful for someone still making their way through the game.
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Finished it and I enjoyed the story.
I was overall satifised, despite that last boss being what it was. Personally would have changed around some of the order of events, but it was very thoughtful, even touching.
Missed opportunity to render Sam's past to give his ending even more impact. That was an oversight.
Yeah I think that line was definitely intended just as a cute joke, but in addition, could be that Kojima feels like he's paying tribute in some small way with the Mario reference, given how much he seems to respect Miyamoto:
Feel free to read only the stuff you feel like reading. I read a whole bunch of it because I wanted the Platinum (you didn't actually have to read the interviews, just open them, but hey, why not?). I cannot tell you what was in any of them. I definitely remember some interesting tidbits here and there but if you wanted to skip all of it I don't think it would be a problem.
The single exception to this: read all the emails from the Chiral Artist and the Junk Dealer. Not because you'll learn a whole lot of lore, though. Just... well, you'll see. (Maybe you've already done this and understand.)
I'm curious did anyone else have no idea what Amelie's relationship to Sam was supposed to be throughout the game? Obviously you gain more insight toward the end but how did they know each other before? Sister, romantic interest? I don't remember it being explicitly said.
I probably should've paid closer attention or something because it partly soured my journey westward having no idea why Sam should care for this chick.
I probably should've paid closer attention or something because it partly soured my journey westward having no idea why Sam should care for this chick.
And either way, how tf did Sam not notice Amelie staying the same age literally since he was a baby?
They totally said directly she was his sister, multiple times, from early on. Granted, they have some weird tension in their scenes together, but they did say it.
also, it's kinda weird but there's an offhand line in an early scene...
about her not aging due to her body being on the beach (or something like that); I think it's in the scene at Central where she walks through a map of America?
of course, I don't know how well that actually lines up with what Sam assumes when the later reveals happen, but they did say that much
of course, I don't know how well that actually lines up with what Sam assumes when the later reveals happen, but they did say that much
Oh cool, I figured I must've missed that! Still is it explained how their relationship worked like...growing up?
Didn't Sam ever question why his "sister" was always an adult even when he was a child?
Some of the postgame interview files (Lucy's reports, mostly) do actually go over how that worked, but not in a ton of detail. May be worth looking them up if you're not gonna get them naturally anyway.
See my post above for the spoiler.
Thanks! I'll probably dive back in one of these days to mess around in the last chapter. I really enjoyed my time with the game, just missed a few things here and there story wise due to the sheer amount of exposition.
Thanks!!!, will take a look at those emails then, at least a few of them. I recently found that i could increase font size so it may be easier now since i sit quite far from the TV and small text is sometimes difficult to read.
Nice, yeah it was very good to hear that they put out an update to allow font size increase. I remember many folks were struggling with the small text when the game released.
So the Photo Mode, high frame rate, and ultra-wide monitor support all sound great!
Though as you noted, Nvidia Ansel support in particular would be great. No word on that yet, as far as I know. Maybe we could tweet to 505 Games?
Probably we can at least look forward to 16x Anisotropic Filtering and other standard PC options, as discussed in Digital Foundry's speculation video, from back in November:
DF Article: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-what-should-we-expect-from-death-stranding-pc
I noticed that YuSuzzune had a nice tip as well. I'm on the Humble Classic Plan, and for me the discount was 10% rather than 20%, but still definitely nice to have:
I was pretty touched by the ending.
It wasn't corny and ai was waiting for it to get there. I grew pretty attached to BB/Louise, which was no doubt the intention. So when it's revealed she's alive, and Sam steps out into the open and the rain clears, I was pretty satisfied with it.
But why did Kojima think the structure of episode 13 was a good idea? Running from the shore into the mountains 5+ times, to be met with exposition each time from Amelie was pretty weird. So weird that it seemed deliberate, but I fail to see what the intention, if any, there was.
But why did Kojima think the structure of episode 13 was a good idea? Running from the shore into the mountains 5+ times, to be met with exposition each time from Amelie was pretty weird. So weird that it seemed deliberate, but I fail to see what the intention, if any, there was.
Some neat screenshots that Era members have posted in the Console Screenshot Thread:
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So will certainly be interested to see what gets posted in the PC Screenshot thread eventually!
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So will certainly be interested to see what gets posted in the PC Screenshot thread eventually!
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Yeah that bit was just so you can see kojimas name in the credits about 10x without being able to skip it. Just run to the invisible walls each time and repeat. Was pointless
Well, Sam was on the beach a whole month. So I would guess it's to make you feel desolate as he would in that situation.
Although I do agree it was handled quite poorly. Going to one of the limits and teleporting back was it? That was kinda dumb. I would've made an infinite beach or something like that so you could go endlessly until the next exposition.
Although I do agree it was handled quite poorly. Going to one of the limits and teleporting back was it? That was kinda dumb. I would've made an infinite beach or something like that so you could go endlessly until the next exposition.
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Agree with this massively. Usually I love Kojima's trolling and can kind of see the point, but the mechanics of his games always leave me cold. For example I actually loved the first hour of MGSV and began to get bored with all the systems in the open world.
In DS it was the complete opposite - I loved the mechanics and was addicted to the general deliveries, whilst the overall story outside of caring for BB left me cold.
I've literally just done the final chapter (typing this whilst watching some more credits) and after having got to Edge Knot city it's gone from an amazing experience to a story that jumped the whale and left me a bit bored. I'd like revisiting places in the final missions and I'm pleased I played it as there isn't much like it, but I don't know if I could recommend it.
Also, the boss/battle fights sucked. Actually turned difficulty down just to be done with them. Play time of 72 hours, with 18 tonnes of cargo delievered.
Really liked the music in the promotional trailer above (it's a bit different from the track "Lou", on the original score), and I noticed, from Ludvig Forssell's twitter:
"I'm also happy to announce that the Pre-Order of the PC Digital Standard Edition also will include an Extended Digital version of the #DeathStranding score!"
Incidentally, someone from the Playstation audio team mentioned, in a recent interview: "...Well we had, I think, four or five people in Tokyo at Kojima Productions, including the audio director and composer Ludvig Forssell, who wrote about seven hours of music for this game—like, wrote seven hours. Usually our composers write about two, to two and a half hours. This guy is prolific..."
See also:
"...I'm joined backstage in a huddle by members of the audio team at Sony, who collaborated with Kojima Productions on Death Stranding. They feel like a large group, but it's actually representative of a surprisingly small team for a triple-A project featuring A-list actors... At the 2020 DICE Awards, members of Sony's audio team accepted the award for Outstanding Achievement in Audio Design. The cross-development team worked together swimmingly, they tell USgamer backstage at the awards..."
How Sony and Kojima Productions Played Telephone Across the Globe to Create Death Stranding's Soundscape
Backstage at the 23rd annual DICE Awards, the energy is electric. It's the tail end of a long week of networking, roundtables, and talks at DICE Summit 2020,...www.usgamer.net
Yeah, even just not resetting your position as much would have helped a lot. I get that they do want you to feel something through it... but it's probably a feeling that's stronger than general frustration, hah. So just an infinite area or, like, it gradually shifting back to the beach environment or something could have conveyed that better.
I have not played Death Stranding and I have avoided spoilers. I am quite interested to play the game but I would like to know if the game is complete? Are there plans for DLCs or anything? There is not going to be a Definitive/Complete/Gold/Game of the Year edition?
There has been nothing announced DLC-wise; everything so far that's been out so far has just been free QoL-focused updates. I don't think there's any paid cosmetic DLC or anything like that either, just preorder bonuses. And those bonuses aren't notable at all- it's basically just gold colored versions of equipment which you can only access when you get the equipment normally, and they're only available for the level 1 versions of them when there's levels 2 and 3 that you'll end up using instead.
They could always release something that bundles that in permanently, I guess, but that's about it. Otherwise, some of the QoL stuff they added (reduced BT cutscenes and easier repeated cutscene skip) has made me pretty jealous, so if you wait longer there may be even more of that added. So it's up to you if that matters.