Meh, not really I was going to buy it and play the shit out of it even if it scored a 2/10. Cool try tho.
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Death Stranding - Review Thread (see staff post for discussion guidelines)
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But to the same people " hated the gameplay, graphics, story, and atmosphere of death stranding " is,they just see what they want,the positive reviews explained what they liked,those who said otherwise didn't even read the reviews.
No youve been constantly moaning about reactions to it on this board which is why I'm not the only one in here who called you out for it. No one said someone isn't allowed to enjoy the game so idk why you thought your passive aggressive sarcasm in that post was even warranted other than to demonstrate how sensitive you are to the game being divisive.
I'm getting the game too. I will play the shit out of it. I also don't feel the need to make petty posts like yours because I'm upset others don't like it.
Yeah I've watching streams and havent seen whats so great about the story. All I see is long exposition about the way mechanics and the world works as well as intentionally vague/obtuse cutscenes. Obscurity =/= great. But apparently to many it does.
i feel like some people are making up imaginary posts and then get defensive about them.
i really don't see many people saying 83 is a bad score. if we judge a game's quality by only it's score, it's definitely a good one. it can't be denied tho that MOST people were expecting a higher score than the current one, based on both kojima's past games and some of SIE's big recent games. the fact that this didn't meet those expectations doesn't immediately make it a bad game, and people pointing that out aren't saying it sux either.
it feels more like the people who were expecting a 90+ game are getting defensive and coming up with reasons why it is the way it is, when the simple reason is that some reviewers (who HAVE actually played the game) didn't like it as much as they expected to like the game when they play it for themselves.
some of the made up narratives here are just absurd. the US/EU thing, saying "oh i can't enjoy the game now?" and acting like people will call you out if you say you're liking it, saying giant bomb is just shitting on the game for no reason, etc. those just come off as defensive arguments that try to justify why the outcome is what it is.
at the end of the day, the game is well received, and the reception and the few low scores would in no shape or form change your experience when you play the game.
i really don't see many people saying 83 is a bad score. if we judge a game's quality by only it's score, it's definitely a good one. it can't be denied tho that MOST people were expecting a higher score than the current one, based on both kojima's past games and some of SIE's big recent games. the fact that this didn't meet those expectations doesn't immediately make it a bad game, and people pointing that out aren't saying it sux either.
it feels more like the people who were expecting a 90+ game are getting defensive and coming up with reasons why it is the way it is, when the simple reason is that some reviewers (who HAVE actually played the game) didn't like it as much as they expected to like the game when they play it for themselves.
some of the made up narratives here are just absurd. the US/EU thing, saying "oh i can't enjoy the game now?" and acting like people will call you out if you say you're liking it, saying giant bomb is just shitting on the game for no reason, etc. those just come off as defensive arguments that try to justify why the outcome is what it is.
at the end of the day, the game is well received, and the reception and the few low scores would in no shape or form change your experience when you play the game.
I didnt like it, played for 5-6 hours and never finished it. My only other friend who played it didnt bother finishing it either. I really dont get the hype about the game
I mean, other than the reviewers themselves?
Matt seems to be the only non-reviewer that's posted an opinion so far. It wasn't positive.
that's kind of interesting. what about the story did you find offensive, if you don't mind my asking
I saw the opening 10 minutes and just didn't care for anything I saw at all, the gameplay also turned me off.
And yet a lot of people really like it, takes all sorts.
Why are you ignoring all the others positive impressions so far?
Edit:Ops,maybe you didn't saw,it is in the OT,I forget here is the review.
Quite a few people in the OT who aren't reviewers are posting opinions and they all seem to be highly praising the game.
can you explain the reason why people are put off by it? in spoilers of course.
metacritic has added edge's impressions as a review-in-progress, looks like their final review might be in the next issue
Childbirth is just about one of the most traumatic things someone will go through, and in human history is a process that has killed millions of women, even to this day. Using that tragedy, and then the child produced as a mcguffin, is, even on the face of it, incredibly distasteful. It's probably possible a well told and meaningful story could make it work and justify its use, but Death Stranding is not a well told and meaningful story.
just read the story behind them. i really can't believe sony was ok with that in a game they published.
Despite their low score of DS you can tell GB really want to, in some way, appreciate this game; they have like close to 4 hours of video of this game up now but ultimately, it is a hard sell. Alex mentioning how its a game he wants people to experience but cannot necessarily recommend to people sums it up.
Definitely has taken my interest in the game down a few pegs when it comes out on the PC. Does not seem like something even mods could fix as the issues seem to be with the way the game is designed or too big in scope for mods to overcome.
But the way they shat on the game's narrative though......that's not something mods will be able to fix ever.
Definitely has taken my interest in the game down a few pegs when it comes out on the PC. Does not seem like something even mods could fix as the issues seem to be with the way the game is designed or too big in scope for mods to overcome.
But the way they shat on the game's narrative though......that's not something mods will be able to fix ever.
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my reading of it was veryyy different. it's pretty clearly presented as a terrible thing that is normalized in this world but absolutely shouldn't be. i didn't think they were insensitive with the way they handled it at all
It is just one review, not the end all be all of how you should feel about the game.
Based on other impressions, it seems pretty much impossible to say one way or the other if the story is bad without experiencing it.
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Its existence in the story is inherently insensitive, and the writing isn't good enough to overcome that.
i couldn't disagree more that its existence in the story is inherently insensitive, especially with the way it's framed. how far into the game are you?
Very.
And you disagree, that's fine. Doesn't mean I find it any less offensive.
And you disagree, that's fine. Doesn't mean I find it any less offensive.
Sorry, I didn't know that. I've actually been avoiding the OT for spoilers. :)
Sometimes.
Check the God Of War thead in the vault. That was almost at 2 mil.
alright. i do think the last act and especially the ending puts this into a completely different light, and i don't think the way the ending is framed and what the BB represents in the story would be possible without its literal representation. it was definitely unsettling, and it was meant to be. but it's at least worth considering that the ending could reframe to some extent how you think about this. it's probably not a discussion for the review thread but yeah
plenty of people seem to really like the story, specifically heather and tim from kotaku.
to me the concept just seems beyond distasteful regardless of how it's handled.
Like I said, it's possible an actually well told and worthwhile story that has something to say could pull this off. But DS doesn't meet that standard.
well, i completely disagree. i'll definitely post why it worked so well for me tomorrow when i can go into detail
so you have the stance that things like this should never been in narrative fiction even if its done well? not saying its done well here, but thats a pretty weird limitation to put on art.
sorry it just doesn't seem right to me, and it's not like it was handled well either based on what matt is saying. i do understand that it's my personal opinion tho and others can feel different.
It's just that hoorible subjects are dealt with all the time in media. This seems pretty tame compared to a lot that's out there.
Just because something is not very nice doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be shyed away from.
I'm not commenting on how it's handled in this particular game as haven't seen it yet.
thats fine if it doesn't seem right to you, completely valid way to feel. also tho, plenty of other people have said they do think its handled well, so i'd just say its weird to make a declarative statement about it being bad when its very obvious that people have different takes on this.
The more I hear and see about this game, the more I believe that if the same game was put out by anyone else, it would have been utterly destroyed by the press lol.
"if this thing was different, it'd be different" what an insightful and unique take that this thread desperately needed.
it's also being talked about in the spoiler thread by people who have played the game, and they don't see it as being handled well either. i'll stop as this seems like the wrong thread to talk about it since people may want to remain unspoiled, the spoiler thread is probably more appropriate.
Yeah of course. The game getting to hands of gamers and them spending time with it will be the ultimate litmus test for me but it is not that the story was bad that I took away from their discussion but the way it was presented and told. They did not go into detail to avoid spoilers but it was not very flattering.
Im more of a gameplay guy myself so if the game had that going for it but lousy story/narrative then who cares but with both of those being mixed depending on who you ask, it is not the slamdunk Kojima game anymore, for me at least.