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Kojima, why do we need to see this scene in detail.

If you want this scene included for some reason, just do a shot of her eyes behind the mask and show the progressing distress on her face/eyes.

We don't need to see a character's sexual humiliation... while also seeing her in her underwear.
To make you uncomfortable. That's why. The same reason movies insert rape scenes.
 

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Who is this?
 

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I would reserve judgment but Kojima doesn't really deserve it in this case, that panty shot is straight up annoying, I was really hoping we were past that shit.
 

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See, when I first heard of "being sent naked in the rain" I assumed it has to do with the fact that rain is bad and ages things, and I was like "are people overreacting over something that actually does make sense in universe as some form of punishment or execution." Like actual sense, not "breathe through her skin" sense. But seeing shots like that... yeah, that's just Kojima being Kojima.
 

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Looking at this thread, I can see that I'll be ashamed of my words and deeds again.
 

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Sure, I understand that as always he can't resist his fanservice trashy instincts.
As I said, he always did this and he won't change. Don't like it, don't support it. Simple.

Don't need to see her in her underwear to feel uncomfortable about her being tortured, maimed, and sexually humiliated tbh.
You can say the same about rape scenes in movies. You don't need them to make you uncomfortable, but put it will make you even more uncomfortable and hate even more who did that to the character.
 
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Hentailover

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You can say the same about rape scenes in movies. You don't need to make you uncomfortable, but put it will make you even more uncomfortable and hate even more who did that to the character.

This logic doens't work, if what's making people uncomfortable is not the fact that she is undressed but camera angles. Thus, they are going to hate the person who pointed camera there, not character that undressed her... thus, their ire would still be directed at Kojima. Camera is non diagetic, it's unrelated to Character motivations. And sure, it can convey them... but I'm sure sexy fanservice montage is not motivation of whoever did it.

Wanna make it look uncomfortable. Make it look humiliating and unpleasant. Making it sexy (and that's how the shot we see is coming off to me as far as director's intention) does exact opposite of that.
 

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Making it sexy (and that's how the shot we see is coming off to me as far as director's intention) does exact opposite of that.
I don't find that sexy at all. Also, can't judge camera angles based only on a screenshot since I can't see the full shot.


I'm already ashamed of my words and deeds
Why waste your time here if you don't have anything to contribute with the discussion? Do you not have anything better to do with your life?
 

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Well, it's a screenshot of panties, not the scene itself. Im not sure what to think of it, but knowing kojima i wouldnt think it's anything subtle.
 

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idk I've been reading some spoilers and the idea of a game where I wander around in a cryptic world delivering packages with naked norman reedus appeals to me a lot

also people are saying that the pacing might be off but it was already off in the last two koijma games so i'm the least surprised about that. can't believe he's doing creepy shit about stripping women again tho