199 spider man bundle is one of the best deals this genBecause Xbox actually bothers to do deals unlike sony. Sony is lame.
199 spider man bundle is one of the best deals this genBecause Xbox actually bothers to do deals unlike sony. Sony is lame.
THIS folks is why the gap never grows between it and xbox! They win all year only to lose most of the lead in the holidays. WHAT the fuck are you doing sony? They could be so far ahead had they competed since day one of this gen in NA>
I think money is more important to Sony here than gamers bragging over PS4's sales numbers. Why sell and barely scrape by when you can sell still a lot and make money to boot.THIS folks is why the gap never grows between it and xbox! They win all year only to lose most of the lead in the holidays. WHAT the fuck are you doing sony? They could be so far ahead had they competed since day one of this gen in NA>
Xbox being so close should have never happened. Next gen Sony will regret not taking the chance to pull ahead hard.I think money is more important to Sony here than gamers bragging over PS4's sales numbers. Why sell and barely scrape by when you can sell still a lot and make money to boot.
Its not about bragging, its about preparing for next gen when XBOX will HIT HARD.I think money is more important to Sony here than gamers bragging over PS4's sales numbers. Why sell and barely scrape by when you can sell still a lot and make money to boot.
If I were a betting man and had confidence in my napkin math analysis, Sony's PR probably suggests less than 900K this December.
If US sales for the holiday were ~37% (which is where I'd estimate them to be for 2016 and 2017), that's 2.1M to spread between what was sold in the last 2 weeks of November and 4 weeks of December. Add like ~50K for that final December week.
I'd personally estimate US to be ~35% until we know what it sold in NPD. That would be ~2M (rounded up) and that would point to something in the 700-800K range.
That's probably a safe range for sales because if sales are in the 600K and below range OH BOY
At 91.6 million PS4s sold, they really aren't losing a lot of customers here.Its not about bragging, its about preparing for next gen when XBOX will HIT HARD.
They should be going after everyone and then next gen by having BC you lock in the majority. By letting MS take the lead in the holidays they are losing future customers.
If I were a betting man and had confidence in my napkin math analysis, Sony's PR probably suggests less than 900K this December.
If US sales for the holiday were ~37% (which is where I'd estimate them to be for 2016 and 2017), that's 2.1M to spread between what was sold in the last 2 weeks of November and 4 weeks of December. Add like ~50K for that final December week.
I'd personally estimate US to be ~35% until we know what it sold in NPD. That would be ~2M (rounded up) and that would point to something in the 700-800K range.
That's probably a safe range for sales because if sales are in the 600K and below range OH BOY
I've been saying Sony needs permanent price cut for years now.
I've been saying Sony needs permanent price cut for years now.
For what reason? They sold 18 million consoles in 2018I've been saying Sony needs permanent price cut for years now.
The current price is starting to kill momentum.
If you can't take some mild banter then maybe don't participate. Those replies to you didn't warrant your attitudeJesus fucking Christ can't make a dumb guess without fanbois bitchin.
They no longer need a race to the bottom scenario.I said it a bit ago but I predict a PS4 super slim coming out this Q3 for $249. This model will probably allow them to do more $199 deals.
Not a race to the bottom but it would actually allow the PS4 to get down to $199 eventually, unlike the PS3.They no longer need a race to the bottom scenario.
They are soo ahead and the gen is so close to end they can focus on profit.
The direct competitor is about 40-50% units behind and the "equal" is not even a direct competitor going by the data.
People need to understand how "relatives" work, just cause someone did better than you doesnt mean that you are doing bad (except Xbox in Japan)When PS4 lost in December 2017, all I heard was how it lost momentum.
They no longer need a race to the bottom scenario.
They are soo ahead and the gen is so close to end they can focus on profit.
The direct competitor is about 40-50% units behind and the "equal" is not even a direct competitor going by the data.
But why would you want to go there if you dont need to. At current pace they will surpas PS3 and maybe even wii. So no need to kill your profits margins unless they beliece they can pull a miracle and close in to DS/ PS2 sales (which is more a curse than a miracle)Not a race to the bottom but it would actually allow the PS4 to get down to $199 eventually, unlike the PS3.
But why would you want to go there if you dont need to. At current pace they will surpas PS3 and maybe even wii. So no need to kill your profits margins unless they beliece they can pull a miracle and close in to DS/ PS2 sales (which is more a curse than a miracle)
It depends on how Sony plan for next gen. If they kill the PS4 like they did the PS3 then yeah, no need for $199.But why would you want to go there if you dont need to. At current pace they will surpas PS3 and maybe even wii. So no need to kill your profits margins unless they beliece they can pull a miracle and close in to DS/ PS2 sales (which is more a curse than a miracle)
As I see it it depends for how long they want to keep this gen rolling before jumping to the next, if PS5/X2 do release this year, then i see no reason to try to inflate the sales.They really do need a permanent cut this year. Probably not to $199 but $250 for sure
You are starting to see the system slow in the US. Both November and December are going to be down YoY. That is only going to increase throughout 2019.
Ya this whole win/lose mentality is tiring. Xbox "lost" to PS4 and Swifch in Nov but still moved 1.3mil units. PS4 can "lose" this month and still shift 1mil units at good profit margins. People need to stop focusing on winning and losing based on the place in the 3 console ranking that month lolPeople need to understand how "relatives" work, just cause someone did better than you doesnt mean that you are doing bad (except Xbox in Japan)
So does Sony's 5.6 million worldwide change any predictions? Obviously will need to do a lot of maths to try and figure it all out.
I think that's from the 19th of Nov to the 31st of December.
[NSW] Wins
[PS4] Wins
[XB1] Wins
Just getting a head start on the sarcastic comments to the release.
But I really thought this was the year of everybody winning. :(
[NSW] Wins
[PS4] Wins
[XB1] Wins
Just getting a head start on the sarcastic comments to the release.
Sony don't have the same financial power as MS.
Even a MS that has mostly been indifferent towards gaming can still provide the resources to offer these kind of deals without fear of consequences.
Sony have to balance the books.
This is a company that lost 5 billion with PS3 but right now there is no need for them to do that .
If MS was selling at Sony pace they would be doing less deal also .
MS so rich that they could sell XB at $99 and be okay but they don't since every company has to balance the books as you say .
He means the sarcastic comments that mock the concept of no console being in last place and all of them selling well regardless of placement.But I really thought this was the year of everybody winning. :(
To MS, hardware is just a means to an end. To get people into thier ecosystem.
So even if MS were selling at Sonys pace, they'd still be doing these deals because the money generated from hardware means little to them
As i said if that was the case they could sell there system for $99 dollars they can afford it .
They lost billions when they enter the market .
The fact is both of these company has to balance the books right now Sony has more options since the selling more.
Do you really think they be doing these deals all this gen if there were selling at Sony pace ?
If that's the case, then Sony will have a locked in audience of up to over 100 million, while Microsoft's maybe won't be even half of that.Its not about bragging, its about preparing for next gen when XBOX will HIT HARD.
They should be going after everyone and then next gen by having BC you lock in the majority. By letting MS take the lead in the holidays they are losing future NA customers. Having control of NA marketshare is very important.