[NSW] Wins
[PS4] Wins
[XB1] Wins
Just getting a head start on the sarcastic comments to the release.
[NSW] Wins
[PS4] Wins
[XB1] Wins
Just getting a head start on the sarcastic comments to the release.
Yes I do as I stated before.
Selling at $99 is ridiculous, nothing to be gained.
Doing lots of great bundles and discounts with free games is a great move and one that is designed to get more people into services like XGP.
MS can do this and would regardless of the amount of hardware they were shifting.
You're too hardware focussed,
I am not hardware focus .
Of course there something to be gain selling at $99 more sales and getting people into services ( once they have the stock)
Getting people into there services is why they doing deals in the first place.
Just like how Sony selling at $199 would have given them more sales last year dec( if they had the stock )
Also i think you are naive if you think MS would done so many deals over the years if they were selling like Sony .
No company give up extra revenue \ profit if they don't have to .
It really is
2019 is the year we enter "doomed" land for PS4 and Xbox One. We'll probably be starting to see consoles are dying and streaming is the future articles in a few months
MS don't mind giving up an extra bit of profit from hardware if it means they will generate substantial more from the one user via XGP and in game monetisation.
Edit.
I think we will leave it. I don't think you understand revenue stream and such
Wait..
You mean there is more than that 1 that mentioned my predictions?
Yeah I'm gonna have to call in that favor to the bunker when the bombs start dropping
I understand all of that .
What i don't understand is you saying MS has so much financial power that they can do deals this dec but Sony could not .( they did in other parts of the world)
Sony have been doing deals this whole gen but they did not in the USA year last Dec and your reason was because they not as rich as MS .
When the simple reason is they hit there target so they was no reason to do deals in the USA market .
I'm from Spain and I saw more than one important web (such as Vandal.net) posting a piece of news about your prediction as an npd leak. The source they put is another web that mentions you. So yeah, you're becoming important as a source of leaks hahaha
I really wish Nintendo (I'd say Microsoft too but that's wishful thinking) would release holidays PR too.
While I feel the same, aren't they supposed to have the quarterly financials around the end of this month? If so, just a little longer and we will have much, much more than just a holidays PR.I really wish Nintendo (I'd say Microsoft too but that's wishful thinking) would release holidays PR too.
So Fortnite was a fad?Especially due to nothing on the horizon for 2019 with the console moving potential Fortnite had in the first half of the year in 2018
Last year Nintendo did so maybe we will get one in the next days.
Patience is for losers!While I feel the same, aren't they supposed to have the quarterly financials around the end of this month? If so, just a little longer and we will have much, much more than just a holidays PR.
No, not at all. It's still the biggest game of the moment. Every game peaks at some point, and Fortnite did in (first half of) 2018. It's still an absolutely massive game, but the rage where it pushed its popularity and got people to buy systems for it is presumably behind us. That doesn't make it a fad at all. It'd be a fad if it now crippled and rotted in a corner, but it's not: it's no. 1 on Twitch as we (I) speak, for example.
Lol. Well IF there is a Direct this Thursday, they may be holding out with the Holidays PR to come out in conjunction with that.
If the PS4 keeps selling phenomenally, they probably have no reason to rush PS5 on the market. The more they delay it, the bigger the leap.I have a question. See how the PS4 is still doing phenomenal, would Sony literally have to cut back on the amount of PS4'S they make and sell to give the PS5 a fighting chance our the gate?
Like I assume if the PS4 were still doing phenomenonally, that would affect the PS5's sales?
The reason Sony was less aggressive (with deals) than MS this generation was that they could do so and still have the upper hand.PlayStation is Sonys main driver of revenue and profit across the board, and we are at the stage now where a first party console holder makes the most in terms of the said revenue and profit.
Sony can't and won't match the kind of deals MS can do, as PS is thier main revenue driver.
Pretty sure Sony never went as crazy as Xbox this generation. 2014 especially MS went nuts
I mean... barely? Gaming is Sony's biggest business sector, but it's still only like 20% of their overall business in terms of revenue. The difference is size between Microsoft as a corporation and Sony isn't so big that one can afford to discount hardware and the other can't. They're both massive multi-national conglomerates making $80b+ per year. As the market leader, Sony just has less incentive and less interest in taking any loss on hardware.PlayStation is Sonys main driver of revenue and profit across the board, and we are at the stage now where a first party console holder makes the most in terms of the said revenue and profit.
Sony can't and won't match the kind of deals MS can do, as PS is thier main revenue driver.
Pretty sure Sony never went as crazy as Xbox this generation. 2014 especially MS went nuts
That'd piss off a lot of launch devs.
I mean... barely? Gaming is Sony's biggest business sector, but it's still only like 20% of their overall business in terms of revenue. The difference is size between Microsoft as a corporation and Sony isn't so big that one can afford to discount hardware and the other can't. They're both massive multi-national conglomerates making $80b+ per year. As the market leader, Sony just has less incentive and less interest in taking any loss on hardware.
If the PS4 keeps selling phenomenally, they probably have no reason to rush PS5 on the market. The more they delay it, the bigger the leap.
Would it, they will have bigger sales on the current consoles. Also publishers will be informed well before hand on Sony's plans. On the other hand, there could be market for both, a PS5 at 499 won't directly compete with PS4 at 200-300. Obviously many people will still opt for the cheaper PS4 but many will start investing on PS5 and those are usually the bigger spenders that buy more software.
I really wish Nintendo (I'd say Microsoft too but that's wishful thinking) would release holidays PR too.
Moving a platform launch in any sense (early release or late delay) messes with a TON of development schedules, a lot of marketing processes, and can effect a company's ability to maintain income if they expected a game to launch on a specific time. Unless all these new games are crossgen releases, they're not gonna have sufficient time to downport to profit off the suddenly longer PS4 lifespan.Would it, they will have bigger sales on the current consoles. Also publishers will be informed well before hand on Sony's plans. On the other hand, there could be market for both, a PS5 at 499 won't directly compete with PS4 at 200-300. Obviously many people will still opt for the cheaper PS4 but many will start investing on PS5 and those are usually the bigger spenders that buy more software.
They could be preparing in a more forward thinking way.Its not about bragging, its about preparing for next gen when XBOX will HIT HARD.
They should be going after everyone and then next gen by having BC you lock in the majority. By letting MS take the lead in the holidays they are losing future NA customers. Having control of NA marketshare is very important.
im sure they just wait the month till the quarterly IR.
ultimately what drives hardware sales is software (either tangible or long term promises). so for PS4 to cannibalize PS5 it has to be a plethora of factors from, non exclusive on release + a better line up on PS4 on the near future of PS5 release.I have a question. See how the PS4 is still doing phenomenal, would Sony literally have to cut back on the amount of PS4'S they make and sell to give the PS5 a fighting chance our the gate?
Like I assume if the PS4 were still doing phenomenonally, that would affect the PS5's sales?
I mean... barely? Gaming is Sony's biggest business sector, but it's still only like 20% of their overall business in terms of revenue. The difference is size between Microsoft as a corporation and Sony isn't so big that one can afford to discount hardware and the other can't. They're both massive multi-national conglomerates making $80b+ per year. As the market leader, Sony just has less incentive and less interest in taking any loss on hardware.
The huge difference is net income. MS is much more profitable than Sony, so you can't even start to compare the two companies.
But I agree that Sony doesn't need to be agressive this gen, their product has naturally more appeal. When the company nedeed to be agressive with the PS3, it was.
The effect PS4 will have on PS5 is totally dependent on the software that launches along side PS5 and the price point. Right now PS4 is relatively still priced in the mid-range ($250-350), so the launch price of PS5 will influence things more than PS4 performance.I have a question. See how the PS4 is still doing phenomenal, would Sony literally have to cut back on the amount of PS4'S they make and sell to give the PS5 a fighting chance our the gate?
Like I assume if the PS4 were still doing phenomenonally, that would affect the PS5's sales?
as one of those more educated people i must say that it's a great honor to be part of a thread that plays an important part for game industry execs in their procrastination strategies and helps them to prolong their potty breaks.I can tell you people from Sony, MS, Nintendo, GameStop, and other major retailers read the NPD threads every month. That is 100% true
But nah these threads have no bearing on their actual business plans other than they like to read some of the more educated peoples posts
WUT?Hmm, I think this could also be funny to do for company's quaterly report about how many units they sold in the last quater worldwide :D .
That would certainly be more challenging and have more room for me to be outlandishly wrong with my predictions!Hmm, I think this could also be funny to do for company's quaterly report about how many units they sold in the last quater worldwide :D .