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Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Yes in terms of what they take to the convention. In terms of media narrative it's a cluster fuck at this point.
Does this apply to Era, because if so, please America, vote for Bernie please please
Especially with Pete Buttigieg's financial ties to Shadow (never mind that so many other notable Democrats have ties to Shadow as well), and him making the dumbass decision to publicly declare victory before any results were in. It doesn't matter that this was clearly just incompetence all around. It's bad optics for Pete, and I suspect it will hurt him in the long run.
That's what i was thinking as well, if SDEs don't give you extra delegates, and you lose the popular vote on both counts, i don't know why they would say he won.
Pete has 95% chance to get the most SDEs.
That doesn't mean he'll necessarily get more pledged delegates, which is the thing that makes you the nominee.
Biden coming in 4th and Pete getting all the media attention is a big win for Bernie.
Biden's going to be running on fumes going into Super Tuesday.
Biden's going to be running on fumes going into Super Tuesday.
My understanding the pledged delegates aren't final / at least according to NYT are projected to be 14-12 Buttigieg over Sanders after everything is counted.
I don't know if that is a correct read though, cause caucuses are dumb and I still don't totally understand them.
I don't know if that is a correct read though, cause caucuses are dumb and I still don't totally understand them.
Isn't Mayor Pete now favoured to have more delegates than Bernie?
Look, when I say "I'm experienced in Excel" it really means I know how to insert chart and manipulate data until I get what I want.
Yeah , people are really sleeping on the appeal of someone like Pete. Obviously doesn't appeal to exteremly online people like us, but there are a lot of "regular" folks who are swooned by the ivy grad, gay , veteran mayor
Yeah. It's actually really convenient that Patrick and Steyer fields are in the data. You can literally visually scan the records by scrolling down and see the transcription errors wherever Patrick's numbers went above 0.
Looks like someone at IDP finally did exactly that, the obvious transcription errors are gone now.
I don't really think it matters at this point who actually won. Bernie performed about as expected, Pete over-performed and Biden drastically underperformed. Bernie should hold steady, Pete should gain some momentum and Biden is going to fall.
Where is the 90% figure the NYT is using coming from? IDP are attempting to show 86%. Or is that just the precincts?
The SDEs are the official count. Just accept Mayo won, lol. He's not going to get anything from it anyway.
Nobody wants to further compound this cluster fuck without being 1000% sure.
But they're still making mistakes! Hahaha.
Sanders is almost assuredly winning the popular vote, though. If you're going by delegates, Buttigieg won't get anymore than 1 or 2 more delegates.
Also, Warren lost too (by a much larger margin), so what does that mean for her?
unfortunately someone provided evidence that the corruptdnc is rigging it against warren
So Pete is nothing but an unknown young gay guy? Is that what you're saying? Is that what you're reducing him to?
He (probably) got (barely) beat by someone who was running for president of Iowa. Pete was relying on Iowa to give him steam and now he has to share the laurels with Sanders and watch as his support putters out as they get into states with more minority presence.
Well, CIA operative and corporate price-fixer are other terms that apply to him.
The media doesn't want to I mean.
Nobody really trusts what's coming out of the IDP right now.
Don't underestimate the power of billions of dollars at your disposal. It's absolutely a possibility that Bloomberg wins the nomination. It's very difficult to see him beat Trump. So far his argument is "I'm even richer", which can't be a very effective message.
so, the argument for bloomberg is essentially this:
- joe biden's doing that joe biden thing where he seems like a good candidate and then it turns out he's kinda just really bad at running for president
- all those voters and donors need somewhere to go
- all those voters and donors are generally moderate/centrist
- bloomberg is a very attractive candidate to moderates, in that he
loves racist policingis obviously friendly to the wealthy but has generally ok positions on most social issues - basically, he's one of the two common guesses (the other being buttigieg) about who takes biden's spot as "the moderate" if biden pulls a biden. and bloomberg just has a massive amount of money and hasn't staked his entire campaign on becoming lord of the corn (which may have worked, but also means that buttigieg has some serious structural deficiencies elsewhere)
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