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Who's Going to Win South Carolina?

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 585 39.2%
  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 853 57.2%
  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 24 1.6%
  • Pete Buttigieg

    Votes: 7 0.5%
  • THE KLOBBERER

    Votes: 16 1.1%
  • Tom Steyer

    Votes: 6 0.4%

  • Total voters
    1,491
  • Poll closed .
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Deleted member 176

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People in here seem to be pretty optimistic, but Bernie seems to be having a slightly worse showing than expected?
bernie is looking to win the state, his biggest competitors for the primary are receiving 0 delegates, and he is doing extremely well in areas of NH full of moderate/anti-Trump republicans. good news for the primary and the general.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So what happens when Biden and/or Klob drop out? I guess most of the primaries will be over but without moderates splitting, this could have been Bernie in third.
If Biden dropped out I imagine that would mean a boost to butti, at which point bernie might need a powerup from a warren dropout to catch up
Think of it like power rangers where multiple dinosaurs need to combine in order to defeat the overinflated monster
As we know from MSNBC, the electoral system factually works exactly like power rangers and any second now we are in danger of amy and butti literally combining into one larger candidate called the Klobutti who will menace Angel Grove unless the rangers can summon the power sword
 

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Nov 7, 2017
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As the campaigns drop out one by one the moderate vote will coalesce around the ones who remain and this is Bernie"s real test.
Yeah the issue is who's it gonna be? Pete has horrible numbers with black people, Biden is flopping like crazy and Bloomberg isn't even on the ballot for now.
 
Dec 31, 2017
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Steyer needs to stay in as the hype man.

Bernie will really be tested going forward. the moderate lane is very split right now. volatile times ahead.
 

jph139

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People in here seem to be pretty optimistic, but Bernie seems to be having a slightly worse showing than expected?

Nah, he's pretty much on point. Polling aggregates had him in the 25-30% range, and he's squarely in the middle there. He's not overperforming, but he's doing as expected, and it doesn't look like Buttigieg or Klobuchar are going to overtake him, so it's mostly good news for him.

EDIT: In fact 538 just put up their comparison, Klobuchar is the only one who was really far from expected.

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Kthulhu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nah, that's a tired argument. "Socialist" resonates a lot more as something scary for conservative voters.

And Pete? I don't know about electability but Pete would get absolutely destroyed by Trump. He couldn't even answer the one tough question he got in the last debate without stammering. And Bloomberg? I think he has zero electability, money or not.

Conservative voters do not vote Democrat so their opinion of a socialist label is meaningless IMO.

I think you underestimate the American public's fetish for young people that defend the status quo. I also think you underestimate the power a billionaire that owns a media company can do to influence the average old person.
 

msdstc

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Nov 6, 2017
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Steyer needs to stay in as the hype man.

Bernie will really be tested going forward. the moderate lane is very split right now. volatile times ahead.

I think this is pretty ideal for Bernie despite being a pessimist. Pete is doing well here and sinking biden, but he doesn't poll well in the upcoming states. This is a bad look for biden and his voters will go elsewhere. That being said, one big showing for Biden and he's right back in it.
 

uncelestial

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Oct 25, 2017
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Since neither of those things are at all accurate representations of her positions, I'm going to go with her positions not being the issue.
You don't get to just "go with" some random thing. She doesn't want to abolish ICE:



And she doesn't support Medicare for All:


Both positions are walkbacks. We're done here.
 

CHC

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Oct 27, 2017
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why are people here glad Steyer is staying in the race? I know very little about him or his candidacy, so no motive to my question other than curiosity
 

Addie

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Yeah the stated policy divides the role of Ice to 3 different agencies. The task will still be followed but ICE will be disbanded.
He's calling for a reversion to pre-Homeland Security Act days.

ICE was created with the Act, and the Department of Homeland Security, and swallowed up INS, along with investigative arms of other agencies. All of this makes perfect sense, which is why "Abolish ICE" was always a shorthand for actually devolving some of the meaningful elements of the Homeland Security apparatus back into other agencies.

There's no reason to ding Bernie on this, because we want Homeland Security Investigations (aligned under ICE) to continue to investigate human trafficking and support Joint Terrorism Task Forces, and we want other elements like animal and plant health inspectors to continue to operate.
 

CHC

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Oct 27, 2017
10,246
cool and progressive billionaire guy. he's alright
He's dividing the moderate vote in South Carolina.
He eats bidens cake in SC = better for bernie.

Also he's a great hype man. His policies are also pretty progressive. He had a good debate in NH.
He will eat into Bidens viting block in SC
He's spending a bunch to woo black voters in SC, which might hurt Biden.

OK thanks guys
 

discotheque

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Dec 23, 2019
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Warren was my number one choice last year and seemed like a leaner, meaner Bernie for a good couple of months. But she needs to go away now.
 
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