Democratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Yep. The Democratic Establishment is giving Trump ammo, and it’s going to hit them hard in the General.
Seems like Calvinball here.
Florida is also heavily Latino and has an atypical economy (tourism) for a Southern State.
Florida, besides the Panhandle, also has almost nothing in common with what people think of when they think of the "South."
I think then you might not be using a very common definition.
Thank you. It amazes me at the amount of people i n this thread and others who are so misinformed and talking about Warren at risk to lose her senate seat. She's not up for re-election until 2024, Ed Markey is up for re-election this year, not Warren.
Also LOL at the constant posts of people trying to bully supporters into voting for their preferred candidate. It's the primary, not the general election, the entire point of the primary is to vote for the candidate you feel would make the best president. It doesn't matter what the current chances of a candidate are it doesn't change the fact that I, and others feel Warren would make the best President out of the group of candidates. If Warren ends up dropping out of the race I'll happy vote for Sanders in the general as he's my #2 but until then I'm going to support who I feel would make the best president.
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I also feel the extreme worry of Sanders losing SC causing him to do poor/lose to Biden after ST is vastly unwarranted as well.
As a non- American it seems crazy to me to consider neither Texas or Florida southern states.
Mayhaps. But considering Florida was purple/blue a lot in the past.....
this thread is down right hostile to anyone who isn't voting Sanders in the primary, for sure.
I voted for Warren, and I don't feel safe here.
I will 10000% be voting for Bernie with a smile if he wins the primary, and he's not even my #2. Still don't feel safe :).
The purity tests are damaging right now.
We need to win the war in November, then we can decide our soul after is my opinion.
I have my strongly held convictions, but most of these candidates are pretty safe for the dismantling of Trump's infections that we need Day 1, at the end of the day.
Bernie 2016 has down an amazing job taking over the platform conversation, he's going to win whoever ends up winning in 2020.
Pretty much all Southern States were reliably blue before the Southern Strategy
It's more accurate to say they were reliably Blue before the Civil Rights Act. The Southern Strategy was a reaction to the Civil Rights Act. No Democrat has won a majority of white voters in a General Election since the passing of the Civil Rights Act.
It sucks that you feel that way. I think the 4D chess stuff is stupid in the primary. Vote for who you like. That said, if you like Bloomburg, it may be best to keep that to yourself.
TBF the Longhorns and Aggies came close to joining the SEC a few years back :p
Yeah before that it was called the Solid South. But that’s true of Texas as well, even though LBJ was a Texan.
Don’t see how that makes Texas not a southern state.
My mom grew up in Oklahoma and Texas and she would hate when I called them southern states lol. A lot of people really see "The South" as only the southeast.
Which I guess makes sense, I don't think anyone would count New Mexico and Arizona as "The South" but Texas is hard to categorize
Which I guess makes sense, I don't think anyone would count New Mexico and Arizona as "The South" but Texas is hard to categorize
Texas is a Southern State as far as I'm concerned. Florida is not so clear cut, given that outside of the panhandle it's culturally way different from the neighboring states. In my mind the idea of "The South" refers to the Bible Belt.
It's used to refer to basically any state that joined the Confederacy. Hence why Virginia is often referred to as "The South" but West Virginia is not.
the fact that y"all are having the "is Texas part of the south" conversation shows how desperate we are for the SC primary to happen
not looking forward to the biden strikes back narrative but...buttigieg getting ethered in south carolina is gonna be a good consolation prize
I saw quite a few in rural parts of CT. Racists are everywhere.
Really just wanna fast forward five days so we know where we're actually at, lol.
Both were members of the Confederacy. Florida was the 3rd state to join and Texas was the 2nd to last state to be readmitted too.
When I think of "The South", I don't think of Florida or Texas as being in "The South". Southern part of the US, sure, but not "The South"
For me, "The South" is the Carolinas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Louisiana.
Virginia I only exclude because when I think of Virginia, I'm only thinking about Northern Virginia around DC, and my brain shuts out the rest of the state except Charlottesville.
Maybe that's silly.
For me, "The South" is the Carolinas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Louisiana.
Virginia I only exclude because when I think of Virginia, I'm only thinking about Northern Virginia around DC, and my brain shuts out the rest of the state except Charlottesville.
Maybe that's silly.
Friendly reminder that Obama has still never come out against that ad Bloomberg runs that heavily implies an endorsement.
No
I don't trust you Ohio. You lied to me once already.
But maybe they can change
We need a Florida DFP poll. The best I can hope for is a second place showing for Bernie which shouldn't be impossible.
Florida's not until the 17th, hopefully some actual good pollsters start doing polls after ST.
Why is DFP so heavily hyped up here? Isn't it just another pollster?
Like the fact that they have to make statements regarding when planned poll results are going up must mean they are a bigger deal for some reason.
Like the fact that they have to make statements regarding when planned poll results are going up must mean they are a bigger deal for some reason.
They've been the most accurate pollster of the primary so far.
It was close on Iowa and Nevada I think. It’s ironic as it was suuuuuuuper off on 2016.
" There is a large age divide found among the respondents. Sanders leads with voters under 50 with 41% support. Following him among that group is Biden with 25%, Buttigieg with 11% and Steyer with 10%. Conversely, among voters 50 and older, Biden has majority support at 54%. Following him among those voters is Sanders with 12%, and Steyer and Buttigieg with 11%. "
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