Don't know the current status of those games, but Bethesda have patched out Denuvo in the past, no? So it's probably just a matter of time until it happens with the recent Arkane games.
While it's better than always-online single player games, it does still need periodic reactivation.
It looks more like someone at id Software really pushed for its removal from DOOM, as none of the other Bethesda-published games have removed it.
You know, i always disagree with this statement.
Yeah, they removed Denuvo from DOOM a few months after its release. But Dishonored 2 released more than 1 year ago, so sadly I don't think it'll happen again.
I was hoping it'd be company policy going forward because I'd really like to buy those games... But I'm not going to until I'm not at the mercy of a company that abandoned their last DRM mechanism after only five years, leaving paying customers at the mercy of publishers and studios (some of which didn't even exist anymore) or expected paying customers to crack the games they legitimately owned. I'm supposed to be okay with these people basically holding the keys to AAA gaming on PC?
Why is that positive? How is being able to play an offline game, something that is taken for granted for decades, something to praise with Denuvo? That's like praising a plane for being able to takeoff.
That's never been true.
At least you could crack those games to you know play the thing you paid for. Current version Denuvo is uncracked so if this happened to AC:O people would be fucked.
Wasn't it that they added the online checks after the first few workarounds appeared, where they didn't remove Denuvo, but managed to foil the Steam DRM that those game's shipped with, without changing the .exe? Maybe I'm misremembering. The first time I heard of Denuvo doing this, it seemed to be quite odd, since it runs counter to the idea of just protecting the .exe, like a clumsy bandaid for an inherent issue in their method.
That is very true, I bought AC:O on consoles because I heard it came with Denuvo, a shame because it looks amazing on PC.
Oh I know, the only game I tried to get on the Windows Store was KI. Never again.
As I said, there's a lot of deliberate misinformation being spread by astroturfers. Maybe just as much as the one the "alarmists" are mocked for.
It's not even working anymore, to think that you have to download a crack when legitimately owning the game, to play it with better performance or in this recent case at all is really upsetting.
Steam has redundancy in place (or so they've claimed for about ten years now) for their service so at least that's covered. If that turns out to be a lie (I actually believe them), it's easily cracked anyways. If Denuvo had measures in place, I'm sure they'd be shouting it from the rooftops.
According to leaks, 100,000EUR for AAA/50,000EUR for AA/10,000EUR for indie and a sales-based model which requires a 2500EUR setup fee and a 0.15EUR per unit fee.
I think it's a one time fee and it depends on the kind of game that is "protected" its rather cheap from what I've heard, that's the reason it's implemented so often.
Yes but that's not how it works sadly. Most publishers know fully well that the drm will be cracked within a few weeks tops but it turns out, at least according to their statistics, that piracy hurts new games the most the first few weeks after their release. And if you look at any sales reports it gets quite clear that most of the units of a game are sold in the first few weeks and then they often drop out of the top 10 until their price gets lowered by 50% or more.
And SecuRom, don't forget that.
As a counterpoint, the elephant in the room anytime this topic is discussed is that "uncrackable games" protected for months never seem to emerge as outliers in sales. Hell, sometimes the opposite is true and they even underperform compared to their prequels or other titles in the same genre/budget range.
This.
Agreed. I'm glad that most devs/companies will usually remove Denovo down the line. Those that don't just don't give a crap about their audience.
Denuvo also needs to authenticate the game each time its executable is modified or first time the game is installed (or major hardware changes), so this can also happen with updates (if the executable is modified which isn't always the case). Otherwise it doesn't need Internet access.
Your definition of most seems to be different from the norm.
I dunno about latest version being so easy. Ac origins two months later and still no crack.
I remember that, but didn't Sonic 1's inclusion commence on Mania's originally intended date (August 15, and then Mania was downloadable on August 29)? Forgive me if I'm wrong but I remember that being an additional factor fucking with the refund request system for some.
The company that distributes Denuvo are the same people who made SecuROM so there's gonna be issues for sure.
