Also worth mentioning that the whisper ornaments paid for Zero Hour, which is rad to hear how mtx can and does impact good content.
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Destiny 2 Director's Cut (State of the Game) Part 1
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That was a nice thing to hear. Even though they nerfed it it's still nice to hear about a direct result of some microtransactions in effect.
actually it worked to get me cause i bought a thunderlord ornament with silver, knowing that it would not ever be available for BD. i didn't like the whisper ornaments anyway so i wouldn't have bought them regardless.
Nerf, nerf nerf nerf. Its all the same. At some point you take all the fun out of everything. I'm never coming back to this game. Ill always hold onto the great times I had with the first.
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Ok and it makes your point invalid. Everything is earnable through gameplay; you're just lazy.
So you didn't read? Or you did and think you're a better dev? Pls don't come back lol.
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Read my previous replies. I'm putting in way too much effort responding to you.
They've always been much better about talking about what they want to do than delivering. Maybe that will change now. Hopes set low.
Wait so it's not surprising that they're doing a PR spin a month-and-a-half before a big expansion launch and basically a whole new relaunch of the game. They've been doing this every year, they've done this all before it's just a different person saying at this time. Please understand.....
Yes they've made sizable improvements to the game and it is very good right now but they have to keep continuing.
Yes they've made sizable improvements to the game and it is very good right now but they have to keep continuing.
The best thing about this Activision split seems to be Bungie's ability to reveal more behind the scenes glimpses at their design process. I love it!
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They've written a 20 page state of the game before? Link me!
I know this article is about Destiny 2's past and upcoming release but let me be sure to tell everyone I refunded Destiny 2 back in 2017 after only playing for a few hours. Just thought I'd get it off my chest for reasons.
How is it with every Destiny thread/major Destiny news we get people acting like they just discovered this GaaS game has microtransactions in it?
It's the usual destiny hate as usual, nothing surprising here. Now we're hating on the developers for sharing their thoughts and experiences with us? I understand that destiny has had it's own large share of issues buy come the fuck on.
At least we're getting more insite into why things are the way they are and what they plan on at least attempting to do with it. Why just shit on these people for trying their best to communicate and give us some feedback?
Sounds like too many mistakes with D2 at this point for the game to really feel any sense of balance. You can't really nerf warlocks well, as pretty much all of year 2 was balanced around it, quite literally. Hell, the well makes year 1 content a joke. Unless year 3 content is designed to be a lot more mobile, it's going to be the same.
EDIT: I like the news about scouts being buffed. I was big into scouts in year one.
EDIT: I like the news about scouts being buffed. I was big into scouts in year one.
Nail on the head my friend. "more eververse in shadowkeep so I'm done with the game forever". As if this isn't well known at this point. They're an independent studio now, even if this kind of stuff wasn't laid out for us in text it should be expected, shit costs money to make.
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It's not fun and too easy to one phase every raid boss which is meant to be the hardest PVE activity. Game is way too easy. Stuff can be nerfed, and game can still be fun.
Just last night, group and I ran Scourge of the Past boss x3 in 45 min casually. Game needs severe balancing and nerfs across the board
Exactly, as much as I love my well of radiance I can accept that it's an end all be all solution for almost any problem, which isn't a good thing. I want to be challenged, not shackeled to a certain subclass because it's one of the only viable options for boss encounters.
Totally agree with this sentiment. I had good times with the game but I can't go back. Their answer to everything is to nerf it in to the ground. Ikelos shotgun nerf was so unnecessary.
In relation to the document, good on them for being transparent and open with the fanbase.
Ah yes, because breaking every PVE endgame activity with a singular gun / meta resulting in making it laughably super easy is "fun".
Loooooooool, oof
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On topic I'm glad to see they recognize that Season of the Drifter was too focused and didn't add much to the game in terms of new/enjoyable content.
As for the nerfs, I'm fine with them. I actually agree with the slayer rage vid linked in wall of text provided by luke. It's getting to the point to where we are so powerful that the only option for bungie is to provide more ridiculous, tiresome, mechanic heavy driven content to be the norm. Not only that, while do a masochistic version of double dare, they are throwing 100's of thrall at you that can 2 shot you,,for starters! Not to mention, the crazy amount of 1 shot enemies that are surrounding you. Oh, but I haven't gotten to the yellow bars, and the challenging enemies! And we are STILL cake walking through this shit.
Through all of that, we expect more power, and better yet, better and more powerful exotic and legendary weapons and armor next season...just for them to up the mechanic and mob count even more. It'll get to the point where we will have to manage 6 wipe mechanics simultaneously just to challenge us, because the enemies, despite facing 10,000 on the screen at once, aren't a threat...just a nuisance to keep up from wiping from damned wiping mechanics.
Kind of a rant, but yea, I'm all for nerfs if they make sense.
Through all of that, we expect more power, and better yet, better and more powerful exotic and legendary weapons and armor next season...just for them to up the mechanic and mob count even more. It'll get to the point where we will have to manage 6 wipe mechanics simultaneously just to challenge us, because the enemies, despite facing 10,000 on the screen at once, aren't a threat...just a nuisance to keep up from wiping from damned wiping mechanics.
Kind of a rant, but yea, I'm all for nerfs if they make sense.
Nice inside information on how they approached the annual pass content and their acknowledgement of some mistakes, but I'm ultimately looking forward to the PVP side of things.
Also, I'm just going to throw this out there. If you haven't played D2 since Y1, no one gives a shit about your opinion at this point. It's outdated. It's irrelevant. Everything you think is irrelevant. Just wanted to say that because someone ought to help you out there.
Also, I'm just going to throw this out there. If you haven't played D2 since Y1, no one gives a shit about your opinion at this point. It's outdated. It's irrelevant. Everything you think is irrelevant. Just wanted to say that because someone ought to help you out there.
The flipside of this, and what concerns me with the obvious impending nerfs to Well is that content shouldnt be as challenging the 50th or 100th time we do it as it is the first, as that is tedious. (Reckoning is a good example of this)
They really need to do a better job of having our power level actually mean something as opposed to just being an arbitrary gate for new stuff. Let us out-level stuff and stomp it, that's enjoyable in a game where you're grinding shit out ad nauseam
I thought it was disjointed in some ways or I totally missed his point. Like, I agree with him that the menagerie is awesome and fun! I'm glad they agree too, but then he vaguely made a point that they aren't realizing the popularity of these activities until the content is released... So I'm guessing that means we won't be getting a new version right away? Kinda shitty since many people have been asking for a matchmaking activity like that since D1.
Yeah it definitely came across that way. It definitely sounded like "we are so used to getting it wrong we're not prepared to embrace it when we get it right" which makes me think they should work on trying to not get it wrong in the first place.
That's exactly the action vs RPG element he discussed and I came away from the article with no clear understanding where they stand on the issue. It sounds like you agree with me that it should more heavily weight towards the RPG element than it does right now. However, I can see the other perspective too. Would be nice to know where they stand lol
I think you kind of misjudged what he was saying.
He was saying the content pipeline works as such that they are working on the next thing already when they release the current thing. So they can't take their learnings and put them immediately forward because of that cycle. And no matter how much you test something internally, you can never be sure about what the feedback will be when you put it out to the wider community.
A wild amount of salt in this thread given the topic. The state of the game may not be everything everyone wants at once, but you can tell they're putting their backs into it and listening to feedback. This level of transparency is pretty rare in the gaming industry.
Great article and looking forward to the future of the game!
Great article and looking forward to the future of the game!
If someone didn't know any better (or if they did, really), they'd think you're the one getting agitated when people post bad things about one of your favorite games, lol. All that poster said was that he doesn't wanna play the game unless there's nothing else.
If they're going to nerf well then they should buff dawnblade. It doesnt last enough time.
Same with the void warp super.
Same with the void warp super.
Totally fair and it makes sense. Looking forward to reading the next two when they drop.
They way people are allowed to blatantly troll and shitpost in Destiny threads is something special.
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All that poster said was he doesn't want to play the game unless they remove powerful gear or eververse... which is extremely weird to say cause neither makes sense to remove.
Also agitated? Not really. It honestly deserved only one response.. but i fell for the bait and replied multiple times... kind of like when you made that post about d1 cosmetics transferring to d2
Daybreak is like one of the longest lasting supers in the game, especially in PVE. Even after they balanced it a bit to give it diminishing returns because it was lasting too long. You ain't gonna be getting a buff.
Nova warp is also in a perfectly fine area. Useless in PVE, but that pertains to a greater issue between Bungo's lack of the ability to balance PVE and PVP differently. But I don't know the ins and outs of what that entails for the dev in order to do it proper.
Thank you so much, very insightful and helps me understand the game more and is 100% relevant to any topic regarding Destiny.
(Yes I know you're joking)
