Destiny 2 had the largest PC launch (by units) in Activision's history (Activision specifically)

Nirolak · Feb 8, 2018

To be clear, this one in particular refers to Activision, not Blizzard, so the comparison would be to games like Call of Duty, not Overwatch.

Activision Blizzard said:
Activision and Bungie's Destiny 2 was the second-highest-grossing console game in North America for the year1, had the largest PC launch in Activision history based on units, and had a higher attach rate on its first expansion than Destiny 1.

Source: http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=1056935

DoublePayje · Feb 8, 2018

A: Old 2017 news: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20171220005383/en/ and on the forum https://www.resetera.com/threads/ca...selling-console-games-in-north-america.11947/

B: Activision never had a relevant PC launch, including CoD. So no big suprise there.

Jaded Alyx · Feb 8, 2018

Not surprising.

Like...at all.

DanteMenethil · Feb 8, 2018

Everyone on my friend list was playing Destiny 2 PC at launch, I think it sold very well. However the player retention I feel must have been horrendous on pc, especially with so many FPS games in the market to fall back through.

Just last week's trials population

7,488 on PC.

46,165 on PS4.

24,161 on XBone.

RationalGinger · Feb 8, 2018

Helacious said:
Everyone on my friend list was playing Destiny 2 PC at launch, I think it sold very well. However the player retention I feel must have been horrendous on pc, especially with so many FPS games in the market to fall back through.

Just last week's trials population

7,488 on PC.

46,165 on PS4.

24,161 on XBone.

To be fair, Destiny PvP has never been a big draw, and frankly has only been a detriment to the game because Bungie can't balance.

Maxina · Feb 8, 2018

I got it for free from buying a 1080ti last year. Haven't touched it, never will.

Oachkatzlschwoaf · Feb 8, 2018

RationalGinger said:
To be fair, Destiny PvP has never been a big draw, and frankly has only been a detriment to the game because Bungie can't balance.

Iirc, D2 already has less than half of the lowest number D1 ever had before D2 released.
a) PvP was big in D1.
b) the player retention in D2 is a disaster.
Some guys on the subreddit parse those numbers, if you want to dig deeper.

Mifec · Feb 8, 2018

RationalGinger said:
To be fair, Destiny PvP has never been a big draw, and frankly has only been a detriment to the game because Bungie can't balance.

Yeah PC has too many actual good pvp games for players to waste their time on the aim assist mess that is D2 pvp on PC.

texhnolyze · Feb 8, 2018

According to Superdata, Destiny 2 was the 4th highest earning premium PC game in 2017, right? Above GTA V and Battlefield 1.

RationalGinger · Feb 8, 2018

Oachkatzlschwoaf said:
Iirc, D2 already has less than half of the lowest number D1 ever had before D2 released.
a) PvP was big in D1.
b) the player retention in D2 is a disaster.
Some guys on the subreddit parse those numbers, if you want to dig deeper.

Destiny PvP was just as bad as it is in D2, D2 just happens to take it to the next level by making it boring.

And yes, the player retention is quite bad.

Mifec said:
Yeah PC has too many actual good pvp games for players to waste their time on the aim assist mess that is D2 pvp on PC.

This. Even back in the Destiny 1 days it baffled me anyone would willingly play the garbage that was that mode when there were better competitive shooters out there. Destiny 2 is just a waste of resources.

Imagine the weapons and abilities we could have if they didn't have to care about PvP. I hate Gearbox and never got into Borderlands - but at least they got that right.

Haze · Feb 8, 2018

RationalGinger said:
To be fair, Destiny PvP has never been a big draw, and frankly has only been a detriment to the game because Bungie can't balance.

Which is part of why Destiny 2's endgame is not good since a lot of it revolved around PVP tokens and events.

Destiny 2's PVP was way worse than 1.

IIFloodyII · Feb 8, 2018

RationalGinger said:
To be fair, Destiny PvP has never been a big draw, and frankly has only been a detriment to the game because Bungie can't balance.

Trials of Osiris was pretty much the biggest thing keeping D1 going for awhile. It was a massive draw.
General PvP has always been mediocre at best imo though, but Trials was great in D1, D2 even managed to ruin that though.

okelF · Feb 8, 2018

Bold One · Feb 9, 2018

Where the hell did the OT for D2 go?

I can't find it in the hangout

Overdoziz · Feb 9, 2018

Maxina said:
I got it for free from buying a 1080ti last year. Haven't touched it, never will.

You show em.