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Destiny would have been better off with Activision than Bungie
- Thread starter Hawkster
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If those cosmetic stuff were activity themed cosmetics like the Hive Dungeon or the raid? Hell yes, I would absolutely grind for it.
Google it, I'm not gonna be able to articulate how many people have analyzed why it looks close to Destiny 1 on a technical level
This, one of the most idiotic thread premises I've seen on here in a while.
I have some major issues with Destiny 2 as it is, but everything I gather is the Destiny faithful love having things waste as much time and be generally inconvenient. Like how Xur would be marked on the map early on, but this wasn't deemed mysterious enough so they removed the map marker and have everyone check Reddit for his weekly location instead. Feel like that's the crux of Destiny 2 as it is right now, looking up what to do, and having a frivolous amount of grind to it.
It's weird because I generally like loot games, love them really, but I've always felt at odds with Destiny 2. I think I've come to realize that it's because it's not really much of a loot game, you get loot, but things are tied so much to a mobile style daily and weekly refresh for your number gains, and a lot of content is barred behind opaque guide bait that I wonder what I'm actually getting out of the game.
That said, I don't think it would be better in Activision's hands either -- unless you wanted a yearly Destiny sequel.
It's weird because I generally like loot games, love them really, but I've always felt at odds with Destiny 2. I think I've come to realize that it's because it's not really much of a loot game, you get loot, but things are tied so much to a mobile style daily and weekly refresh for your number gains, and a lot of content is barred behind opaque guide bait that I wonder what I'm actually getting out of the game.
That said, I don't think it would be better in Activision's hands either -- unless you wanted a yearly Destiny sequel.
Even if they only give you a certain peroid on time? I imagine they'd do something like " you can grind it for a week or else you can buy it". You'd really be ok with that? Because that is how they would do it because they want you to buy it because they make more money that way.
Edit: I take that back. They would just annualize the game. So if you wanted the upgrade with all of the cool new loot $60 please. Are you sure you want that?
Huh? Why do i need to google it when i can load up the game myself and see how good it looks
I know right?
armor 2.0 has been great. It needs some refinements sure but the concept is pretty great. Being able to switch loader mods on the fly has been great for raiding.
They refresh ever-verse to make money. Ya know, the thing they need to keep making content each season? And no they do not refresh it more than vendor refresh. And as far as their vision and drive...what are you talking about? This season has been great. The story is moving forward and changing almost every week.
You seem to be grasping here.
Yeah, I really don't think so at all. Most of your complaints stem from cosmetics and not the actual game itself. As far as I'm concerned you can do everything in the game without touching Eververse. I don't mind the state Eververse is in right now and quite frankly I don't find it intrusive at all to my experience since Shadowkeep. It's a way to get some funding that they currently aren't getting from a third party publisher. I think Destiny is in the best place it's been since D1 Taken King.
There won't be a D3.
New Light is pretty much the "reset" that would have been D3.
I thought they thing they need to make seasons was the $10 dollars they charge you for each time.
There will absolutely be a D3 next year. Foresaken was scrapped together in under a year because they were no longer obligated to rush and ship D3 this year as was scheduled.
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And just because the Eververse cosmetics aren't intrusive for you doesn't mean the frustrations that some players have aren't valid
Loot games is more than power. It's also about personalizing yourself. If the only way to personalize yourself is buying the unique cosmetics and not earn them in gameplay, them that's kinda fucked, wouldn't it?
Better off with Activision as a whole? No.
Better off with support studios, possibly Activision studios? Yes.
Better off with support studios, possibly Activision studios? Yes.
Yeah, I'm going to have to save this post for later
yup cause 10 dollars is gonna pay for all those developers and resources. They need recurring income in order to keep content development up. One ornament for whisper of the worm paid for the zero hour mission (which is awesome) and the outbreak perfected exotic.
if you have been following the story you know they are building to something that would warrant a sequel.
If Activision was still running the show, we'd have D3 coming this year or at most next year. Bungie would clearly not be ready for it.
Now they can work on D3 without being rushed.
Now they can work on D3 without being rushed.
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I have a feeling that Bungie isn't willing to have support studios to help them out and Destiny is gonna suffer for it.
.......what?
some of the best content has been made by support studios in the past. They helped make the season of opulance and the menagerie which was fucking awesome.
You honestly do not seem to know what you are talking about when it comes to Destiny.
Like most of foresaken, rehashed exotics and locations, but now with a time limit.
Bless those whales that paid for it.
Also, I agree that the OP lacks any details to make their point. A shit on Bungie thread has plenty of ammo, a case that Activision would have been better doesn't.
I know some site reported on the fact they are developing their own scifi service game earlier this year. Has anything else come out of that? Do we have any guesses whose leading it?
I know some site reported on the fact they are developing their own scifi service game earlier this year. Has anything else come out of that? Do we have any guesses whose leading it?
u crazy son. Destiny looks great and meets it's mission. The game scales amazingly well across multiple hardware configs.
I bought it. I'm not a whale. A whale is that small percentage of the population that puts tons and tons of money into buying microtransactions.
I bought it cause it looked cool.
I don't mind supporting studios I love who make the games I love and so far destiny has been my fav game this generation by far.
The darkness vs the light. Which will you choose to align yourself with.....
High Moon was behind Black Armory and VV Warmind/Season of Opulence
Season of the Outlaw was Bungie and it's considered the worst, Opulence (VV) as the best.
I like armor 2.0 and the return of the old stats. Feels like I have more flexibility in my armor now.
I don't, however, like how Bungie has doubled down yet again on Eververse. They've all but eliminated the ability to earn cosmetics by playing the game. The amount of bright dust you earn now is absolutely pathetic when it costs thousands for a single item.
The "season pass" system is really underwhelming so far. They could make it more appealing by having it reward engrams that contain current cosmetics instead of all of the old shit I already have.
I don't, however, like how Bungie has doubled down yet again on Eververse. They've all but eliminated the ability to earn cosmetics by playing the game. The amount of bright dust you earn now is absolutely pathetic when it costs thousands for a single item.
The "season pass" system is really underwhelming so far. They could make it more appealing by having it reward engrams that contain current cosmetics instead of all of the old shit I already have.
I think they confirmed that a new Destiny 3 would have to happen eventually. I can see why, the size of the current game is insanely big and a restart would be great at some point. I think it's just little further off than some are suspecting.
I would be happy af if there was a new sequel with an improved engine for the new consoles.
I wouldn't be so happy about losing my gear again for a 3rd time, after losing my OG D1 char by moving to PC when it came out 2 years ago and ditching the PS4 version.
Or they can just take away stuff like they did for Destiny 1 due to memory limitations of the 360/PS3 whenever a expansion came out.
It wasn't nice though.
Why did they make destiny 2, warmind and osiris free? Is it because Activision would have been taking in most of the money anyway?
More like, old content, just like Blizzard includes old expansions in base game after Cataclysm.
Other than just being side story, those don't really contribute to the current endgame at all.
The eververse is an offset for the F2P stuff. Still plenty of cool armor in the game.
I'll agree that the vendor refresh is a shame, hopefully that was due to all the reworked things like Armor 2.0 and next season we'll see a full refresh of older vendors.
I'll agree that the vendor refresh is a shame, hopefully that was due to all the reworked things like Armor 2.0 and next season we'll see a full refresh of older vendors.
Hate to say it, but I think yes OP.
Now that Activision is gone, Bungie focusses only on paid content, hence Eververse is top priority. I understand they need to make money, but giving reskins In-game and new stuff only in eververse is not a fair way to treat your playerbase.
They claim F2P just to justify their current monetization model , yet you still have to pay for DLC/season passes to play the latest content and have some decent progression.
I am afraid it will only get worse.
on Armor 2.0, i like the new system as it gives more depth in builds (not that it matter much as the game is beatable with blue items on).
Now that Activision is gone, Bungie focusses only on paid content, hence Eververse is top priority. I understand they need to make money, but giving reskins In-game and new stuff only in eververse is not a fair way to treat your playerbase.
They claim F2P just to justify their current monetization model , yet you still have to pay for DLC/season passes to play the latest content and have some decent progression.
I am afraid it will only get worse.
on Armor 2.0, i like the new system as it gives more depth in builds (not that it matter much as the game is beatable with blue items on).
Activision had Vicarous Visions and High Moon Studios help with development and content.
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This is a topic trying to illustrate my frustrations with the current state of things in the game
Not an outlet for your hate boner towards Destiny
Well I ain't complaining. Got 2 months of fun out of it all for free and I'm still yet to do 2 of the raids. I'll definitely be buying Forsakin and Shadowkeep on sale though so they'll be getting money out of me they wouldn't otherwise have. Smart move.
Legally, this is a take.
Granted, I'd love to see Vicarious Vision and High Moon continue to work on Destiny, but it's very clearly better off with Bungie.
Granted, I'd love to see Vicarious Vision and High Moon continue to work on Destiny, but it's very clearly better off with Bungie.