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Details about "New" Switch revision via OS datamine (LPDDR4x RAM, modest GPU performance boost, no "Pro" model in sight)
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Just a few months left. I think I'll manage.Era waiting for the Switch Pro:
But the updated Switch releasing has all the things the rumoured Pro was supposed to get, except the name. What's the problem?
Is it? Seems like a pretty small difference.
I was hoping an actual Pro would also have a bigger screen (both bezel) and possibly OLED as well as a significant increase in performance (HDR docked, 1080p handheld). This is nothing really.
No "beefier" / home-console-only version of Switch in 2019 is a big miss for me. Would have filled perfectly the "quiet before the storm" gap in my plans. Next year I will be all about the next generation Playstation, and upgrading my PC. But now I will just fast-track the latter.
There was never a "Pro". WSJ articles hinted at a model with "enhanced internals" (technically true, especially give that their source was familiar with production) and they implied it would look the same as the current model (which is in line with a silent revision, not a "Pro" model).
The community took the vague description, assumed it was a Switch Pro, and inflated expectations.
Or, it was given the name Pro for the lack of a better term, same as the Lite which was dubbed Mini. If you actually read the megathread, there were no outlandish expectations.
I mean, it was outlandish to give it the "Pro" nickname in the first place. Giving it that nickname evoked expectations of PS4 Pro or One X-style mid-gen performance improvements, whether intentional or not. The article even said something to the effect of "you'd be wrong to assume this is like the Pro or the X".
The actual community discussing it only used Pro as a nickname since it caught on. Can't really blame us for people not in the know using the term to pour in whatever they dreamed the Switch Pro to actually be.
The Switch Pro we're getting matches up to the rumours very well.
This is why we have "caution: hot" stickers on things like ovens
Do you believe there will be performance improvements with this model? I'd bet you a shiny penny there aren't, outside of battery life 😉 . Though I'd be fairly happy if there will be a Boost Mode, similar to PS4 Pro.
You have the standards which lay out exactly when we can deem a product a "Pro" or "X" or "New"?
You're free to use those monikers, just don't be disappointed when the product doesn't provide the same level of improvements found in the products that actually have those names.
Wtf? Who said I'm disappointed? I followed the initial thread from beginning to end and I know exactly what to expect, regardless of the moniker.
I'm speaking generally, about the forum. There are definitely people here who bought into the "Pro" nickname and are now disappointed that this isn't that kind of improvement.
For me Lite was a lock-in as second Switch, but then they announced that it wont have TV out. So "New" Switch is a no-brainer for me.
While its not a Pro, I'm not gonna buy a Switch until this is out. Stupid to base purchases on rumor and hearsay? Sure. But 300€ is 300€ of disposable income I won't spend twice or even thrice for years, and I want to have the best available product at that time. The only issue is that this year is the year I NEED to but a Switch not just want, FE/Luigi's Mansion/LoZ:LA/Pokemon are must haves and Pokemon especially is something I always get into Day 1.
It was always rumored to be a small difference. This is the pro that was rumored.
The pro that was promised.
Understood. Some extra RAM might solve that, so we'll see what happens :)
Thats also a good point.
Understood. Seems like a good addition with the extra RAM.
Thanks for the answer everyone.
EDIT: By the way, how does the PS4 Pro do it regarding higher resolution textures when it doesnt have more RAM (for games) than a normal PS4?
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Again with the overlapping terms.
Which rumors presented high expectations for a pro? Nearly every rumor about the enhanced model made sure to mention it would not be a big boost.
I don't understand how expectations were so high. This is the rumored device, there's really no question about it.
Okay can we just call it the Switch S so there's no argument regards "if it's only X% better than it's not a Pro" we're still dealing with some hardware changes and the Xbox One S seems to fit that description. Say the added efficiency gets the GPU to 921Mhz (similar to hacked Switchs) or even 1Ghz that's still a leap. Over what the OG Switch can safely handle.
I don't know if there will be a proper boost mode but I'm sure all games will be able to run better on this device. For some the difference might be small and other games might be able to hit that consistent 30 fps or not drop below 720p or such.
It's a shame because I would happily upgrade to a Switch XL with a better screen even though I play 90% docked
We don't know if the screen will be better or not. It'll probably be brighter and more efficient, they mentioned that might be one of the upgrades early on.
But it's not gonna be bigger or higher res.
Can I just get a confirmation from someone because I feel like I know what's going on.... but then I see some comments that make me double take.
So the revision/"new" model reportedly coming for this year is the "enhanced model" right?
Their is no evidence from a legitimate source saying anything else is coming...correct
- WSJ said 2 models are coming lite and a "enhanced edition model"
- Eurogamer confirmed and said the upgrade like 3DS
- Another insider said "Pro existed for a while now"
- After the lite announcement, Emily reconfirmed revision and said "probably" later this year with 2 new colors
- And Mochi (wsj) said after the lite ... "I will get the other one"
So the revision/"new" model reportedly coming for this year is the "enhanced model" right?
Their is no evidence from a legitimate source saying anything else is coming...correct
Yeah, there's no source for anything else coming. It might be coming, or it might not, we don't really know.
It's not completely clear but it doesn't seem like there is anything else being talked about.
This is definitely what the WSJ was talking about though.
They really should to be honest. From a power consumption and size perspective it makes sense for their hardware. At the very least they should switch to LED backlighting.
Form factor can't change much because of the joycons, the only thing they could improve is getting rid of some screen bezel which is still possible that they did
Maybe but they will never eat the cost, never ever ever, they will cut the battery first :^P
I hope you're right. I might buy if there's any discernible improvement but my gut feeling is that there won't be.
Expect? No. Hope? No harm in hoping. It's got to happen one day, right?
So what should we expect(if anything) from
the new ram?
the new ram?
I hope not. Hated the vita , and ZHD oled screen. It's the main reason I'm planning on buying an XR, instead of the XS.
Have we determined what modest gpu bump even means. Did whoever it was just outright tell people the new clocks?
Still hoping he meant modest bump for docked mode. The new model could probably run docked clocks while portable and still maintain a similar battery life if the efficiency curve is nearly identical to X2 (which I'd assume it is or better since X2 is basically already a 16nm X1 with double the bus width).
Still hoping he meant modest bump for docked mode. The new model could probably run docked clocks while portable and still maintain a similar battery life if the efficiency curve is nearly identical to X2 (which I'd assume it is or better since X2 is basically already a 16nm X1 with double the bus width).
Yea modest can mean different things to different people, wish he would just say what the clock speed was
the rumors that said the capability of the machine would be enhanced "for avid gamers". at most it'll just be a slight improvement in frame rate on existing games and a slightly higher clock speed will be available. it's just a standard revision, nothing pro about it.
while they didn't say anything specific about the improvements, it's easy to take the rumors out of context, and using the name "pro" makes it worse because you immediately start thinking about the ps4 pro which is a much bigger change.
im sure you didn't think that there would be a big difference, and that's great for you, but i'm of the opinion that most people thought this revision would be a bigger jump.
Digital foundry says the clock speed isn't increased in the enhanced switched
Maybe they missed what was said in the op here or they got their own source that knows the speed?
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They missed a few things in that video, the battery size for the Lite too.
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