Did I warp into some alternate dimension where question marks are an obscene symbol?
I was just using them as shorthand for "what do you mean?". How am I disrespecting you?
Did I warp into some alternate dimension where question marks are an obscene symbol?
A version with better thermals and buttery life that can use more of the existing chip's power to achieve better resolution and framerate is all I really want from a revision honestly.
For every post like this there is another one saying how XC2 is the worst RPG of the modern era or some shit like that. I've toyed with the notion that a Switch revision that ran XC2 at native or near-native res when handheld might convince me to finally pick it up, but with so much negative feedback regarding numerous non-performance-related elements of the game I doubt I ever will.
Its fine because its not suppised to be the Switch 2 , just a new Switch
I believe texture quality and resolution are much more limited by the type of memory with low bandwidth and GPU/CPU than the amount, 4GB is plenty for a system with Switch specs.Would 8gb ram potentially mean higher quality textures? Or would they still be hamstrung by the GPU?
Probably makes its easier to port games from other systems intially
This is just gotten ridiculous, from a consumers perspective. And I certainly wouldn't put it past Nintendo to not even acknowledge the revision, despite it being only slightly more powerful/efficient.
As someone who has contemplated when/if I should get a Switch for some time now, I guess I just wait for holidays, see what's there. What an annoyance
How the hell is it "How it should be?" I don't care if 95% of the consumers could care less, you inform the consumer, just like with the New 3ds. Hell outta here with that lol.It isn't Switch Pro. While it has improvements, this unit will sit on shelves and a consumer wouldn't be able to know if it was the new or old version of the Switch.
How it should be.
Dream killers, the lot of you.
But for realsy, why increase the devkit to 8GB of RAM?
Exactly it's going to have some type of name attached to itHow the hell is it "How it should be?" I don't care if 95% of the consumers could care less, you inform the consumer, just like with the New 3ds. Hell outta here with that lol.
It's apparently going to launch with at least two new colors according to Emily so they will acknowledge these at the very least in terms of coming in new colors. So you'll know which one you're getting.
you can't run from your mistakes!Been wanting to dive in on Switch for LttP remake. I'm fine with a modest boost. I just didn't wanna regret buying in too soon before significant hardware revisions.
lol, both subtitles have "Link" in it. It's all Nintendo's fault
The revision will probably still be 4GBDF's speculation.
The revision will probably get 6GB, Devkits will get 8GB. Current Switch devkits have 6GB , confirmed from DF's video a few weeks ago.
It isn't Switch Pro. While it has improvements, this unit will sit on shelves and a consumer wouldn't be able to know if it was the new or old version of the Switch.
How it should be.
That's for devs, not retail unitsIf "enhanced features" means an improved OS we might get 8gb with 2 of it going toward the console
2 for games? More like all 4GB will be for the OS only for Nintendo to release a stability update.If "enhanced features" means an improved OS we might get 8gb with 2 of it going toward the console
2 for games? More like all 4GB will be for the OS only for Nintendo to release a stability update.
I'm joking. The 1GB that they have for the OS atm is plenty for a bunch of things. Just look at what the Vita is capable of doing with far less. It's Nintendo not wanting to put any effort and must protect the children philosophy for their barebones OS.Is that so? The tweet didn't sound too clear one way or the other
I meant like the PS4. I think that has 8 gigs with 3 going to the os and 5 for games, so something like that
Okay this settles it for me. I'm not waiting 18 months for a possible pro model which might not even exist. Looks like I'll get one in the next month or so.
The lite shows 50% improvement in efficiency so 50% improvement to 393 gflops would be about 600 gflops in docked if they choose to max out docked speeds
Where does it officially say that clockspeeds are faster in lite and that it's 50% more efficient? 50% more efficent =/= 50% more power either.
Hmm but then what's the point in allegedly making life easier for developers if the target system stays the same regarding RAM amount?
Base PS4 probably, maybe even slightly more powerful.
Tegra Xavier is supposed to be capable of 1.4Tflops and that's out now. Not in any sort of chip that Nintendo can use but if there is a customized chip for a Switch 2 eventually They should have no issues with a significant upgrade. Tegra Orin is around the corner and should be more powerful than Xavier as well
You don't have to wait.I'll wait for DF analysis and so on. Own launch Switch but wanted to have a 2nd one to come with me ok my daily trips so might get the Lite unless this revision fixes frame rate issues
Yeah, base Xbox One performance is already possible in Tegra SOCs and in some case, even base PS4 (considering Nvidia flops are more worth than AMD flops) . It's pretty crazy to think about that.Tegra Xavier is supposed to be capable of 1.4Tflops and that's out now. Not in any sort of chip that Nintendo can use but if there is a customized chip for a Switch 2 eventually They should have no issues with a significant upgrade. Tegra Orin is around the corner and should be more powerful than Xavier as well
I do think base ps4 power is doable for Switch 2. A 1.3 TFLOP docked console may or may not be possible on 7nm(Nvidia has Xavier running at 20-30 watts on 12nm), but there's a decent chance on a 5nm or some enhanced 12nm. And around 1.3 Nividia TFLOPs in 2022 should be all it takes to reach AMD's older GPU equivalent of 1.84 TFLOPs.
I wouldnt call it exponential considering Moores Law is dead and new Node increases are becoming fewer and less impressive with each generation.Yeah, base Xbox One performance is already possible in Tegra SOCs and in some case, even base PS4 (considering Nvidia flops are more worth than AMD flops) . It's pretty crazy to think about that.
Now with technology progressing exponentially and not linear, think about what's possible in 2 years!
I guess nobody knows yet?Will this revision finally support Bluetooth audio? That's my biggest gripe with the Switch.
Lol this. It uses four times the power the Tegra in the Switch uses and is as big as the Scorpio Engine, with 2 billion more transistors.I wouldnt call it exponential considering Moores Law is dead and new Node increases are becoming fewer and less impressive with each generation.
Also currently there are no Tegra SOCs that can reach XBO levels. Xavier is not a Tegra and uses no Tegra branding; in addition it requires 20-30W and is physically too large to fit into a tablet.
Also currently there are no Tegra SOCs that can reach XBO levels. Xavier is not a Tegra and uses no Tegra branding; in addition it requires 20-30W and is physically too large to fit into a tablet.
Of course they are. They didn't make a long term deal for nothing. The only way to really make a big improvement over the current Switch (As powerful as Xbox One S when docked, with an 800Gflop Turigg GPU, with more powerful CPU) is with the 7nm node. I speculated Nvidia might use the TSMC node for such a Tegra chip this year, but perhaps they'll do so next year with Samsung's 7nm EUV just like with their desktop GPUs.I seriously wonder what Nintendo is going to use as their SoC for an eventual Switch successor. With Nvidia having refocused their Tegra divsion towards things such as self-driving cars, AI, car entertainment systems, etc., Tegra X2 is basically the last chip still suited for tablet use. Added to this, there's the facts that a) Nintendo generally seems to prefer to put cheaper stock chips into their devices instead of bankrolling more expensive custom solutions and b) Nvidia definitely isn't the type of company that would do customized design work for a third party on the cheap.So I wonder whether, in two or three years or so, Nvidia is still going to have a "conventional" mobile SoC available that Nintendo could use.
If Mariko is finally this improved Tegra X1 with LPDDR4x support and so forth, then judging by the Switch Lite battery life improvements its not a huge jump in efficiency. The Switch Lite has a smaller screen, saves energy with the Lpddr4 memory, has fewer components due to not having to dock, and doesn't have to keep the JoyCons charged. So, there's an improvement, but it seems to be marginal.