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Developing: Epic Games Launcher appears to collect your steam friends & play history (Up2: Valve responds, See Threadmarks)
- Thread starter Madjoki
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"Why can't you respond logically?" claims user who describes a Chinese-backed company collecting data without consent "harmless"
Oh i am sorry, I am not a native english speaker as it is my third language so i might have misread what you said, Can you please clarify what you meant when you posted this?
Break it down for me will you?
All of this outrage over friends list and games list. Like yeah the outrage seems very illogical to me. Again rationally speaking this is not a big deal. To me.
Welp. I wonder how this will go down in the EU? I know they have some big time consumer protection around this kind of stuff.
Hey, I am reading the thread but having to deal with some phonecalls at the same time so my attention isn't the best, but at this point is it confirmed that the Data is sent? This is already looking bad from every angle, I just want clarification on that bit, because the moneyhatting alone is already kinda crap, even the new game from Hyper Light Drifters dev would have to wait, their pricing customs ain't the best in my place from what I've seen so far, but this would pretty much settle it me not touching their store anytime soon, exclusives or not.
It's OK to be wrong sometimes. We all make mistakes. Sometimes I forget to put the milk back in the fridge, sometimes you excuse GDPR violating data collection practices as harmless, it happens to the best of us.
Well the OP already has a list of what data they are collecting and how to verify it so yeah that's pretty much it.
Do we even know if the app does this in GDPR countries yet? Shocker I know but the majority of the world doesn't live* in GDPR territories. It isn't some moral metric of data collection or some world wide bar that must be met.
Why should we allow any company to do covert illegal data collection?
And why do you support it?
If we're using our work cred, well, I have experience in the field of data science. What they are doing is, at the very least, not ethical.
Hell, it's frustrating to think I (a lowly coder from a, by comparison to Epic, small and humble business) spent so many stressful hours trying to be GDPR-compliant despite the unlikeliness of us ever being targeted by fines, when huge companies with a money-printing machine like Fortnite can just flip the bird towards regulations willy-nilly.
Hell, it's frustrating to think I (a lowly coder from a, by comparison to Epic, small and humble business) spent so many stressful hours trying to be GDPR-compliant despite the unlikeliness of us ever being targeted by fines, when huge companies with a money-printing machine like Fortnite can just flip the bird towards regulations willy-nilly.
Why Valve should do that? This data is stored locally. No one should be reading/collecting it.
They get a perfect, real time network of who is on Steam and using the EGS store at once.
Oh man, this is going to be PC Gamer's new headline tomorrow, isn't it?
"Valve does not secure your information inside your own computer to prevent internal spying"
It's actually all our fault to being people with characteristics and other things, if we were perfect blank slate nothing of this would have happened.
Do you expect Valve to go and encrypt my own files on my own local PC that I own?
Why should valve have to encrypt our own local files on our own PCs?
Incompetence: Valve lets other companies read your Steam info.
User Banned (3 days): trolling
More hyperbole. Please list said American laws this breaks. As this is where I live and where I'm posting from. GDPR is an extremely niche law effecting a minority of the webs population.
In retrospect this makes those comments about how EGS users not having Steam installed make much more sense in regards to how they could even track that.
The stupidest part though is that if they just had been upfront, most people would not care but instead they set this time bomb up for no reason.
The stupidest part though is that if they just had been upfront, most people would not care but instead they set this time bomb up for no reason.
So glad I never installed this piece of shit software for the free games. Just adds yet another reason to never buy from the EGS, and I hope something overtakes Fortnite's popularity so Epic wont have so much money to throw around for purchasing exclusives, preventing real competition with their anti-consumer crap store/launcher.
Is it not true? How many other companies are doing the same thing? You should expect better from both Epic and Valve.
I'd really like to know what business you run if you think there's no moral bar for data collection. WOW.
WOW.
Yes, I did mention they'd need a local index of known title IDs, mapping those IDs to some basic metadata about the game. Would be doable, and wouldn't have to be terribly large.
Well they do own 40% of Epic. While in theory that's still a "minority" share, no doubt they are having a lot of influence on how Epic is doing business.
Just checking if steam is installed would be a lot more minor
your steam friend ID sure (which I think even private profiles might show--private mostly hides games & friends, right?). It wouldn't have the game/saves listing and stuff. Not as bad as, say, the Cambridge Analytica thing where FB let other people opt you in to full data remittance lol. That was a classic.
I almost can't imagine they're not involved, but I also can't imagine they'd ever tell us if that was the case.