You know, I've mostly been indifferent about the Epic Game Store and how they're buying exclusives, but this is shitty and really irritates me. This is Facebook levels of vacuuming up data that I didn't consent to providing, and it's disgusting that companies think they're entitled to any and all data just because. Screw them, I've uninstalled it. A few free games isn't worth having my trust completely violated.
-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Developing: Epic Games Launcher appears to collect your steam friends & play history (Up2: Valve responds, See Threadmarks)
- Thread starter Madjoki
- Start date
Competition is always good!
As I'm sure the usual suspects will be all too eager to remind us in their reporting on this (if they do any reporting at all).
Because if they did, they'd be completely and utterly fucked, at least here in the EU.
As I'm sure the usual suspects will be all too eager to remind us in their reporting on this (if they do any reporting at all).
Google doesn't spy on local data stored on my personal PC (or even my personal mobile phone, which runs Android) without my consent.
Because if they did, they'd be completely and utterly fucked, at least here in the EU.
That's stupid "both sides" bullshit. Nobody randomly encrypts all non-critical local information on a system because some rogue spying program could come along and steal it.
Remember when facebook was collecting data from people without explict consent? That went well right?
No. The creator of steam spy is their employee.
In the future, maybe.
Is this actually legal ? I'm fine with giving some infos on an opt-in basis, but that kind of hidden telemetry looks shady as hell.
I already wasn't intending to ever buy anything from Epic Games due to their unethical business practices, but this thread led me to finally request the deletion of my Epic Games account. Since I am an EU citizen, I requested the GDPR-conform (niche law, lol) deletion of all my personal data as well. If you also want to delete your Epic Games account, you have to use their contact form at https://epicgames.helpshift.com/a/epic-accounts/?s=epic-account-support (top right: "Contact us", then select "Delete Epic Games Account"). This is technically enough to have them delete your account, but if you are an EU citizen, you should paste the following GDPR deletion statement in the text box too:
You will get an automated email that requires you to reply by copying a paragraph from their email and filling in your account information. I'm curious if they will provide any information the above statement requests from them. Probably not, because they don't give a shit about GDPR apparently.
You will get an automated email that requires you to reply by copying a paragraph from their email and filling in your account information. I'm curious if they will provide any information the above statement requests from them. Probably not, because they don't give a shit about GDPR apparently.
In EU this is blatant violation of GDPR at least if not other data privacy laws on top of that.
Context for this on anyone else who missed what this is referring to first time around
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...points-on-twitter.93249/page-11#post-16868916
Looks like they can look up anything that is also stored locally as a backup.
Because they go snooping all over the Steam directory on your computer.
I don't get the comparisons to Google or Facebook - These companies are tracking things I post online in their platform etc. It's quite different to a program going through my personal files on my PC!
Well, after Valve shut off his way to get data, I guess he had to take more drastic measures.
Yeah, comparing it to those is underselling how fucked up (and illegal) this is.
I mentioned this here:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...t-final-episodes-on-steam.88413/post-16171308
After further research, the EGL is Tencent spyware.
Maybe they changed the location, but the IP addresses were pinging China.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...t-final-episodes-on-steam.88413/post-16171308
After further research, the EGL is Tencent spyware.
Maybe they changed the location, but the IP addresses were pinging China.
Last edited:
Get ready to be told how to properly use Microsoft Process Monitor.
Joke's on you for actually owning Bad Rats 3 ;)
...Wait, they made sequels
Tom Happ, the developer of Axiom Verge, said on Twitter that he removed the files before the game got offered on the Epic Store.
However, no one at Epic checked the game before it was their freebie.
I wonder how the developers that made agreements with Epic Store feel about the issue?
I understand they got their money and feel happy about it but they are associating their brand with a spyware store.
I understand they got their money and feel happy about it but they are associating their brand with a spyware store.
The first part was ironic.
About the landmark titles, Unreal and Gears of War were some titles that set new standards (technologically and gameplay wise respectively), each in their time of release.
Took me six months to get my account deleted after about 30 emails and constantly being told they would delete it and not doing so.
I was getting about 3 emails a day about how my account was trying to be accessed (hacked) and even that wasn't even enough to hurry them up.
They don't give a damn apparently, they just want to keep people on their service as much as possible, that's why they make it so difficult to delete accounts.
Honestly Epic are shady and I have been beating this drum for months now, they can't be trusted and Steam having a poor attitude towards curation isn't an excuse to ignore what Epic are doing, their blatant corruption and greed and illegal behaviour is unacceptable and anti-consumer.
Worst part is, games journalists are turning a blind eye to what Epic are doing because they dislike Steam it seems.
Either that or they are on Epics payroll...
I mean, like, probably half of all the games I've ever owned run on one version or the other of UE, Unreal and UT were massive titles back in the day, and Gears of War codified the cover shooter. There's definitely reason to be upset by Epic going to lengths to steal data out of competition.
EDIT: Just saw your new post. Disregard.
I doubt they can get in trouble in the EU because of RGPD, nicknames and games are not sensitive information, but I hope Valve can sue the living hell out of them.
You literally just handwaved clear facts repeatable by yourself in favour of "a proper story" to be made to agree with. That's some straight up head in sand there mate.
It is information that you can opt to make private, and they are breaching that privacy. Much like saying no to cookies on a website and the website continues to still collect your cookies.
If it would be problematic for you if those files were out in the public space? Yes. If not then just realize that data just isn't safe and live your life? But you do you.
Last edited:
Nicknames are personal data too and you never consented to this specific case of data collection. I also know many Steam users who use their real names.
This removes the final shred of doubt about skipping their launcher. It's never happening now no matter how many idies they 1-year money hat. Money hatting is slimy and this is slimy too. They're cleary operating under a mentality I disagree with. Steam has problems, but this is not how you beat them.
that's right, let the media tell you what's right and wrong! Don't you dare use your own head!
/s
It's freaking incredible some here are ok with this. This is the very definition of malware, it behaves like a Trojan.
And this is all that has been digged. For all we know it could be able to read your CC info if you're running Steam and EGS at the same time.
It's an immense breach of trust. Maybe if I mention that hat Epic is partially owned by Tencent, an almost China-government owned company, they will care?
And this is all that has been digged. For all we know it could be able to read your CC info if you're running Steam and EGS at the same time.
It's an immense breach of trust. Maybe if I mention that hat Epic is partially owned by Tencent, an almost China-government owned company, they will care?