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Marossi

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,997
oh wow how could I've missed that account self destruct in the last page.

This thread needs to go to the vault after it dies down. Legendary stuff. Went talking about the leak, to discuss the nature of punishment vs rehab, shrek porn and a crazy account self destruct.

GTA truly is a wild moment in the gaming industry.
 

Art_3

Banned
Aug 30, 2022
5,089
I would bet money that Rockstar is giddy with being able to reference Miami Vice setpieces in modern consoles,i can already see the Everglades equivalent in game being full of easter eggs
 

Lucini

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,529
This is a monumental Gaming Era thread.

I think the next few days will be people intentionally spreading bullshit and chaff to make sure that no one knows which way things are headed. Then someone will get caught, work will resume as "normal" and we don't hear about the game again until it's ready. Plus there's likely a joke at the hacker's expense in the game somewhere.
 
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Chestbridge

Member
Oct 29, 2017
296
I would bet money that Rockstar is giddy with being able to reference Miami Vice setpieces in modern consoles,i can already see the Everglades equivalent in game being full of easter eggs

There better be a skunk-ape in the Everglades, I swear to god.

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SinkFla

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,446
Pensacola, Fl
1. I've been informed, politely and patiently, by some others and I agree. To be clear, I've said this before too, but the only reason I started talking about "rehabilitation" in the first place is because some random guy suddenly, quite unprompted, started saying "No, there are no crimes that condemn someone to a lack of a second chance or rehabilitation", which threw me for quite a loop and I admittedly got way too over my fucking head, since then people started arguing with me for stuff I didn't actually say.

2. People say he deserved prison, yes. But no one actually said "he should be in jail for life", it was the same person who said the thing I mentioned in Point 1 who out of nowhere said "why should he be in jail for decades/life?" when no one actually said that in the first place.

I know you think I'm in the wrong for this. That's fine. I said some dumb shit. I was out of my depth. But if you actually follow the conversation to its roots, and take a look at how some people summarized what actually went down, like in this post:


...I hope you can see that this all started because some bad faith posters were debating points that no one actually brought up in the first place.

You have my sword. I'd post that handshake gif but my head is spinning already with trying to catch up on this thread. 🤣

I love insane threads like these. I wonder how many people who think punishment and temporary removal from larger society is too much for the hacker are the same with 50+ block lists and frequently demand that console warring port beggers be banned from Era. 😆

I think Admiral Neon Elk needs to grace us with a detailed Malcolm Mcdowell breakdown of the weekends events.
 

Lightning

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,157
Pennsylvania
New (verified) account that the leaker mentioned on GTA Forums before shutting down posted in the "new" chat, mentioning tomorrow there "will be news"


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Take it for what you want.
 

Art_3

Banned
Aug 30, 2022
5,089
New (verified) account that the leaker mentioned on GTA Forums before shutting down posted in the "new" chat, mentioning tomorrow there "will be news"


wOHzn5y.png

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rKNpIPz.png


Take it for what you want.
1.Dude's an asshole and will just leak the whole source code out of spite
2.he will keep going "one more day" because he doesn't have shit.
I'm pretty sure it's the latter
 

Crossing Eden

Member
Oct 26, 2017
53,380
havent checked this thread in a while but the what now
There was someone saying that if Rockstar doesn't pay them they will post the source code. And they hyped up the moment where it was gonna happened. And when the grand reveal was meant to happen instead of GTA VI source code the person just posted porn of Shrek before IIRC, saying the n word a lot.
 

Solid SOAP

One Winged Slayer
Member
Nov 27, 2017
8,250
This shit started so interesting lmfao it was genuinely cool to see some GTA VI footage now mans is just posting Shrek porn and being racist GTFO
 

SinkFla

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,446
Pensacola, Fl
This shit started so interesting lmfao it was genuinely cool to see some GTA VI footage now mans is just posting Shrek porn and being racist GTFO

Yeah I was gonna say I went from HAHA to "... The fuck?" In like 30 seconds flat. Milkshake duck strikes again.*

(*I'm kidding the person who'd do this was already an asshole but just became an even shittier one)
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,362
I love insane threads like these. I wonder how many people who think punishment and temporary removal from larger society is too much for the hacker are the same with 50+ block lists and frequently demand that console warring port beggers be banned from Era. 😆
Speaking of insane, I'd say comparing forum blocks and bans to prison probably ranks pretty high on the list, hmmm?
 

SinkFla

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,446
Pensacola, Fl
Speaking of insane, I'd say comparing forum blocks and bans to prison probably ranks pretty high on the list, hmmm?

Yes it's pretty bonkers, which is exactly my point lol. How real world crimes like the Rockstar breach being more detrimental to society and thus are deserving a more punitive response than silly forum wars to which some people demand instant permanent punishment. I'm not the one frequently advocating the latter and excusing the former so uh thanks for the assist?
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,362
Yes it's pretty bonkers, which is exactly my point lol. How real world crimes like the Rockstar breach being more detrimental to society and thus are deserving a more punitive response than silly forum wars to which some people demand instant permanent punishment. I'm not the one frequently advocating the latter and excusing the former so uh thanks for the assist?
Whoosh
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,362
Oh silly me I had no idea you were not on my team! How smart you is. /s

Compelling counter argument lol.
You were actually suggesting that being opposed to a lengthy prison sentence is hypocritical if you are also in favour of forum bans, and playing "gotcha" on this.

This is a legitimately comically unhinged position to take. Just letting you know.
 

EatChildren

Wonder from Down Under
Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,030
I love insane threads like these. I wonder how many people who think punishment and temporary removal from larger society is too much for the hacker are the same with 50+ block lists and frequently demand that console warring port beggers be banned from Era. 😆

Probably plenty. Era has the same problems many progressive / left leaning circles (see: Twitter) on the internet have; good intentions, but largely uninformed and poorly thought out understanding of and critique towards societal problems and human behaviour, and what constitutes as a fair, reasonable, proportionate response to whatever a person is guilty of and what the intent/goal of that response is. Your example is valid, in the same breath that this place is full of people who parrot "ACAB" and abhor societal injustice, and demand reform of our justice system, but also froth at the possibility of disproportionate punitive responses from the law when it's someone/something they personally see as a threat or injustice, with total disregard to suggestions of rehabilitation and long term welfare of the perpetrator. You know, ACAB and fuck the justice system, unless it's something I don't like, in which case lock them up and throw away the key and never, ever, forever let them back into society.

Which I'm not accusing anyone here (yourself included) of suggesting or implying. More that these conversations are always a bit of spotlight on the logical inconsistencies many demonstrate. Evidence of people who, again, mean well and are probably quite progressive in their personal life and general opinions on things, but have a lot of work to do personally in really unpacking what they think and believe in regard to more complex societal topics, and haven't yet developed the introspection to realise they routinely demonstrate hypocrisy in their belief systems.

Internet gonna internet I guess. I hope the kid receives justice proportionate to the crimes in addition to supportive, rehabilitive services that recognise they are still a minor, and allow the kid to recognise the impact of their behaviour, rationalise why it's unacceptable, and return to society with low risk of reoffence.

I also hope this has an equally proportionate impact on development and Rockstar's work culture, and there isn't a disproportionate response from upper management in regards to staff expectations (eg: WFH policies). It's a shitty thing to have happened, and I'm certain thousands of people across Rockstar are gutted, but it has happened and life goes on. GTA6 will still be met with a fury of interest and excitement, and I'd be bewildered if it was anything less than one of the most successful game launches in history.
 

DongBeetle

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,017
You have my sword. I'd post that handshake gif but my head is spinning already with trying to catch up on this thread. 🤣

I love insane threads like these. I wonder how many people who think punishment and temporary removal from larger society is too much for the hacker are the same with 50+ block lists and frequently demand that console warring port beggers be banned from Era. 😆

I think Admiral Neon Elk needs to grace us with a detailed Malcolm Mcdowell breakdown of the weekends events.
I know many here don't interact with too many people outside of internet circles so maybe a ban from Era might seem pretty severe but removal from larger society is a much bigger/more devastating event than being banned for shitting up Era imo
 

Dolce

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,252
does anyone have access to footage that is chronologically based on the builds or at least just focuses on the newest build?
 

Lady Gaia

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,479
Seattle
Probably plenty. Era has the same problems many progressive / left leaning circles (see: Twitter) on the internet have; good intentions, but largely uninformed and poorly thought out understanding of and critique towards societal problems and human behaviour, and what constitutes as a fair, reasonable, proportionate response to whatever a person is guilty of and what the intent/goal of that response is. Your example is valid, in the same breath that this place is full of people who parrot "ACAB" and abhor societal injustice, and demand reform of our justice system, but also froth at the possibility of disproportionate punitive responses from the law when it's someone/something they personally see as a threat or injustice, with total disregard to suggestions of rehabilitation and long term welfare of the perpetrator. You know, ACAB and fuck the justice system, unless it's something I don't like, in which case lock them up and throw away the key and never, ever, forever let them back into society.

Which I'm not accusing anyone here (yourself included) of suggesting or implying. More that these conversations are always a bit of spotlight on the logical inconsistencies many demonstrate. Evidence of people who, again, mean well and are probably quite progressive in their personal life and general opinions on things, but have a lot of work to do personally in really unpacking what they think and believe in regard to more complex societal topics, and haven't yet developed the introspection to realise they routinely demonstrate hypocrisy in their belief systems.

Internet gonna internet I guess. I hope the kid receives justice proportionate to the crimes in addition to supportive, rehabilitive services that recognise they are still a minor, and allow the kid to recognise the impact of their behaviour, rationalise why it's unacceptable, and return to society with low risk of reoffence.

I also hope this has an equally proportionate impact on development and Rockstar's work culture, and there isn't a disproportionate response from upper management in regards to staff expectations (eg: WFH policies). It's a shitty thing to have happened, and I'm certain thousands of people across Rockstar are gutted, but it has happened and life goes on. GTA6 will still be met with a fury of interest and excitement, and I'd be bewildered if it was anything less than one of the most successful game launches in history.

Quoted mostly to thank you for a thoughtful and accurate response to a challenging issue. There are a dozen related conversations to be had that feel rather tangential - but it's absolutely gratifying to know that there are others out there who can still tease apart the subtleties and refuse to fall for reactionary polarization in their stance on complex problems.
 

Dolce

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,252
I was thinking. I don't think the fishing stuff is a RDR2 holdover. It would be really weird to do a new GTA in Florida without depicting the fishing we have here.

Probably plenty. Era has the same problems many progressive / left leaning circles (see: Twitter) on the internet have; good intentions, but largely uninformed and poorly thought out understanding of and critique towards societal problems and human behaviour, and what constitutes as a fair, reasonable, proportionate response to whatever a person is guilty of and what the intent/goal of that response is. Your example is valid, in the same breath that this place is full of people who parrot "ACAB" and abhor societal injustice, and demand reform of our justice system, but also froth at the possibility of disproportionate punitive responses from the law when it's someone/something they personally see as a threat or injustice, with total disregard to suggestions of rehabilitation and long term welfare of the perpetrator. You know, ACAB and fuck the justice system, unless it's something I don't like, in which case lock them up and throw away the key and never, ever, forever let them back into society.

Something a lot of people don't get is that criminal reform and such also means treating people who are responsible for crimes you don't like. Very often, it will be heinous stuff. There's no "I support everything but not THIS."