The IGN review is really good. The reviewer actually knows his stuff and actually plays pretty well.
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Devil May Cry 5 Review Thread (Current Scores: MetaCritic 88, OpenCritic 89)
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Wow holy shit, you guys weren't kidding.
The IGN review is absolutely amazing, didn't expect to say this but it's even better than the East Allies one.
You can tell this guy knows his shit and he is quite a skilled DMC player as well. It really does look like a review coming from a DMC fan.
Great job Mitchell Saltzman, that review was
The IGN review is absolutely amazing, didn't expect to say this but it's even better than the East Allies one.
You can tell this guy knows his shit and he is quite a skilled DMC player as well. It really does look like a review coming from a DMC fan.
Great job Mitchell Saltzman, that review was
I'm just happy the game is being received well. Hopefully the sales are good too. I want this series to have a future.
I'm not about to let someone with a Xenosaga 2 avatar give me shit.
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All I'm saying is don't hold reviews scores too personally. They rarely mean anything.
The IGN review is actually really good and has some impressive gameplay. The guy was very solid at the game.
Posting the equivalent to "Git gud" and then saying I "have trouble reading," (especially when I wasn't even the one to bring up the launcher move in the first place) aren't great ways of making the game seem welcoming.
Again, the launcher move is not my issue here.
My issue isn't that I have to experiment, it's that the game doesn't give you enough feedback to show what the results of my experimentation are. I had the same issue with Bayonetta 1+2, I had the same issue in MGR: Revengeance and I had the same issue in the Demo. I didn't have the same issue in games such as Dark Souls and Bloodborne despite those being equally hard and full of relatively complicated systems (albeit more systems-driven than mechanics-driven.). Stuff like the lack of healthbars, the unrelenting enemy attacks and the ranking system don't help at all.
D: asshole
And fair enough, but you should've been a little less condescending towards DMC in a DMC thread
Not everyone who enjoys these games is super hardcore and you shouldn't come away with the impression that you have to master everything from the get-go. I'm hoping this game has some kind of good tutorial or practice areas myself because the demo made me realize I've long since forgotten basic stuff like how Nero's sword works. I think the stylish technical gameplay is something to aspire to and it's fun to try and pull that stuff off, but don't let it (or elitists) intimidate you.
It's kinda funny, I played DMC1-4 and Bayonetta before I started to play these games the 'correct' way. I just played them to get through them and remembered them (especially 3) as being pretty damn hard. DmC was the point at which I was able to get a better grasp on the gameplay thanks to it being a bit slower and easier to understand. Afterwards when I replayed Bayo1, then went on to Bayo2 and W101 I was much much better than I had been previously. There's definitely value in these games holding your hand for a little bit and I'm curious what DMC5 will do. Not curious enough to want to look at previews though.
And in some way, quadruple. Assuming DMC5 doesn't start going backwards halfway through it.
The whole DmC reboot thing was so confusing from the get go considering at the time DMC4 was the best selling in the franchise. That's typically, uh, not when you reboot.
Last gen capcom, man.
I know, here's my update:
Wow holy shit, you guys weren't kidding.
The IGN review is absolutely amazing, didn't expect to say this but it's even better than the East Allies one.
You can tell this guy knows his shit and he is quite a skilled DMC player as well. It really does look like a review coming from a DMC fan.
Great job Mitchell Saltzman, that review was
Wow, this seems like an excellent reception!
Better tweet Kamiya our congratulations, he's done it again!
Better tweet Kamiya our congratulations, he's done it again!
lmao bayo 2 suddenly trash huh. Sounds like people trying to bolster devil may cry more because of their insecurities
it gave us a better dmc 5, dragon's dogma and a pretty good western action game, so there is that
Yeah I don't get it either, what a weird strategy coming from a successful AAA company.
We in there
better gameplay than TLOU that's for sure
better story and characters too
I liked Xeno 2. :p
My animosity was toward review scores. I can't give an honest opinion till I complete this DMC.
I don't mean this to be condescending, but maybe try approaching it with a new attitude? Not every game needs to spill its guts and explain every quirk of every design decision to the player. Try approaching it like a mysterious puzzle box where every new dial you press and knob you turn opens up a new surprising mechanism to explore. The game of DMC isn't doing launchers because enemy X has a certain weak spot that opens up and takes 23% damage in the air, it's playing around with all the in-depth options to find your own unique way of SSSing a tough boss.
What feedback are you looking for? There are health bars. You can literally see their health whittle away as you combo them. The starting enemies are punching bags intended for you to learn the controls. The scythe guys don't flinch to every hit you do but if you launch them, they're defenseless, so hey let me launch them. After hitting the boss enough times, he goes down for the count, allowing you to just beat his ass however you want till he gets up letting you know "alright time to back up now and be less aggressive."
My dude, how are literal video demonstrations and a literal option to head to a training room to use a new move not enough for you?
There are health bars, notice the circle getting smaller per hit:
Basic enemies in DMC are less aggressive on average because they're there to be styled on
The ranking system is visual feedback on your ability to be creative.
All of your issues are self inflicted.
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More that its trash to serious character action game fans, not in general
Thanks for not being patronising lol
And yeah, there is value in a good practice mode. To me an empty room with one enemy to beat on is not a good practice mode; I'd much prefer something that was basically just regular gameplay but in a controlled environment where I don't have to worry about story, damage, enemies disappearing or being berated by the rating system. Trials Rising's tutorials are a good example of this. If that game has that then great, but all I've been told here is that I just "need to experiment" which simply doesn't help when this is a problem I've had in literally every other character action game I've played.
Ok I really don't get your last few thoughts here.
Firstly, every enemy has a health bar. Like, every one. Bosses get big screen filling ones whilst normal guys get one whenever you lock on.
Second, how is the ranking system an example of not giving you feedback. It's the most detailed feedback I can think of in maybe any game, it's a running scoreboard of how you're doing.
DMC community like the FGC where if you're in, you're in, but no one else is safe. It's the prison gang system
Sekiro and DMC hype is united for me (and I assume any others) because i like games that prioritize SKILL daddeh
You can see enemy health bars by locking on, which you should be doing virtually ALL the time in a DMC game. Souls games have a different focus than these stylish action games. In Souls games, the primary objective is to survive.
As far as the feedback for your experiments go... that's really a matter of personal satisfaction and growth. Yeah the style ranking system exists to give you feedback but it's not fully accurate. The best thing I would recommend is paying attention to what spikes the style rank up. Hitting multiple enemies, hitting them in the air, changing up attacks, keeping hits going with no down time, not getting hit yourself etc. Then when you reach those high S ranks, try to maintain them as long as you can. Your game play will automatically adjust to accommodate it. Your style rank is going down because you are repeating attacks, so you start mixing it up. You get hit too often resulting in style bar dropping instantly, you try to get hit less by using the various defensive options. There is too much down time in between your attacks, so you use better mobility attacks to move between enemies or use stuff like Wire Snatch to close the distance etc.
You don't go at these games by trying to do everything at once. You learn a few moves, learn to do them well and in clutch situations then you add one at a time on top of it. The combat in these games is like playing in the sandbox, you get a new tool and that allows you to create something more with your existing tools that you couldn't before. But if you can't use your basic tools well enough then adding more tools is just going to create difficulties. This is a gradual process and the developers expect that you do this over the course of MULTIPLE playthroughs hence why the game has 4 difficulties.
The game does have a training mode system where you can set the parameters yourself. You can make the enemy be actively attacking you or be completely passive.
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YODELING @ the fact Bayonetta 1 & 2 both reviewed way better, (90+ legend), she remains QUEEN of this genre and video games in general, it simply can't be denied end of sentence and a period.
Poor Dante.
Poor Dante.
Nah DMC fans and From Soft fans are partying together this March. It's everyone else that needs to watch out.
Which review really matters to you?
I liked eza guys when they used to review back in game trailers.
I liked eza guys when they used to review back in game trailers.
Japan is back guys, it's back in full force. I'm fucking crying.
Hahaha hell yeah!
Hahaha hell yeah!
One review mentioned ~20 hours give or take, but triple that if you are OCD and choose to master the game and it's various unlocked difficulties.