Why do you dislike combat arenas and linear level design? Linear design is a breath of fresh air nowadays and the combat arenas are only frustrating if you want to skip battles.
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Devil May Cry 5 Second Demo (PS4/X1): Up on Xbox/PSN now
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WRT to input lag, Chasertech was also talking about that on twitter
I love the boss fight design here. It's a big, basic dumb Ogre but the environment is constantly changing seamlessly. It's like that one DMC3 fight against that stupid horse where it starts on a bridge, then CUTSCENE, then you're in an arena. But done really well without the need to stop the flow of combat in the janky way done by other games.
I get what people are saying about linear design, but if the full game could have more dynamic combat arenas like that then that would be amazing. I haven't seen anything much like that in the trailers so far tho
I love the boss fight design here. It's a big, basic dumb Ogre but the environment is constantly changing seamlessly. It's like that one DMC3 fight against that stupid horse where it starts on a bridge, then CUTSCENE, then you're in an arena. But done really well without the need to stop the flow of combat in the janky way done by other games.
I get what people are saying about linear design, but if the full game could have more dynamic combat arenas like that then that would be amazing. I haven't seen anything much like that in the trailers so far tho
Don't worry just keep playing.
An amazing thing called muscle memory will kick in.
Funny thing is I was playing Kingdom Hearts before the dmc5 demo and I kept pressing O to jump. In that case, 20 hours of Kingdom Hearts overwrote 100s of hours of DMC 1-4 play.
Its pretty crazy how powerful muscle memory is when it comes to video games.
I 2nd that the shock claw/bomb arm is super lame compared to the laser/dodge and freaking ridable rocket launcher/punch arm, especially the regular attack, sure it hits hard but then it's just like okay sure whatever.
This is a great explanation. I'm a huge 3D Ninja Gaiden guy, so I dont mind a hard game. It's different than that though. Ninja Gaiden dial a combo allows you as the player to learn the enemies moves and tells while you do a combo appropriate for it.
DMC has always felt free flowing to me, and I like how different both games are. I want to get good at DMC. I didnt realize holding the lock on was such a key thing and that it allows the jump button to act so an evade move.
When locking on, is it a press once or do you have to hold the lock on? I'm going to experiment a lot with the demo before the retail version releases.
You have to hold lock on.
You can tell how much these guys have been playing the demo when they have 500K red orbs LOL!
I'm having so much fun with Gerbera. Mobility plus deflect just has me literally dancing in circles around the boss.
Someone else put it best: the main problem that arm has is that "Gerbera and Punchline extend fights; Overture ends them". And for a demo with already weak enemies, that doesn't give a lot of leeway to explore what Overture can do.
But I do like how it has context sensitive actions, like a pop-up on a downed enemy. Sounds like something that could compliment a Breaker layout that includes Buster if you just want want to deliver hard-hitting blows all day.
Well "weakest" in the sense it's the most limited options wise but you already know that speed runners going to abuse that the most since it shreds life bars.
Overture would see way more use if breaker switching was a thing. Its simply not cool enough to compete with a rocket you can glide on, and becoming a rocket yourself
Hell Prides died to three hits of Dante's Combo I in DMC3, but they still have a place on the higher difficulties to function as nuisances or cathartic relief depending on the enemy scenario. Not everything needs to be a lust or a sloth.
Just like 3D Zelda, you're going to be holding lock on 95% of the time. In Nero's case, Breakers force you to drop it to use them and there's some really fancy shit you can do in combos if you know when to drop lock-on (I.E. being able to Streak freely in any direction). With Dante you'll likely be leaning onto lock on even more since he doesn't have anything that requires him not to be locked on to something to execute, and V doesn't look that far off, either.
Unless Buster has Hold, I think it's going to be one of those either/or choices outside of boss fights. Buster can create opportunities for crowd control/wide area hit-stun, but Overture can be spammed on everything, its contextual Batteries make catching enemies with it so easy, and it can be jump cancelled.
Man seeing crazy punchline vids is making me dislike the breaker system more.
The entire time I'm thinking how nuts it would be if you could switch between punchline and gerbera on the fly, that would turn the game into zone of the enders or some shit, ground would never be touched again.
The entire time I'm thinking how nuts it would be if you could switch between punchline and gerbera on the fly, that would turn the game into zone of the enders or some shit, ground would never be touched again.
One thing I'm having trouble with is the arm being locked to Wire Snatch when you're locked on. Makes it difficult to weave arm moves in when you have to keep unlocking and locking back on.
I put lock-on onto a left shoulder button and make sure it's a hold versus a toggle
It doesn't solve the problem but it makes it easier
Before you do that though, just give it some time. You'll get used to going back and forth between wire snatch and basic devil breaker functions.
Yeah switching between breakers would be great. Is it confirmed that we won't be able to switch them?
Not for the campaign but in the Void you can switch by pressing L1. It "breaks" them in the animation but it doesn't actually break them as you can set the options to not break so what happens is that you just cycle to the next Breaker while retaining your previous one. There is also the assumption that with Super Nero you can retain this feature as well since that's usually happens with Super costumes, they give you unlimited everything.
Someone is gonna mod that in regular gameplay day 1 on PC if it works like you say.
It would be great to have the breakers as a switchable option. A bit like Bayos weapon system. Having 15 to play about with in different combinations that you can quickly switch between would massively increase gameplay potential. They should seriously consider having that as an option you can select on the equipment screen.
I also tell people think of Lock-On more as a move modifier, as opposed to an actual lock-on.
The soft auto lock system is good enough that you really don't need to be locked on to engage an enemy.
I feel that telling people that, conceptually makes them understand what's going on.
Lock-On is more of a Move Modifier button. Try training yourself that way and you'll develop muscle memory faster. Also, just stand in any given area and practice (R1+O), then O. Then do it again. R1+O, then O. You build that sort of rhythm down and you'll have it in no time.
The soft auto lock system is good enough that you really don't need to be locked on to engage an enemy.
I feel that telling people that, conceptually makes them understand what's going on.
Lock-On is more of a Move Modifier button. Try training yourself that way and you'll develop muscle memory faster. Also, just stand in any given area and practice (R1+O), then O. Then do it again. R1+O, then O. You build that sort of rhythm down and you'll have it in no time.
Much much better than 4. Very pleased. I still need to get used to the new battle mechanics. One thing I don't already like is the need of consumables. But I trust Itsuno. I don't want to play much though. I'll wait for the full game.
that was probably the first thing they considered...Itsuno isn't a moron, i'm sure there's a reason it is how it is. #trustitsuno
I can't wait for the full game just to start seeing combo videos, this is going to be so much fun.
Demo is great. I'm starting to ge the hang of it. Got As across the board last time, and for me that's an accomplishment.
How do you taunt? That increases your style score? Goliath barely touched me last time, and this coming from someone who barely got by him in my first play.
The full game is really going to be something.
Aye plus we have only seen 3 of the 15 breakers so we have no idea of how they might work together.
Touchpad and the the air taunt is actually an air dodge that you can also air rev off of and use as like a "triple" jump.
I know, but I'm still not sure if I will dig V to be honest. If Vergil is playable and one of the girls, I'm in.
Dante also needs like 5 or 6 cool melee weapons this time. I hate it when new weapons replace old ones. How many are there?
So far I know about his sword, nunchucks, gauntlets and boot combo and the hat, Have they confirmed more?
wow i played the demo like 50 times and i never knew air taunting rev gives you one meter instantly, game changer
it's honestly one of my favourite new additions
air taunt EX Act is dope and the fact that it works as a dodge too lets you pull off some cuhrayzee shit
Yes thx, forgot about that...looking good. Still hoping for some secret stuff.
They have said that Dante has more than the 8 or so weapons they have shown for him. And some new systems too that they aren't showing off yet.
So far Dante has: Rebellion/Sparda, Cerberus, Cavalliere (the bike), Balrog, Faust Hat, Kalina Ann, E&I and Shotgun. Faust Hat is not a melee devil arm, it's a fire arm.
They have confirmed hidden weapons as well. Honestly I am not worried about weapons in DMC5.
That's good to know, thx. I honestly don't care about the ranking in those games, I just want to mess with as many fun tools as possible. I don't even mind if the campaign is short as long as something like Blood Palace is in the game.
Rebellion
Sparda
Cerberus (Nunchucks, fire pole, electric chain)
Cavalier (Motorcycle mode and Chainsaw bike mode)
Balrog (Punch mode and kick mode)
Kalinna Ann 2
Faust
Ebony & Ivory
Coyote A shotgun
Itsuno essentially combined multiple weapons together to allow for the moveset of at least 13 weapons to be used at once. And that's what we know about.
If you're playing on PS4, push down on the touchpad located in the middle of the controller
If you're playing on Xbox, press the view button
It's mostly the same demo, with one new fight along the way, but now you can buy some upgrades with Red Orbs and there's a new Devil Breaker that's a lot of fun to play around with. Rocket skateboard arm, baby!
Worth it alone for the punch line, everyone is having fun with it.
Perfect!! Thanks man. Touchpad it is.If you're playing on PS4, push down on the touchpad located in the middle of the controller
If you're playing on Xbox, press the view button