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TreIII

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Would make perfect sense since this is supposed to be the end of the "Sons of Sparda" saga.
Is it?

That leaked "page"(?) states it is, but all the PR stuff just says it's "the next chapter".

Either way...I definitely hope it's after 2 for more reasons than one. First off, it's just been time to move things along and stop avoiding that part of the timeline. Secondly, it means if we get a "Ladies' Night" DLC with all the girls being added back in as playable, Lucia can join Trish and Lady at long last!
 

bunkitz

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Is it?

That leaked "page"(?) states it is, but all the PR stuff just says it's "the next chapter".

Either way...I definitely hope it's after 2 for more reasons than one. First off, it's just been time to move things along and stop avoiding that part of the timeline. Secondly, it means if we get a "Ladies' Night" DLC with all the girls being added back in as playable, Lucia can join Trish and Lady at long last!
Ah, you're right. My bad. It says "the stage is now set for the latest chapter of the "Sons of Sparda" saga" on the capcom-unity blog post, so that at least means it's the latest in the timeline?
 
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I definitely remember reading a press release yesterday where it was stated that this is the conclusion of the Sons of Sparda saga, they seem to have changed their mind?

This one:

Now, 10 years since the last iteration, Devil May Cry® 4, Director Hideaki Itsuno and the core team have reunited to conclude the long awaited Sons of Sparda saga.

http://digitalchumps.com/2018/06/10/dmc-5-announced/
 

Quacktion

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Yo Dante looks old and they mention in the story blurb that he went missing, does that mean we moving past DMC 2 finally?
 

TreIII

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I don't remember DMC2 ever being acknowledged as canon?

Like DmC I assume it exists in its own universe.
2 still is canon to the main continuity, circa the DMC 3 1 4 2 graphic arts book that was released a few years back.

It's just always been depicted as taking place at some point "in the future" of the series, so we don't know if it's possible that DMC5 finally moves on past it or not.
 

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2 still is canon to the main continuity, circa the DMC 3 1 4 2 graphic arts book that was released a few years back.

It's just always been depicted as taking place at some point "in the future" of the series, so we don't know if it's possible that DMC5 finally moves on past it or not.

Does it explicitly say it takes place in the future or did you come to that conclusion based on its presence in the art book?
 

Korigama

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DmC would have to be an alternate Earth entirely, since angels don't even exist in the central canon.

Unless of course the split happened in the primordial stages of creation.
Wasn't the Wing Talisman in DMC4 specified as having been made with a crystallized angel wing in its item description?

inb4 "But a lot of the bad guys thought of themselves as angels" (drawing a distinction between their insane rantings and how the game describes things here). It's a foregone conclusion that DmC has nothing to do with mainline DMC and never will either way.
 

TreIII

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Does it explicitly say it takes place in the future or did you come to that conclusion based on its presence in the art book?
The book does have a timeline. And considering Itsuno and co. did have their input with the text, it's basically the closest thing we got to a canonical text.

This same text was the one that finally confirmed Vergil is Nero's daddy, among other things.
 

BKatastrophe

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Wasn't the Wing Talisman in DMC4 specified as having been made with a crystallized angel wing in its item description?

inb4 "But a lot of the bad guys thought of themselves as angels" (drawing a distinction between their insane rantings and how the game describes things here). It's a foregone conclusion that DmC has nothing to do with mainline DMC and never will either way.
Oh yeah. Plus they had to have gotten the imagery from somewhere. Although there are those demons in DMC3 that are flying that look like angels. Plus Beowulf with his wings. So it's possible that it was just light element-based demons with wings.
 

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Oh yeah. Plus they had to have gotten the imagery from somewhere. Although there are those demons in DMC3 that are flying that look like angels. Plus Beowulf with his wings. So it's possible that it was just light element-based demons with wings.
Or, it's just a inconsistency. DMC games are never about the plot.

The few gameplay clips look good. Presentationwise, it looks like they're trying to imitate DmC. I'm not really into this, especially if they're going into a more story heavy route; heaven help us if we have a plot focused DMC game.
The demons look pretty gross this time around, and ehhhh, I don't play DMC games to be grossed out.
 

nded

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I'm pretty sure it's all demons. Just some of them might have a conscience like Sparda or are content to be worshipped by humans.
 

BKatastrophe

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A couple things:

-The voice of the massive demon boss we see in the trailer sounds just like Berial.
-I hope they simplify Dante a little bit. I realize one of the big positives about DMC4 is the sheer versatility of Dante, but he has way too much going on. I'd rather play literally any of the other characters. Call me a coward or tell me to get good or whatever, but Dante has so much shit going on in DMC4 it's ludicrous. I hope they tone him down a bit just make him a little easier to access.
 

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The womans voice was really off for me. Though I guess it was taken out of context in a lot of scenes. Also Nero looked... OLD. Still though the game looked amazing. Would have dug a younger looking main cast but very excited.
 

BKatastrophe

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So I can't stop watching the trailer. Everything is so great about it, but especially the animations. They're insane.

Also, the winged demon that fires a shitload of lasers at Nero is an amazing design.
 

bunkitz

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Has anyone else had a problem with using the DualShock 4 for the Steam version of DMC4SE? I was having some problems before where switching weapons (i.e. L2 and R2) wouldn't work like they're supposed to. Sometimes, the weapons would switch twice or not at all, rarely ever just once. I've been practicing executing Max-ACT tonight and I'm able to execute it less than half the time despite hitting it at the same time as when I do manage to get it right. I can't even do Ex-ACT most of the time because of this.

If anything, I guess this just tells me I should get DMC5 on the PS4 instead to avoid any possible complications like this. Would prefer playing on the couch anyway.
 

Nikus

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edit: nvm I didn't see there was a dedicated thread for the HD Collection, I'm gonna bump it.
 
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incneet

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Has anyone else had a problem with using the DualShock 4 for the Steam version of DMC4SE? I was having some problems before where switching weapons (i.e. L2 and R2) wouldn't work like they're supposed to. Sometimes, the weapons would switch twice or not at all, rarely ever just once. I've been practicing executing Max-ACT tonight and I'm able to execute it less than half the time despite hitting it at the same time as when I do manage to get it right. I can't even do Ex-ACT most of the time because of this.

If anything, I guess this just tells me I should get DMC5 on the PS4 instead to avoid any possible complications like this. Would prefer playing on the couch anyway.
Do u use ds4windows?
U need mark hide ds4 control in settings if u use ds4windows
 

incneet

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Has anyone else had a problem with using the DualShock 4 for the Steam version of DMC4SE? I was having some problems before where switching weapons (i.e. L2 and R2) wouldn't work like they're supposed to. Sometimes, the weapons would switch twice or not at all, rarely ever just once. I've been practicing executing Max-ACT tonight and I'm able to execute it less than half the time despite hitting it at the same time as when I do manage to get it right. I can't even do Ex-ACT most of the time because of this.

If anything, I guess this just tells me I should get DMC5 on the PS4 instead to avoid any possible complications like this. Would prefer playing on the couch anyway.
And this is for old games, i hame same problem, double clicks

https://github.com/Ryochan7/DS4Windows/issues/220#issuecomment-366597766
 

bunkitz

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Do u use ds4windows?
U need mark hide ds4 control in settings if u use ds4windows
Nah, Steam has DS4 support. I worked around it by mapping the weapon switch (and Exceed) to L1 and R1. I only need to hold the lock-on, so having that on R2 is fine. It feels weird and cumbersome, but I'm getting used to it. Appreciate the reply, though!
 

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Is there any difference between the digital and physical versions of DmC Definitive Edition (PS4)? I remember the game being pretty buggy at release. Have the bugs been fixed?
 

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I liked the DMC 5 trailer and have been meaning to get into the series for some time. I bought the collection and dmc4 and started 1 a few days ago.

Man that camera, it can mess you up something fierce. It's crazy to think how this started as an RE title and it shows. I like the look of the castle and it's got some good atmosphere. Story is ehhh so far but that fine as the gameplay is still somewhat fun.

It's kind of hard (that first spider boss was a make or break for me as everyone else has been way easier). I'm up to chapter 10 or so having just got the second weapon. Haven't bought any skills and I got about 5000 orbs I think. What would you guys and gals recommend?
 
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Dahbomb

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With 5000 orbs you should definitely invest in Air Hike if you haven't done so already. I would try to get Alastor maxed out on everything except Round Trip, then start working on Ifrit.
 

OniBaka

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I'll say below, not sure if air hike was as important in this.

Stinger
Air Raid
Magma Drive
Kick 13
 

Grisby

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Thanks fellas. I/m on mission 17 now closing in on the end of the game I think. Shit's been kind of hard thanks to the camera angles.
 

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No real reveal, but if the quality is good get your wallet ready TO BE STYLED ON!!!
 
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bunkitz

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Well this is just rude.


I legit want them to be a family again, but yeah that's never gonna happen...
 
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Is there any difference between the digital and physical versions of DmC Definitive Edition (PS4)? I remember the game being pretty buggy at release. Have the bugs been fixed?
There's no difference in content or perfomance I've heard. It's not 100% technically perfect, but it is much better than vanilla version.

Also, can I get an invite to the Discord DMC Era server? not sure who to ask...
 

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The people that migrated from Neogaf. Do you guys remember who was the dude that made a thread on Gaf saying how he would tweak DMC1 and had a list, the dude had a Vergil avatar and was a hardcore fan of the series (sorry you all blend together).
If any of you have a link to thread or the username of the guy who made it, that would be cool.
 
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The people that migrated from Neogaf. Do you guys remember who was the dude that made a thread on Gaf saying how he would tweak DMC1 and had a list, the dude had a Vergil avatar and was a hardcore fan of the series (sorry you all blend together).
If any of you have a link to thread or the username of the guy who made it, that would be cool.
That was probably me. I think I made a DMC1 remake thread on Resetera as well.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/remaking-the-original-devil-may-cry-is-a-very-difficult-task.29381/

Though this thread addresses the challenges of remaking DMC1. As far as personal tweaks I would make to a DMC1 remake, well that's a different story.
 

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Ah it was an Era, was looking for the thread on Gaf but I couldn't find it. For some reason I remembered the thread being like 6 pages long. Thanks though.
 
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Dahbomb

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I would also add that in a post DMC5 world, I would make some further suggestions/changes that are more line with DMC5. Like everywhere I say stuff like "yea the camera/control should be more like DmC DE" it's actually more accurate to say DMC5 instead but at that time I only had DmC DE as a close enough reference.
 

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Pretty much agreed with all of your points. If the game is ever remade the camera and level design need to be reworked. The under water section and final boss need to be reworked as well, and it needs more bosses and melee weapons for Dante. And obviously style changes and the combat to fit the more modern feel.

I was mostly interested in how the dmc community in the the general section(main forum) side would react/what their reception would be if someone other than me would have pointed it out. Haha.
 
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Well difference is that I still think DMC1 is a classic game so I am coming from that frame of mind. I just think a 1:1 remake wouldn't go over well at all in a post DMC5 world. Even RE has removed fixed camera angles now for the most part.
 
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Well difference is that I still think DMC1 is a classic game so I am coming from that frame of mind. I just think a 1:1 remake wouldn't go over well at all in a post DMC5 world. Even RE has removed fixed camera angles now for the most part.

DMC1 still holds up IMO just not in the meta game that developed as the series went on and definitely feels a lot simpler now, but I wouldn't call that a bad thing.

I do agree however that if it were to ever get remade than the REmake or even REmake 2 treatment would be preferable. Maybe even rework things to have a Trish boss fight, that's one that pops up in my head.
 

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Camera, Platforming, Yellow Orbs automatically consumed without choice, Slow weapon switching, disappointing final boss fight... Other than those DMC1 doesn't need that much of a drastic revamp.

And among those it's really the problematic platforming thanks to the camera that is detrimental to the experience.
 

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Latest news thread.

The game needs a ReMake 2 treatment, anything other than that would be disappointing. And to add to all of that I would remove Nightmare and replace him with some other boss. Nightmare is pretty terrible.
 

Mr. X

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I'll say it here then.

With multiplayer announced, I think (no support) they'll be 6 characters.

Nero
Dante
V
Trish
Lady
Vergil

The latter 3 being more or less DMC4 versions.
Shot in the dark, V might have some of the fun stuff of DmC Dante/Vergil.