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Devotion (Taiwan top-selling indie horror) getting review bombed by CN players for hidden easter egg reads "Xi Jinping Winnie the Pooh Moron"
- Thread starter vinnykappa
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Gone from Steam, it seeems.
They delisted it, but the OST is still up?
Gone from Steam, it seeems.
Nooo.
They could have released a patch that removes that easter egg.
They did I think. It didn't stop the fallout.
This is such a goddamn shame.
WTF, I bought Devotion last Friday and I just recent played it yesterday!
Gone from Steam, it seeems.
WTF?
Just release the game on consoles and don't bother chinese users at this point. I wanted to play it!
Also their website has been down for days.
https://redcandlegames.com
You know how in the states there are people here who will supppet trump no matter what he does and there are people online who be over every late night comedian's video whenever they talk about trump to try and make them seem like the bad guy? It isnt a american exclusive thing
Gone from Steam, it seeems.
Jesus. This is fucked, man - that is an ugly level of censorship.
Fucking knew it. China went all the way and must've bullied Valve by threatening to ban the whole platform of Steam. I knew they would. I was so afraid of that.
Thank Christ I bought it while I could.
Thank Christ I bought it while I could.
I never knew about the Pooh memes because until this thread.
So...is KH series banned there cus of Pooh?
This is really sad and messed up. Have there been any examples of devs being bullied like this and it working?
Red Candle made a official statement on their Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/redcandlegames/posts/2017918808510070
Here is my translation into English
1. The current stuff on the internet include
1. Inflate total sale numb
2. People guessing on the "plot" of the game
3. People pretending to be official source and edited screenshot
Red Candle now state that those are not accurate, all official news and information will be released through Red Candle Facebook and Steam page to prevent bad information, (Our Weibo<China facebook> have been shut down, but we are in discussion with them to reopen to give correct information to all p layer)
2. Devotion is a game that is based on the victem of a cult, and fatherly love causing tragedy.
The art asset that causes the problem is a mistake on all th e team, as a game developer, this is very unprofessional, it has no underlying meaning or mean to insulte real people, please do not conflate those into the plot of the game.
3. As a game company, Red Candle only want to provide gameplayer with memoriable and fun game experience, but this mistake disappointed all of game player, and insulted alot of people, we are very pained this occured, and is not the goal of Red candle.
So just to repeat, this very serious mistake is not the fault of our partner, Red Candle is responsible for all of it, and we will not run from it, but please do not blame or hurt our partner
4. We hope that people will put the focus on the plot of the game, and hope that people will get the full experience with it, since the art aset is not related to the game or plot, it is a mistake and not the goal of Red Candle.
5.The current situation is in negociation/arbitration at this time, we hope that the media, gamer and other will give us time to sort this out, and that will be the biggest support for us.
Red Candle Studio
Name of the founder, etc.
https://www.facebook.com/redcandlegames/posts/2017918808510070
Here is my translation into English
1. The current stuff on the internet include
1. Inflate total sale numb
2. People guessing on the "plot" of the game
3. People pretending to be official source and edited screenshot
Red Candle now state that those are not accurate, all official news and information will be released through Red Candle Facebook and Steam page to prevent bad information, (Our Weibo<China facebook> have been shut down, but we are in discussion with them to reopen to give correct information to all p layer)
2. Devotion is a game that is based on the victem of a cult, and fatherly love causing tragedy.
The art asset that causes the problem is a mistake on all th e team, as a game developer, this is very unprofessional, it has no underlying meaning or mean to insulte real people, please do not conflate those into the plot of the game.
3. As a game company, Red Candle only want to provide gameplayer with memoriable and fun game experience, but this mistake disappointed all of game player, and insulted alot of people, we are very pained this occured, and is not the goal of Red candle.
So just to repeat, this very serious mistake is not the fault of our partner, Red Candle is responsible for all of it, and we will not run from it, but please do not blame or hurt our partner
4. We hope that people will put the focus on the plot of the game, and hope that people will get the full experience with it, since the art aset is not related to the game or plot, it is a mistake and not the goal of Red Candle.
5.The current situation is in negociation/arbitration at this time, we hope that the media, gamer and other will give us time to sort this out, and that will be the biggest support for us.
Red Candle Studio
Name of the founder, etc.
No it isn't. Their statement would be along the lines of "Don't ask us, we had nothing to do with it".
It is due to publisher contracts being terminated.
Oh fuck, I can't believe it goes this ugly, simply disgusting. As much as I tried to explain Chinese gamers' hopeless struggling, Red Candle did nothing wrong, it is their natural right on their land and the game itself is fucking great.
Damn it further confirms that Chinese gaming industry will not revive till a better environment comes. I hope Red Candle can recover from this devastating consequence.
Guys just buy the game when it's back, we need help them.
Damn it further confirms that Chinese gaming industry will not revive till a better environment comes. I hope Red Candle can recover from this devastating consequence.
Guys just buy the game when it's back, we need help them.
Mate, I appreciate your appreciation and respect that you know what's exactly going on unlike some stupid posts knowing nothing but pretending wise and talking my people.
But again at this gaming forum all I care is the well being of the developer. My stance is actually with the xiaomi fellow. I hope west players can find the game appealing and support red candle going through this.
Gone from Steam, it seeems.
Welp, can't say I'm surprised.
Cool post. I have no idea what issue you take with my stance that Red Candle are being treated unfairly (it seems like you agree) but go ahead and keep equivocating.
The developer is certainly being treated unfairly.
On the other hand, China is a country where your jail sentence for a Weibo/qq post may depend on number of forwards and your credit score may be impacted because you friend wrong people on social media.
You have to anticipate certain situations when dealing with China as unfortunate as it is. Before Xi came to power things were more relaxed. Now days though Winnie the Pooh don't mess around.
I can appreciate your point and the legal culpability of the artist who hid that asset in the game, but I feel the response of the public should be more compassionate to the devs than "Well, that's China for you."
Valve, to their credit, did not remove the game. It seems Red Candle have removed it themselves as part of either changing some assets to correct a misinterpretation of the narrative (many mainland players are interpreting "Land's Heart," the name of an occult superstition in the game, to mean "Mainlanders' Heart," which doesn't appear to be the dev's original intention), or as part of arbitration in the legal case they're going through with their Chinese publisher.
You know, as much as I think the Chinese are overreacting to this. I don't see how the dev could possibly think calling Xi Jinping a moron in an easter egg (basically stating that that is what the devs think of him rather than a character in the game or something) would have absolutely no consequences.
From the very beginning I have been no less pissed than you for the developer being treated unfairly. It's just not like I can talk these topics as audaciously as you did , so yeah, I'll keep equivocally be with you, lol.
You would be right if it were a deliberate provocation, but everything seems to indicate they didn't know it was in there. It's not even clear that the level artist who placed that asset was aware of it, only that whoever made the poster had done it as a joke that probably would not fly with the project leads given the serious nature of the game's narrative. When they found out they instantly removed it and apologized. The dev's previous game has more anti-mainland sentiment as it is highly critical of the mainland culture brought to Taiwan by the KMT, but because it didn't get an official release and didn't insult the current leadership of the mainland, it managed to squeak by.
sxiebonjour said:
Sorry, I was not clear. "Equivocating" means being deliberately vague in your arguments as to hide your real opinions. I respect that you don't want to argue as "audaciously" as I do, but I don't really mince words about this sort of thing. I gotta live here and see my friends and colleagues bullied by the mainland's reactions to Taiwanese success all the time. It gets old.
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Except the art asset didn't state he's a moron.
It's two seperate meme/joke in the talisman.
First one is XiJinPing is Winnie the Pooh
And the second one is a sound based joke that if you say it out it say your mom is an idiot, a varation on the various your mama joke from western media.
What are the chances of this dieing down when the game returns with the art in question removed? Hopefully this leads to more people outside of China picking this game up now after this but I am curious if the bridge is burned with China.
With how the Huawei issue is being played out with Canada and China I feel like I probably have my answer but still I hope maybe this works out for them either from getting the boot off their neck or from more people buying this game from the press coverage of this incident.
With how the Huawei issue is being played out with Canada and China I feel like I probably have my answer but still I hope maybe this works out for them either from getting the boot off their neck or from more people buying this game from the press coverage of this incident.
Hey if it's an accident that's fine. But I can't exactly blame China for wanting to have it removed then. Of course review bombing the game is really immature and a bit weird seeing as it wasn't them that was insulted but I can't really say I expected different from China.
I not sure when you talk bully you mean online attack or in reality. Cause IRL I never felt the hostile towards each other, at least where I live in the states.
If it is in real life , I feel bad about that and advocate you fight back the bullies;
While online unfortunately not like there is much we can do to stop the shitstorm, being aggressive isn't really helping, in fact you might just scare off people that share the same thoughts. I say don't let random guys on the internet concern you.
