Which is pretty funny because MS were the ones who actually demoed ine of the first features of ssd other than bare bone loading speed.
They demoed quick resume. Anyone know if ps5 announced an equivalent?
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Which is pretty funny because MS were the ones who actually demoed ine of the first features of ssd other than bare bone loading speed.
They demoed quick resume. Anyone know if ps5 announced an equivalent?
PS4 Pro had tons of compromises so not sure about that.
That's the whole point, you don't know what you are comparing.
My only big disappointment is that we have a PS2 and PS3 library that cant be played on the PS5. Ugh
Is the SSD the Cell of this generation?
In that they over engineered it at the expense of raw power.
In that they over engineered it at the expense of raw power.
Third party games will definetly shine more on the Xbox Series X
Like the Cell it wont mean shit for cross platform games especially ones with PC ports. Will be great for first party or exclusives.
Ugh.... yikes.
They couldn't even put their PS1/2 software emulator in that thing. Disappointing.
The series X is still more powerful in everything else and gamers will notice that too.
This is going to be interesting
The way I see it is that any game can scale to use more GPU/CPU/RAM, but only certain games can benefit from an insanely fast SSD.
A game like RE7 where you're walking around a house only has so many things that need to be quickly loaded in. The Xbox SSD is already really fast as it stands.
The big use case seems to be open world games where you move really fast (Spider-man, GTA).
A game like RE7 where you're walking around a house only has so many things that need to be quickly loaded in. The Xbox SSD is already really fast as it stands.
The big use case seems to be open world games where you move really fast (Spider-man, GTA).
lol no, this will make development easier not ridiculously difficult.
Why is this announcement relevant in this thread. This is getting out of control.
That sounds about right.
I fail to see how MS' 50x faster I/o SSD to RAM is not enough for streaming anything you want at any given time that would actually make you think 'you know what, this is not acceptable, we need twice that'.
Series X faster 10gb RAM pool and sustained 4.8gb/s ssd read speeds seem pretty practical to me.
It's probably going to be castrated on the PS5. If the 1TB in the Xbox is only enough for them to save five games, assuming no more than 150-200 GB system reserved making the usable user space less than 750GB, imagine when they only have 825GB x .93 = 767GB to start with.
How much can they really reserve before the public complains? 100GB?
Lol love it, so much secret SSD sauce right now.. Apparently that's the real game changer, never mind that both consoles got one..
All the talk about MS new API and the "Velocity architecture" is not anywhere to be seen, we'll see if they respond to this in the coming days.
All the talk about MS new API and the "Velocity architecture" is not anywhere to be seen, we'll see if they respond to this in the coming days.
As others have echoed, the crazy fast ssd will probably only be fully utilized in 1st party/exclusive games. 3rd party will still need to design around slower storage, and the Xbox will likely have a performance/resolution advantage in those games over the PS5.
It's wccftech, they produce garbage consistently making articles on assumptions and thin air.
Lol no. Absolutely not.
Xbox One X has Dolby Atmos which PS4 doesn't have and Xbox Series X has 3D audio like PS5 does, so it's not like MS doesn't have "real focus" on audio side. They absolutely do.
Sony sacrificed everything else for this SSD. My point still stands, Sony dropped the ball.
Can someone explain how a faster hard drive will help with anything besides loading times?
Will the relatively slow speed of the series x hard drive be some bif bottleneck compared to the PS5?
Will the relatively slow speed of the series x hard drive be some bif bottleneck compared to the PS5?
the 'gloom' is on Reddit, Yotube and Twitter too.
There definitely isn't the same buzz that was around even when the logo was shown.
I'm day 1 on PS5 but it's not great that it feels like people are doing damage control or assuring others it'll all come together eventually.
Sony had THE perfect marketing blueprint for this gen, and it included showing games very early on that were dazzling.
I hope we get that hype again.
They're devs, actually working with the console.
What do they know???? What makes their opinion better than ours ???
It will allow games to load in far more assets at any one time, or in one's immediate field of vision in a game, irrespective of your velocity or the density/size of the game world or assets (within reason).
Guerilla Games mentioned that they couldn't include flight in HZD at the fidelity they had their game world, due to streaming speeds, this set up would completely remedy that.
Same with with Spider-Mans velocity or speed correlating to the density and fidelity of the city.
Basically, devs are going to be able to stream in shit loads of data at any given time on the fly.
It was a snooze fest so I guess I'll wait for DF or someone else that can actually explain it instead of continuing to avoid addressing it.
the major shift with SSDs will be towards streaming engines. Meaning the field of view and a little bit of space around it will fill a lot of the Ram. When you turn outside of the loaded fov area, the game will load the new assets in dynamically from the SSD just before you see it.
With 2x the Ssd speed there can be more Ram resources (assets, textures etc) placed in the FOV and less of those things in pre-loaded into the Ram as a buffer in case they are needed. A faster SSD gives more allowance for how much can be streamed into the game on demand.
In short, the game world can be more dense and you can move faster through it even with the same amount of Ram.
Sales prediction on their minds, maybe.
First Titanfall was exclusive because of that.
In what way? Some of yall legit acting like most 3rd party games are going to be night and day between these two consoles when more than likely the differences will be marginal to the average consumer.
Both consoles will look and run amazing and it's going to come down to the First Party as usual to show off the systems power.
They're saying this is essentially the same as the DS4 touchpad, which cross platform titles never utilized whatsoever since no other platform used that control surface.
I think that's a false equivalency though since even games that aren't designed around the faster SSD speeds will benefit from them, while exclusive titles built from the ground up with these speeds mind could potentially usher in a paradigm shift in how developers think about streaming assets during gameplay.
All this brave new world shit while only a safrificing a couple flops I'd say is worth it.
I think that's a false equivalency though since even games that aren't designed around the faster SSD speeds will benefit from them, while exclusive titles built from the ground up with these speeds mind could potentially usher in a paradigm shift in how developers think about streaming assets during gameplay.
All this brave new world shit while only a safrificing a couple flops I'd say is worth it.
A lot more clock speeds than that. Handheld mode has at least 3 unique GPU clockspeeds.
Then there's the temporary CPU boost for se games like botw, Odyssey etc to boost load times.
Then there's the temporary CPU boost for se games like botw, Odyssey etc to boost load times.
That Brave New World shit?
The XSX will be able to do that also more or less... Again, X ain't rocking a 5400 RPM hd.
I am excited for the PS5 though.
Because I'll tell you. The simple fact that the PS5 doesn't have as many TF's, stronger CPU and GPU it's deemed a "shit" system and a "disaster" and this is something to just thread into the narrative as a negative. People really have no idea what they are talking about.
I can't wait for games to be shown on both systems so it'll be seen that both consoles will be a beast.
Lmfao, you make a good point though. Mind you, this is the same argument people made about Lockhart and the fact series x games can still be played on the original Xbox one. Everything is going to be held back the first few years - Xbox included. First parties will be the best to see improvements
Not so sure about that. People expected thesame with the Xbox one x - and constantly we get games that perform WORST on the one x. The power gap is reportedly even smaller with the series x and ps5
The weaker everything, in all honesty.
Except for the SSD. Can't forget the most important spec!
If devs have been asking for it specifically and saying it's the most exciting thing in 20 years, I'm glad PS5 went above and beyond. I assume it's something that might get put to some use. I guess we'll see.
The pivoting that everyone is doing on this SSD is very entertaining, there literally is no one excited about a SDD in the gaming world bar a few developers and fanbois that are propping this up like its going to power the whole generation. I guess this is the consoles only saving grace so you got to shill for something, but my god is it niche and minuscule, we are literally talking about shaving of SECONDS in loading and assets loading's which are already insanely fast on NVME drives.
It is a unnecessary overkill that will only cost consumers money as those SSD's are going to be stupid expensive when they release on PC to meet the requirements Sony's has set. All that mocking and moaning about the XSX proprietary memory card and how it will be very expensive, yet not a single peep from anyone here about the issue PS5 is going to run in.
More powerful unit with more RT ability or saving 3/4 seconds on loading this seems like a hard decision.
It is a unnecessary overkill that will only cost consumers money as those SSD's are going to be stupid expensive when they release on PC to meet the requirements Sony's has set. All that mocking and moaning about the XSX proprietary memory card and how it will be very expensive, yet not a single peep from anyone here about the issue PS5 is going to run in.
More powerful unit with more RT ability or saving 3/4 seconds on loading this seems like a hard decision.
Right so Mark Cerny travelled around the world and met with a hundred or so developers and based on their feedback decided to design this 5.5GB/s SSD. And no one is going to really use that outside first party? Bullshit.
The whole console is designed with developer input, variable frequencies and all. The one thing he mentioned was a Sony leap was the 3D audio.
The whole console is designed with developer input, variable frequencies and all. The one thing he mentioned was a Sony leap was the 3D audio.
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It's not that different than Windows hibernate mode so you'd only need to save the amount of RAM to disk that the game is using at the time you suspended it.
I'd bet on it. It seems like the same strategy they had with the PS4 Pro; make it as good of an upgrade it can be without going over the critical $400. If they go over price, it's going to lose any real marketing edge.
Exactly. Plenty of armchair developers in here think they know better which I doubt. Mark cerny knows his shit and listened to the devs. Cmon now lll
