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DICE Celebrates Battlefield V's Launch With #EveryonesBattlefield, r/Battlefields Goes Up In Flames
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I exclusively play as a woman in this game just because of the reaction from alt-right fuckfaces like those listed in the OP. Because you know these people still bought the game and play it every day.
Join the sub r/BattlefieldV
It's specifically for BFV fans and they despise the people crying about this stuff
It's specifically for BFV fans and they despise the people crying about this stuff
The conversation isnt even about the game. It has turned into a proxy for a culture war about whether or not females/gays/blacks and others should be represented proportionately in media. And in that sense, BF5 is probably a below average annualized cash grab EA game with pretty graphics, but i would double down on not letting hate act like it is the 'voice' for the gaming community.
Where are the youtubers complaining about the gaming communities garbage responses to these types of things? Only one i ever saw was Joe and he got made a pariah so hard he had to stop talking about it
Where are the youtubers complaining about the gaming communities garbage responses to these types of things? Only one i ever saw was Joe and he got made a pariah so hard he had to stop talking about it
It's a shame the game itself is so bad. I played it through a free origin access trial and even then I didn't enjoy it despite playing it for free.
I absolutely despise everything EA has released this decade (yep henry hatsworth was 2009) but I feel like rewarding EA for this....
Is there anything that they released that was worth playing that's closer to what was designed without the expectation that I have to spend my salary on MTx or alternatively entirely single player?
Is there anything that they released that was worth playing that's closer to what was designed without the expectation that I have to spend my salary on MTx or alternatively entirely single player?
I really hope the next BF is set in modern times or in the future. I want to give DICE my money because of how it handle this situation. Beautiful.
Also if capital-G, Gamers want realism and historical accuracy, then the entire game should be 1 life. You only have one shot in this $60 game.
Also if capital-G, Gamers want realism and historical accuracy, then the entire game should be 1 life. You only have one shot in this $60 game.
Shrewd and intelligent business decision by EA. This will pay out boatloads in goodwill if not sales.
Yup. In addition to the disgustigness of all this, this seems to be a case-in-point example of how dumb "containment theory" is, because there's nothing actually keeping those people contained, and surprise, they also hang out in and even get mod status in other subreddits! There's nothing actually keeping them "contained" at all, and so of course stuff like this happens.
Anyone antagonized by inclusion should take a long walk off a short pier.
Not gonna lie, your games had more than questionable design choices in the past but this is definitely not one of them. Glad to hear that everyone in your studio is holding out. You will be on the right side of history eventually. Well maybe not with the women in WW2 thing but with the women in games in 2018 thing. You know what I mean...
Let's just hope the people in charge at EA don't have a differing opinion on that.
I applaud you guys.
This sexist shit is worth calling out.
Its just a game..........To normal people.
Big ups to that mod team for taking a stand against the vocal hate groups that push people away from games. They are volunteers and clearly give a shit far beyond the expectation of being a discussions janitor, but to then also deal with administration & an organized hate force is admirable.
Thankfully, the data shows (and given I used to work there on the team that measured this shit) that these hate groups are still very much in a losing battle, and EA knows that this tactic isn't just the morally right thing to do, but it also makes insanely better sense short and long term for their business. They've seen MANY large outcries in the past (some of them legit, some of them not so much), and are well equipped to see past the hate brigades and empower the players, content creators, fans and people that might become fans one day.
We all can and should do more, but I'm legit impressed how EA is doing right about this specific issue.
Thankfully, the data shows (and given I used to work there on the team that measured this shit) that these hate groups are still very much in a losing battle, and EA knows that this tactic isn't just the morally right thing to do, but it also makes insanely better sense short and long term for their business. They've seen MANY large outcries in the past (some of them legit, some of them not so much), and are well equipped to see past the hate brigades and empower the players, content creators, fans and people that might become fans one day.
We all can and should do more, but I'm legit impressed how EA is doing right about this specific issue.
Gamers are a fucking embarrassment, how did it get this bad? God this is so depressing. Imagine screeching to the heavens because a video game just gives you THE OPTION to play as something other than a white guy. Imagine thinking the developers taking some creative freedom with a WW2 video game means they're rewriting history. Good lord.
I don't play BF and I think the last game your studio made that I played was Mirror's Edge (fantastic btw).
I'm so far from being your audience it's not even funny, it's your studio's behavior in these times that make me think that the industry is not entirely rotten to the point of needing to be burned to the ground, after the 2014's events I had little faith EA wouldn't back down.
Seriously kudos.
It's an FPS that previously had an emphasis on "historical accuracy."
Perfect media for the alt-right and other assholes to circle the wagons around.
It never has been or was - this is just a brigade of people that so happen to all the sudden be Long Time Fans Concerned With The Progressive Direction The Franchise Is Taking, much like other games who make slight shifts. It's annoying & would be much better if anyone didn't have to deal with hate groups, but in 2018 most major gaming companies are pretty well equipped to detect, measure & act upon valid criticisms and concerned fans vs hate brigades.
If anything, I'm guessing devs & actual fans of that franchise would appreciate it if you don't lump them in with those buttholes, since that's often as demoralizing as the ill-informed critics that started the assumption.
It's more like this whole thing was a convinient thing for those alt right vultures to jump at. I believe that despite all the swastika emblems made by players you can encounter in these games the vast mayority of players is actually fine with that.
Please don't see it as a personal attack, but I'm curious, doesn't Riot still have similiar problems with mysogyny and the likes in their leadership or did things change there since all the bad press that happened a few years ago?
Don't want to derail the thread, but also don't want to duck a valid question/criticism, even though I don't think my answer is as satisfactory as I aspire for it to be (personal stance, not voice of Riot etc etc):
Put simply: IMO we are more aware, things are being done and have been done, but it's up for us to prove what's changed moreso than it is for anyone at Riot to say what's changing. I think the industry at large & Riot in particular is obligated to do vastly more to change, both internally and externally. I'd rather us earn the trust & be hyper vigilant towards gaining it than telling people they should trust, kinda like in how EA has walked the walk on their BF5 positioning.
Why bring white people into this? You think its just white people?
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Its a quote from Riot games.
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You're right, that answer wasn't wholly satisfactory. :P
But it's good to hear that things really seem to change for the better, even if it's a slow change.
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It's a reference to Riot Games. They're currently involved in a lawsuit involving gender discrimination
I bought the game without knowing any of the political bullshit backstory and so far I've loved it. Reddit can be a cesspool at times, particularly some subreddits. If people don't like it, don't buy the game. That simple. Attacking DICE and EA for promoting inclusion and diversity, even if it makes a game less "historically accurate" is about the most inane thing I've ever heard. Boy, we're sure making this country great again, aren't we kids? Everyone hates eachother and can't seem to go five minutes without bitching about one thing or another. </rant>
You know you're on the right track when degenerates like that throw shrieking tantrums in response. Keep it up :D
Stay strong :) you are fighting the good fight.
Plus, the game is amazing, currently playing on PC with Premier but will buy it on Xbox as well.
"My historical accuracy" luckily doesn't fool anyone anymore. They're incels and sexists. All there is to it.
"We live together" when actually living rent free at his girlfriends place.
Always hilarious. I know someone who's boyfriend does this.
Keep up the good work, really. As I already said in the thread, what you folks (and EA) have done made me finally download Origin. I'll look into that Origin Access thing and if it's just possible with my PC, I'll give BF a go first time in my life.
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