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Ah yes, just what the 2020 primary needs. A candidate brave enough to hate gay people and stand up for important issues like making sure Hawaii high schools don't teach about any historical gay people because it might turn the students gay.
 

louisacommie

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New Jersey
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Primus

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Oh god, this train wreck is actually happening.

Buckle in, kids, this ride is going to be wild.
 

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Tulsi Gabbard said she'll run for President in 2020.

Tulsi Gabbard said she'll run for President in 2020.

Tulsi Gabbard said she'll run for President in 2020.
 

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What is everyones favorite quote of Tulsi in her public life as an elected official? Mine is:

"As Democrats, we should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists."
 

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Oh man, I remember people saying she was the best candidate for 2020.
 

Primus

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On the positive side, at least she's deciding to commit political suicide early, and we can replace her with someone with less mouldering skeletons in her closet.
 

Steel

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Whelp. I can officially say there's a candidate I like least in the running.
 

Steel

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But, hey, she's got lefty cred! She's definitely not establishment!

That's supposed to be a good thing, right?
 
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Since we like Jacobin around here now:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/tulsi-gabbard-president-sanders-democratic-party

Yet the starry-eyed anointment of Gabbard has obscured the more unsavory aspects of her politics — so unsavory, in fact, that White House adviser Steve Bannon has reportedly spoken well of her. From her vigorous opposition to the Iran nuclear deal to her obsession with "radical Islam" to her love for the far-right Indian leader Narendra Modi, Gabbard is far from the progressive hero many assume her to be.

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Despite her progressive image today, Gabbard has conservative roots. Her father is Mike Gabbard, a former Honolulu city councilman, state senator, and high profile anti-gay activist who led a campaign against same-sex marriage in Hawaii in the 1990s. He founded the educational nonprofit Stop Promoting Homosexuality and bought himself a show on a local radio station to denounce LGBT people.

Early in her career, Gabbard took after her father. She opposed abortion and supported a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman. After Honolulu Magazine emailed her father to ask about his former ties to a conservative Hare Krishna splinter group for a 2004 profile, it was Gabbard who replied angrily, accusing the magazine of "acting as a conduit for The Honolulu Weekly and other homosexual extremist supporters of Ed Case [her father's opponent]." The same year, she used her platform as a state representative to testify against civil unions, calling the claim that they were different from same-sex marriage "dishonest, cowardly, and extremely disrespectful to the people of Hawaii," who had voted in favor of Constitutional Amendment 2 in 1998, empowering the legislature to withhold marriage from same-sex couples.

"As Democrats, we should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists," she said at the time.

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When questioned why the LGBT caucus, which had actually supported her three years earlier, had turned against her, the chairman cited two things. One was her less-than-stellar answers to a questionnaire the LGBT Caucus had sent. The other was a 2015 interview with Ozy, in which she confirmed that her personal views on gay marriage and abortion hadn't changed, just her view on whether the government should enforce its vision of morality.

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It is nationalism in antiwar garb, reinforcing instead of undercutting the toxic rhetoric that treats foreigners as less deserving of dignity than Americans. (Gabbard's brand of anti-interventionism has even received praise from former KKK grand wizard David Duke, who called for her to be named secretary of state.)

And it still produces its fair share of bloodshed. Like campaign-era Trump, Gabbard may be against miring the United States in blunderous, short-sighted conflicts that backfire, but she's more than willing to use America's military might to go after suspected terrorists around the world (and inevitably kill and maim civilians in the process). In the same Truthout interview, responding to a question about drones, Gabbard said that "there is a place for the use of this technology, as well as smaller, quick-strike special force teams versus tens, if not hundreds of thousands of soldiers occupying space within a country."

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"In short, when it comes to the war against terrorists, I'm a hawk," she told the Hawaii Tribune-Herald last year. "When it comes to counterproductive wars of regime change, I'm a dove."

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In the wake of the Charlie Hebdo shootings in January 2015, Gabbard complained on Fox News that by "not using this term 'Islamic extremism' and clearly identifying our enemies," the administration couldn't "come up with a very effective strategy to defeat that enemy." She told Neil Cavuto that "this isn't about one specific group," but about "this radical Islamic ideology that is fueling this," and that it needed to be defeated "militarily and ideologically." She characterized Obama's refusal to "recognize" the enemy as "mind-boggling" and "troubling."

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Before that, in 2014, Gabbard introduced a bill that would have halted the visa waiver program for countries whose citizens had gone to fight with extremists, claiming that the program "puts the American people in danger." Had it passed, people from the UK, France, Germany, and many other European countries would have been forced to apply for visas before visiting the United States.

I could go on.
 
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The only reason why she might get knocked out early despite caping for Assad and being a homophobe is because she is a "she" and Americans have a nasty attitude toward female politicians in general (ranging from the current crop of AOC attacks to the pre-2016 election televised attitude of many older people in and around bible belt that saw a "woman" being unfit to lead a country).
 

Joe

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She's a fool if she thinks that the crowd that grew warm to her when she endorsed Sanders is going to stick with her now that she'll be judged removed from that context.
 

Steel

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The only reason why she might get knocked out early despite caping for Assad and being a homophobe is because she is a "she" and Americans have a nasty attitude toward female politicians in general (ranging from the current crop of AOC attacks to the pre-2016 election televised attitude of many older people in and around bible belt that saw a "woman" being unfit to lead a country).
Harris has a real shot at clenching the primaries. She won't be getting knocked out of the democratic primaries for being female.
 

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She's a fool if she thinks that the crowd that grew warm to her when she endorsed Sanders is going to stick with her now that she'll be judged removed from that context.
Yeah, I mean without the Sanders fan support getting excited because you endorsed him early you just have a really out of touch Democrat who hates muslims with a strong neocon pro-war streak who reeeeeeeally hates gay people.

What base is there for that in a Democratic primary?
 

The Adder

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Just straight evicerate her at the kids table where she will inevitably be relegated in a wide field.
 

Tfritz

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Remember when self-described leftists were hyping her up because she supported Sanders in 2016.
 

Naijaboy

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If it means it embarasses her enough to lose her congressional seat, by all means go ahead.
 

Wracu

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And the first clown hops on the car.

Isn't there anyone to tell her how hopeless this is? Hopefully this exposure will get her primaried. Fucking trash.
 

Slayven

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The Chafee of 2020, my money is her withdrawing before the primaries.
 

The Adder

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Yeah, I mean without the Sanders fan support getting excited because you endorsed him early you just have a really out of touch Democrat who hates muslims with a strong neocon pro-war streak who reeeeeeeally hates gay people.

What base is there for that in a Democratic primary?
The "you only hate her because she's a progressive*" base. They won't vote for her, mind, but they'll start launching vicious attacks on any candidate that goes for her jugular

*progressive = backed the candidate I like one time.
 

Slayven

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This seems like a another drain on Sander's shrinking base.
 

Tapiozona

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Ah yes, just what the 2020 primary needs. A candidate brave enough to hate gay people and stand up for important issues like making sure Hawaii high schools don't teach about any historical gay people because it might turn the students gay.

Not finding much info about this. Only a speech she made in the early 2000's against legislation for an anti-gay bullying. Since then she's apologized for that and has championed for and voted for gay marriage. "gay marriage should be celebrated".

It looks like she's a hardcore catholic and theres some obvious conflict between her faith and gay marriage but at least her voting record is on the right side of history when it comes down to it.
 

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Oh, yeah. Every thread about her you had Sanders people talking about how they wanted her to run in 2020, defending her pro-assad views etc.
It was so bizarre to witness too. She attacked Obama from the RIGHT on foreign policy. She was all worked up about Obama not calling terrorism "radical islamic" terrorism just like the rightwing lol.

There was nothing about her that should appeal to your average Bernie fan other than that she endorsed him.
 
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