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Did anyone else buy a PS5 from a scalper? (OP scammed, Help inside)
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I really hope people don’t launch a gofundme or anything for OP. As harsh as it sounds, people need to learn from their mistakes. If people gave him their money, then he wouldn’t learn squat. £800 is a big lesson, but it’s one that will stick.
But from what OP is showing, if they're to be believed, it looks like they found the person via Depop and then communicated with the seller outside of Depop for the sale.Thank you for clarifying, I know you're not OP but this makes the whole situation so much easier to manage.
Buyer Protection
In order to be covered by Buyer Protection you must pay inside the app or on the Depop website, using the BUY button and report any issues to us within 180 days. All purchases made in-app and/or on...depophelp.zendesk.com
This is what Depop provide in terms of buyer protection, OP should contact Depop directly to see what other protection he has available to him.
Somebody who was willing to spend that much of a premium doesn't deserve a Gofundme for a luxury item.
Yeah, I got told about that from another response. Why would they do that knowing that they could make the purchase directly on the website?
The “why” I cannot answer. I still think OP is trolling or at the very least withholding some crucial information. But based on OPs “proof” (https://m.imgur.com/a/m5YgPLu) OP engaged the seller in a DM on depop then paid through PayPal Friends and Family. The seller then deleted the depop account
That's nice, I need some new coolant for the next rig I build. Where can I buy your ass cheek water?
1 gallon of my Ass cheek water comes with every copy of DMC5SE
Neat. I can give DMC5SE to someone I don't like then. You got a deal!
I’ll buy it from you...PayPal friends and family cool??
Say what now???
Where do you live? US I'm guessing?
OP is in the UK so I assume more consumer protections. I would be astonished if this happened to him.
Sorry, he was the seller and buyer claimed it wasn't delivered.
I'm also well aware of the claim you got something else scam. It's just not as prevalent as people make it out to be. Often selling in person is made out to be the only safe option when it definitely isn't.
Ofc
That's how I pay all my stuff online, even illegal drugs, nuclear weapons and consoles purchased from shady people at online marketplaces that don't normally deal in electronics.
PayPal still refers chargebacks and unpaid debts to debt collection agencies in the UK if not paid back within 90 days. In the UK they typically use Wescot Credit Services or Akinika.
Yeah that's what makes it sketchy to me. OP stalled to provide any sort of proof—even going so far as to say they (unnecessarily) contacted a mod to ask if they could post proof, which we have no indication ever happened. Then when they finally post "proof" it's after a long delay and could easily be faked? They even blocked out where they bought it from, which they hadn't revealed yet despite asking for help on how to get their money back. The proof they posted just makes the transaction even sketchier. It's like every step along the way they're doing everything they can to make this sound worse and worse.
It took a couple hours before OP said he went through Depop, an online marketplace primarily dealing with fashion items. Apparently if you buy something through that site, you get buyers protection, but OP DM'd the seller and did a transaction outside of the site, via PayPal Friends and Family. I posted this earlier, and some other people did as well. But the thread is kinda moving fast lol. It's wild, I tell ya!
But do they go to people's houses? The worst I thought they could do was harassing phone calls, and you can mail them to formally request all communication be done by mail, by law. In-person harassment is what shocks me here!
Yeah that's what I was saying.
They initially came here asking for help on how to get a refund and people were asking where they bought from, which OP didn't respond to.
Eventually OP finally posted their "proof" and even then the marketplace they were going through was blocked out, and only after more pestering did they finally say what marketplace they found the seller on.
The marketplace seems like important information when it comes to handling how to deal with being scammed. Maybe they didn't want to reveal they went outside of the marketplace to make the transaction or something? Either way it's sketchy because it implies to me that either it's fabricated or OP isn't being entirely forthcoming with important information.
I find this hard to beleive if the transaction took place using PayPal F&F, you might get the money back from the bank but PayPal would still come after you and quite rightfully so.
That was in the UK.
My situation was different, as I was a seller that got scammed rather than the buyer.
But that’s what happened once PayPal decided I was the one that owed them money, despite having proof that the item had been delivered.
As I said, it was fifteen years ago, and not exactly the same situation - so it’s entirely possible things will be different now.
But I would be expecting PayPal to come after that money, plus interest, if they do a chargeback.
Yeah, this whole thing is really weird. I am strongly leaning towards troll, but if I'm wrong I'd feel bad for OP and hope things can work out for him.
Yes, PayPal will most likely limit your account. So I would prepare to make that sacrifice.
The last thing I tried selling on ebay was my Vive. After about 4 days, buyer claims it stopped working. Didn't contact me for "troubleshooting", just files a claim with ebay. The thing that really pisses me off, is ebay has zero interest in actually facillitating things. They give you one option for what you want to do (and tell you it's your only choice you'll ever get, so be prepared to live with it). If you decline the return request, then ebay tells the buyer to keep the product and refunds them the money.
I don't know what the buyer's end game was, but I bluffed like a mofo and said I documented all the serial numbers and expected it to be in the exact same condition as it was sent in. Else all actions at my disposal (none) would be pursued.
Buyer returned it and it was in perfect working condition. Also my actual Vive. So even though I possibly prevented a scam with my bluff, I still was out 40 or 50 dollars for shipping to and from. Because even though I said no returns were accepted, and there was nothing wrong with it, I still had to accept the return and pay shipping for it or else ebay would have just auto refunded the money and let them keep it.
It's not the first time I've had issues with ebay, but it's the last time I ever use it. It's just not worth the hassle anymore.
Collection agencies are known to do this, yes, if you don’t respond to their emails/letters/phone calls.
I apologise for my terrible gif skills.
Even if OP is trolling, this thread is worth it for this gif and chairmanchuck’s image alone.
No dinner or friends over this weekend, not that they've got anything to show them.
if they're still allowed on the internet they can show their friends all the funny troll lols they've been having on resetera.com
This thread (and whole saga) is like one of those 80s cartoons that had the main character breaking the fourth wall and delivering an important lesson at the end.
gozu
It was fifteen years ago now, so many of the specifics are fuzzy at this point.
As I recall though, I was still in contact with PayPal support at the time; but it had been a long and drawn-out process due to how slow they were to investigate/respond, and the threatening visit was the first I had heard from a collection agency at all. It was not that I had been ignoring emails/letters/phone calls from them, or ignoring PayPal support.
It felt more like PayPal had contacted them as a means to get their money back, while stringing me along.
As I said: it was not exactly the same situation as this, since I was the seller.
I would hope that their procedures are better now after fifteen years; but if a chargeback is successful, and PayPal end up saying that you owe them money, you cannot ignore it and decide that your account with them is forfeit - even if that seems unfair. They will come after you for it.
I did look up some of my old emails relating to it: emails to the buyer - who did not delete their account immediately, but tried to make excuses first; PayPal support; and discussing it with friends.
And honestly, I was too young and naive to know how to handle it properly by myself - so much of this thread feels very familiar and is bringing back bad memories.
I'm inclined to believe that TheGreatJordan is not trolling, and the "inconsistencies" or unexpected responses that people are pointing at is a result of being young and freaking out at being scammed out of what would be a significant amount of money at that age (and to many, significant at any age).
I can look back now and see how there are many things I should have handled differently, but I didn't know any better at the time.
I feel very bad for the OP, specially because there are some really mean posts here, but this was hilarious.
Best of luck TheGreatJordan hope you get your money back.
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