His name alone was problematic enough, pair it up with the reveal and well...
Yea Puri Puri Prisoner is just as bad
Yea Puri Puri Prisoner is just as bad
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Did Onepunch-Man seriously just do Blackface!? (Spoilers)
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it's been known for a while, although this is the first time it's been mentioned in the Murata manga. It is pretty fucked up, first time I read it I was in disbelief.
Although thinking about it another S Class Hero is a rapist so idk if I can be that surprised :/
Although thinking about it another S Class Hero is a rapist so idk if I can be that surprised :/
Origin is the same in the web comic by ONE which is from over 2 years ago.
So it wasn't just me. Something about Rocklock rubbed me the wrong way. I was just waiting the whole time for some racist shit to happen or for him to betray everyone.
I just read the manga, what's wrong with Rock Lock.
Same artist, different writer. Murata is the artist, One is the writer.
He does the art on the manga. This plot point was written much earlier by another guy, who does a crudely drawn webcomic that serves as the blueprint for the manga.
Racism is fucking pernicious, it doesn't mean they're off the hook. It simply explains why it's part of their palette. Like you say, everything is out there for them to learn and artists keep choosing Al Jolson.
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All of his dialogue sounds like it was written by a 60 year old white business man in 1996.
"Awwww HELL naw", "son", "bruh", "homie" etc etc etc.
At one point they cram about 5 of these into one sentence and it sounds like parody.
People defend it and claim it's not racially insensitive because a black voice actor reads these lines but makes me really uncomfortable that they treat one of the only black characters in that massive city like a tired stereotype.
Right?
I swear, the anime&manga community always manages to dig up the weirdest things in order to not have to adress racist and sexiste stuff.
So, I wanna make something clear: Japan started to become aware of issues with Black Face around the mid 1980s, with reports bringing awareness that there were problems with depictions of Black people in the media. It actually resulted in banning of a Fujiko Fujio series from TV and the Manga being banned from broadcast in around 1989. Effectively, the series in question, Jungle Kurobee (Kurobee being a pun on "Kuro" (black) and "Akanbe" (pulling down the eye lid and sticking out the tongue), was an extremely racist depiction of not just Black people, but also natives, and played up many stereotypes for laughs (including how the character was uncivalized, originally a savage, and his "quirkiness" was just part of the joke).
This in the character in question:
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During a rebroadcast in around 1989, as well as attention brought to the manga, there was an outcry because of the content in it, as it's depictions of natives and black people. It resulted, from what I understand, a total ban of the series being published for years. During the series 40th Anniversary around 2013, they finally released the series on DVD and the Manga finally was re-printed, but they put serious warnings on both the DVD release and Manga, and went as far as made a mini-chapter on the manga reprint, apologizing for what resulted out of ignorance in the depictions in the manga.
So again, Japan has been aware of these issues since at least the 1980s. During the 1990s, you did start seeing this less-and-less in a lot of manga, anime, and games, but there was still plenty of problems. Heck, we know this, given even anime and manga as of recent within the last decade, still have occasional problems.
Japan should not get a pass, especially nowadays with globalization of the industry. I understand what resulted in this depictions in the past, notably Little Black Sambo being brought over and the Golden Age cartoons era of animation, which resulted in such depictions for awhile. Given limited exposure outside at the time, I'm not entirely blaming works from that particular era for those depictions fully (since even Osamu Tezuka was guilty of this, and it was well known how political his views about discrimination and racism he was so against, often presenting itself as a central theme in many of his works).
However, with ease of more access to the internet, the fact issues began to be raised in the 1980s, what happened in the past should not excuse why these depictions continue to be a problem in the market today. While again, they aren't NEARLY as bad as they were in the past, they are still happening, and we need to talk about this.
This in the character in question:
During a rebroadcast in around 1989, as well as attention brought to the manga, there was an outcry because of the content in it, as it's depictions of natives and black people. It resulted, from what I understand, a total ban of the series being published for years. During the series 40th Anniversary around 2013, they finally released the series on DVD and the Manga finally was re-printed, but they put serious warnings on both the DVD release and Manga, and went as far as made a mini-chapter on the manga reprint, apologizing for what resulted out of ignorance in the depictions in the manga.
So again, Japan has been aware of these issues since at least the 1980s. During the 1990s, you did start seeing this less-and-less in a lot of manga, anime, and games, but there was still plenty of problems. Heck, we know this, given even anime and manga as of recent within the last decade, still have occasional problems.
Japan should not get a pass, especially nowadays with globalization of the industry. I understand what resulted in this depictions in the past, notably Little Black Sambo being brought over and the Golden Age cartoons era of animation, which resulted in such depictions for awhile. Given limited exposure outside at the time, I'm not entirely blaming works from that particular era for those depictions fully (since even Osamu Tezuka was guilty of this, and it was well known how political his views about discrimination and racism he was so against, often presenting itself as a central theme in many of his works).
However, with ease of more access to the internet, the fact issues began to be raised in the 1980s, what happened in the past should not excuse why these depictions continue to be a problem in the market today. While again, they aren't NEARLY as bad as they were in the past, they are still happening, and we need to talk about this.
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This is a particular weird aspect of this issue at large. There's a whole spectrum of malice here: on one hand, there's stuff like Terra Formars or the thing you just posted which clearly embody hateful stereotypes straightforwardly, but then you have stuff like Cyborg 009 which preaches racial unity and tries to have a sympathetic multi-ethnic cast while the African guy is a golliwog doll.
A lot of times when we see this issue, it seems to be from people who you think would have been receptive to it the last dozen times it's gotten heat. But I don't live in Japan, so I have no idea what it seems like from their perspective.
Speaking of the golliwog doll, the popularity of those was in the 1970s if I'm not mistaken, and it seems to have a lot of the "cute" features that you sometimes see in these Japanese blackface characters, like the big circle eyes. I'm wondering if that could have been an influence.
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I'm guessing the joke was he became so tan he turned into a black guy? From what I'm seeing here
The anime and manga seems to just make him black
The anime and manga seems to just make him black
Is Golden Ball black or a gangster
Well this is more on ONE because it's adapted from his webcomic. And no one questioned it because they probably didn't understand it's racist. Not an excuse, but that's why it's hard for me to be offended by it. Less offended, more confused lol.
This is his origin as gets recently revealed in the manga, so the anime hasn't gotten that far yet
Though yeah, that's the 'joke'. It's like a more on the nose version of Luffy's afro - invocation of black imagery as a sign of nominally 'Japanese' characters being good at stuff they expect black people to be
What makes this even stupider is that if not for this particular point, the origin would have been serviceable in the over the top fashion of the series. Kid gets picked on, feels weak, starts weightlifting until they're the most built dude ever. The design would still be rather suspect, but it would be something
But noooooooo can't have that
I'm both impressed by One's art there, and very, very disappointed :(The character in the original manga:
I found the character bothersome and now this just cemented the feeling he was a parody was on point.
Oh well. The only thing I would do is message Funimation to retcon this character's backstory in the dubs. The actual studio isn't likely to understand or even listen.
Oh well. The only thing I would do is message Funimation to retcon this character's backstory in the dubs. The actual studio isn't likely to understand or even listen.
Didn't From Bonus Chapter vol 4 or 5 (Before Go Fight Deep Sea King)The same manga/webcomic, that has him:
he volunteers to get in the prisons and the worst thing he does to other prisoners is force kiss?
It's just the same as in the webcomic from years ago...
The problem is his skin should be more "tan/metalized", the anime just fucked it up.
The problem is his skin should be more "tan/metalized", the anime just fucked it up.
Wait a minute, if his power comes from training, like Saitama, and he even goes bald from training, like Saitama, why didn't he become a second One Punch Man?
Based on the art from the original manga posted above I'd have thought the character was supposed to be black.
I never got far enough in the manga to see him do anything how are his powers unique? Is he just a weaker Saitama basically?
Yes, which means he is one of the strongest non-Saitama hero (behind Blast and Tatsumaki, on par with Bang)