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Digital Foundry: Crackdown 3 Analysis - Everything you need to know (Xbox One X/S/PC)
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i dont know what to say, i was sure this game would be native 1080p on X1S and native 4k on the X1X, really disappointing to hear they cant even achieve that without using a dynamic resolution with a major resolution drop. the game didnt look that good IMO and there are other X1 exclusive that look better while operating at a higher resolution.
Aren't they literally saying the drop is "extremely uncommon"?
I'll watch the video later.
Good work guys.
Argh, it's comments like this that stop devs from implementing dynamic resolutions and it's how we get shitty performance in games. Every single game should have dynamic resolution and dynamic supersampling. Every. Single. One. What is the point in having a game at a locked 4K/30 100% of the time? It just means there's a lot of overhead that could be better utilised elsewhere. Even better when it's combined with reconstruction as well when it drops from native.
the lower drops are less common on the lower end of the range, but i am still talking about the fact i am disappointed they cannot hit native 1080p. it even says "the Xbox One S seems to struggle more often to maintain native 1080p" which means the resolution isnt on the higher end that much.
look, i love dynamic resolution, i think it could have run at those graphical settings without that compromise. i am actually one who is very supportive of implementations of resolution tricks, however it doesnt feel justified here with how the game looks.
I spent 2+ hours combing over footage looking for res drops. It's very very difficult to find. I was convinced it was native 4K locked at all times for a while. DRS isn't an issue here.
Ok, I understand.
I preloaded it on the PC, and they say there's unfixable stuttering on pc. Sigh.
that's good then, i was just a bit surprised. sorry if i came off aggressive.
It's absolutely bizarre to see DF speak so highly of the visuals (and bring receipts), while people here say it looks like a 360 game. Lol
Anyway, the skyline, sense of scale and lighting make this game look awesome. I'm not a fan of some of the explosions, but over all, I find it visually appealing.
Anyway, the skyline, sense of scale and lighting make this game look awesome. I'm not a fan of some of the explosions, but over all, I find it visually appealing.
Is this with the new nvidia drivers? I really can't stand stuttering and hitching.
If it's not fixed , oled and x for me.
If it's not fixed , oled and x for me.
Xbox One X
Resolution: Dynamic 4k - Scales on the horizontal with a maximum reduction of 60% - Drops are rare. Stays at Native 4k regularly
Performance: 30fps - Holds performance incredibly well with only a handful of minor drops recorded over hours of footage
Xbox One S
Resolution: Dynamic 1080p (Struggles more often to keep max resolution than X)
Performance: 30fps - Holds performance fairly well, but drops aren't hard to find.
General
Resolution: Dynamic 4k - Scales on the horizontal with a maximum reduction of 60% - Drops are rare. Stays at Native 4k regularly
Performance: 30fps - Holds performance incredibly well with only a handful of minor drops recorded over hours of footage
- Shadows are a highlight - Headlight shadows look really good, shadows in general look good too with smooth cascades.
- Good Global Illumination - Suggests light propagation volumes technique
- Driving through the world is smooth - No hitching, skipping or stuttering
Xbox One S
Resolution: Dynamic 1080p (Struggles more often to keep max resolution than X)
Performance: 30fps - Holds performance fairly well, but drops aren't hard to find.
General
- HDR is fantastic (Mentions HDR was broken for the mutliplayer demo)
- Excellent PBR Materials
- Screen Space Reflection implementation works supremely well
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Yeah, people aren't considering how clean the IQ looks and the fact that this is running on an engine that doesn't necessarily suit a game of this scale. I think it looks great, but I think part of that may be because it kind of reminds me of Sunset Overdrive due to how colorful the game is. While I do think I'll give Crackdown 3 a shot, I have to say that this video more so had me thinking of how nice it'd be to have an X-enhanced patch of Sunset Overdrive, though.
It actually looks alright. Character animations are half-baked (similar to Recore), but the environment looks great and you can feel the sense of scale. First thing that came to mind was Coruscant in KOTOR, but fully traversable.
Physics doesn't look as good as you would expect from the much touted destruction-physics though. Destruction doesn't look natural but looks more like a crumbling stack of dominoes, where there is very minor horizontal deviation and pieces all fall at the same rate.
Physics doesn't look as good as you would expect from the much touted destruction-physics though. Destruction doesn't look natural but looks more like a crumbling stack of dominoes, where there is very minor horizontal deviation and pieces all fall at the same rate.
I think that it looks truly amazing for a 360 game ...... ffs
Seriously, looks pretty damn good. So good in fact, that the trolls haven't bothered to post. This thread will die in an hour or so
Seriously, looks pretty damn good. So good in fact, that the trolls haven't bothered to post. This thread will die in an hour or so
Yep, this thread would be at 12 pages already, if the game truly looked last-gen.
If they could have they would have.
This is running on Unreal Engine 4, try and find a UE4 game that tries to do a game like this in the first place let alone do it at the resolution you expect it to.
Yep, me too. I can't wait to check it out on both Xbox One X and PC. From the looks of the DF video it's everything I want from a Crackdown game and it differs itself from a lot of other open world games by actually having fun gameplay throughout.
Those people are't coming. We know what kind of people those are. ;)
Glad to see the prioritisation of a consistent frame-rate. More games should go dynamic.
Thank you for another great video.
Thank you for another great video.
I just wanted to say that you're the best at highlighting the good stuff. You've done a better job at presenting this game than anything I've seen up until this video, I'm actually onboard with this game now.
We don't all see the same thing as other human beings do, we aren't all the same.
Great video Dark! It looks like some great old school fun. The smooth frame rate is much appreciated on X.
I still think it looks really ugly? More an art and animation thing though.
eh not really. When theirs one thread were people can bash the game vs one for the opposite its pretty easy to know where era will flock to
Well it does look last-gen...and it doesn't. It reminds me of the EDF games in some ways.
I mean going off what you quoted, looks like it's extremely uncommon?
If every once in a blew moon the resolution drops to keep the performance stable, that's a good thing.
This looks REALLY good in the video. Can't wait to test it myself when it comes out. Already preloaded.
Not very surprising to me unfortunately. This was a game destined to be panned here regardless of the outcome. Thankfully, this will scratch my Crackdown itch nicely. I'm curious to see how performance will be on my Intel NUC mini-PC on my ultra wide monitor compared to the Xbox One X and S.
Not an Xbox one game, but in the last few trailers, days gone looks a lot better than what a 40% performance difference between the base consoles is, and I am pretty sure that game does not use dynamic resolution.
looks nice in the video. They should have definitelly picked a different start area for the campaign as the very unappealing when you start playing it.
We should probably wait until Days Gone releases before comparing it to other games in terms of resolution and performance. Sony released a trailer in 60fps last week, let's not judge it on pre-release trailers.