That would be glorious, with the 4K/30 or 1080/60 toggle, obviously... Tom does make a strong argument here.
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(Digital Foundry) Demon's Souls: Why The Time Is Right For A PS4 Remake
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That would be glorious, with the 4K/30 or 1080/60 toggle, obviously... Tom does make a strong argument here.
I think a remake would be fascinating to see for what they would do to the gameplay and design, more than the graphics and audio. Do they adapt all of the gameplay additions that the Souls games have added since Demon's, or would they go right back to not having falling attacks and having people farm for healing items of different strengths? Do they streamline the weapon upgrade system to be less obtuse? Does Old Monk happen in the same way on a fresh new game? What kind of adjustments get made to controlling world tendency when you're not online? I'm forgetting other things, but I think the potential is there to get really wild with it.
Demon's Souls doesn't need gameplay tweaks or additions or any of that stuff. It still plays great to this day.
Sony should just hire Microsoft's backwards compatibility team to come in and give it the once over, then release it as a remaster. I'd pay good money for that.
Seriously though, I personally wouldn't want them to mess with it like they did Shadow of the Colossus. That re-release was a gorgeous game, and I'm not badmouthing the hard work that went into making it what it is, but I bounced off it pretty hard and fast because it just didn't 'feel' the same to me. I wouldn't want the same from a re-release of Demon's Souls.
(I do intend to give it another chance, to be clear, but that's where my head is at right now.)
Sony should just hire Microsoft's backwards compatibility team to come in and give it the once over, then release it as a remaster. I'd pay good money for that.
Seriously though, I personally wouldn't want them to mess with it like they did Shadow of the Colossus. That re-release was a gorgeous game, and I'm not badmouthing the hard work that went into making it what it is, but I bounced off it pretty hard and fast because it just didn't 'feel' the same to me. I wouldn't want the same from a re-release of Demon's Souls.
(I do intend to give it another chance, to be clear, but that's where my head is at right now.)
The sound of that bell in conjecture with the aesthetic of that stage...fucking incredible. I doubt we'd get a remake/remaster, but I'd love one.
Most amothspheric level/zone of last gen.
I don't think Bluepoint can capture/keep the atnosphere of Demons Souls PS3 if they remade it.
They changed the atmosphere etc too much for Shadow of the Colossus and lost the feel of the original.
Demons Souls the most atmospheric Souls game don't want them to ruin that.
So that is why i would rather a simple remaster than a remake that would mess and ruin things.
They changed the atmosphere etc too much for Shadow of the Colossus and lost the feel of the original.
Demons Souls the most atmospheric Souls game don't want them to ruin that.
So that is why i would rather a simple remaster than a remake that would mess and ruin things.
Think it ought to be left to PS5 for a native 4K60fps remaster or even better a CBR 4K60/30 fps remake with QoL improvements.
I don't have this attitude, I just think there are plenty more deserving games for a remaster. As great as Demons Souls was, it plays mechanically worse than DS3 and has far less content than all the other Souls game. I love the game but I have a hard time thinking of a less deserving game for a remaster. Just seems like a waste time and resources.
Oh, I see. I apologize for misunderstanding your post, then. I do disagree on the merits of Demon's Souls, tho. Fantastic game still to me, with a lot of unique mechanics and great atmosphere, plus whatever issues it has could be fixed potentially. Honestly, I can't think of many games more deserving of a remaster.
Well, then please pass it on to higher ups at SIE. The people crave more Demon's Souls!
I'm sure this has been discussed to death, but... how? It looked really faithful to me.
Agreed, it works surprisingly well. Right now the 30fps cap does Demon's Souls' emulation some favours - even the Threadripper 1950X I use in the video struggles with physics-based stuff, so 60fps is off the cards anyway. For now at least!
True, but you should read the message from RPCS3 on your youtube video, threadripper doesn't work well with RPCS3 atm! 8700k is much better.
Oh, it definitely need some QoL changes: i beat it recently on the ps3 emulator and while i loved it (again), the differences with Bloodborne or DS3 are evident. For example, you cant use every soul item at once, so you need to use each one of them one at a time.
Nah, the original game have sold more than 1.7 million. Souls is bigger now than when it was released back in 2009/2010 and a lot of people/souls fans who played Dark Souls and Bloodborne have never played Demon's Souls. A remake or a good remaster would reintroduce the game to newer Souls fans and bring in old fans again and easily sell more than a million.
it's also a far more obscure, clunky, hard game than the other souls. It has points for atmosphere and creativity but it's not nearly as accessible. I don't see this selling well really, specially as people are asking for a remake.
It's not really harder than DaS and Bloodborne. A bit more obscure in some aspects like world tendency sure, but that won't stop people from playing and enjoying Demon's Souls (understanding world tendency ain't even needed to play the game), especially as people will be familiar with how the Souls games works and plays anyway. So no, I wouldn't say it's "accessibility" would hurt the sales.
Also, what do you mean you don't see the game selling much because you see people asking for a re-release? That's... kinda contradicting.
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I mean you can go look at it. It's just the same game. The PC version was already as good or better
I mean we are getting MediEvil, I don't really think sales matter.
DeS doesn't even require a remake. Just upscale the thing like RPCS3 does, tweak the phantom/npc AI, and fiddle with like the boss music audio levels which I've always found to be so tragically muted considering how epic the OST is. People act like 2009 is so archaic. I've played the game god knows how many times since I picked up my pre-ordered copy and now being able to play through most of it on RPCS3 upscaled, it's almost like the game came out last year. Remaster, release and let the wailing begin for all us PC players who don't own a PS4.
Not really 60fps, the game is just sped up to twice of the actual game.
Have you played Bloodborne? They can find hundreds of better engines than that
Easy money, re-release the game in 4k and a performance 60fps mode. The game still holds up very well even today.
Yeah it's not there yet. But as stated in the video, that's how it started in cemu with botw too, so they will get there to get the gamelogic 60fps.
Feel like this would need a full on remake. Just updated textures and performance wouldn't cut it, it is the most janky of all the Souls. Played it last year for the first time and some bosses like Maneater were annoying as hell with them landing and flying away over and over and then just straight up disappearing and not coming back forcing reloads.
The remake/remaster of all remakes...
Let the world be mended!
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Demon's Souls: Remended edition!
Let the world be mended!
#WorldRemended
Demon's Souls: Remended edition!