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Digital Foundry Direct: PlayStation 5 Controller, UI, SSD News Reaction + Analysis
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They had a text article about this a day or two back too:
I'm almost more excited about DF's coverage of the next generation of consoles than the consoles themselves.. almost.
DF make every game feel great eventhough many would miss the features by not paying attention. Great work they are doing really.
It's basically the same as the video, they're just rounding up discussion on the Wired article. No new info.
Ok thanks. I thought they had their hands on the device too so they ahd a little more to share.
"There is actually quite a lot more in the article about the SSD which is, you know, I think the biggest gamechanger of this generation, potentially."
Putting certain ERA users from this thread on blast.
Glad sony copying Nintendo rumble for their new controller I seriously can't go back to other controllers rumble it feels better
I don't think copying is the right term but rather improving or enhancing + expanding.
Hearing the details again, I'm starting to think it will be a "small" SSD (maybe ~128 or 256 GB) with mechanical "storage" drive. With all the changes to UI made to cut down on the time waiting on the initial "install" from the HDD to SSD every time you play a new game. This would allow normal external HDD usage as well.
I like the idea that the PS5 devkit is designed to be stacked vertically - and that's the reason for the weird v shape.
Great discussion. Still not a lot of info to go on, but it'll be very interesting to see what's actually different between the Scarlett and PS5 hardware. So many similar bullet points.
I'm expecting to have a small ssd and a larger hdd, if you try to launch a game from the hdd then it'll have to copy to the ssd first.
Great discussion. Still not a lot of info to go on, but it'll be very interesting to see what's actually different between the Scarlett and PS5 hardware. So many similar bullet points.
I'm expecting to have a small ssd and a larger hdd, if you try to launch a game from the hdd then it'll have to copy to the ssd first.
Nah. At least 1TB. Any game from external storage will have to be installed on the SSD first.
You mean like how Nintendo copied the Steam Controller?
The thing with haptics I mean HIGH DEFINITION rumble that came out years before the Switch.
I really hope they are at least 1TB. Hopefully Sony can cut a deal on a mass-produced SSD for the PS5.
Having potential of being the biggest "game changer" in a console generation, and being something better than what's been on PC for years are two very different things. That thread turned into a PC vs whatever the PS5 is using. The problem is, we don't know what Sony is cooking up. And what should not be ignored here are DF's concerns over the memory being proprietary and not expandable. That screams a smaller SSD with a larger "storage" HDD to me.
Its quite literally whats happening, so idk why that's funny to you. Nintendo didnt invent haptic feedback or Linear Resonant Actuators.
PlayStation did the whole "dual rumble motors" thing back since PS1, and now they are being replaced by Voice Coil Actuators which are basically a jump up over what an LRA can do (and also larger, so they fit nicely where the dualshock motors used to go).
We'll see if more devs make use of it than we saw on Switch.
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its the same thing, they didn't announce anything that made it sound different
dont be defensive about it I want Xbox to have it too, no controller should be without it
Is it safe to assume that the PS5 is going to severely narrow the gap between a beefy gaming PC and the traditional "potato" nomenclature of consoles?
hmm never tried it on steam controller, is there anyone on here who use both I would assume Nintendo use it in a better way since it didn't get as much word as mouth praise as Nintendo did when we use it with different games
no need to be defensive theres nothing wrong copying if it's done right I didn't like the Sony move controllers but they were still done decently
Taking an existing thing and improving/modifying it is still ultimately copying.
Also, Nintendo did rumble first of we're going to play that game.
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We haven't even used it yet. There's no way to know anything other than it's their version of HD rumble
Henry Ford copied Karl Benz when he created a car with four wheels and steering wheel, see how silly it is? Let's move on people, everything is a copy of something and then improved upon, which is called innovation. And it literally doesn't matter who did what first or better, let's move on
I wasn't playing who did it first. I just pointed out that the dualshock design means they can replace those motors with the VCAs.
If you really wanr to go down that "who did rumble first" thing, check out the Japanese Dual Analog controller that came out with rumble. It released at the same time as the N64 rumble pak.
Spooooky.
Within two sentences you go from "We don't know what Sony is cooking up" to "But we should totally talk about the negative implications I conjure up here!".
I am not defensive about it rather being more specific because on the contrary of what you both didn't acknowledge the fact the the haptic feedback coupled with the improved sound that comes from the speaker can create a more advanced immersion without forgetting that trigger resistance (which was compared to the XB1 trigger rumble but it is different) that add even more to the gameplay interaction so in sum neither the Switch nor the XB1 have those features combined together which add to the whole experience and that is what I am talking about.
And I agree that every console should have those features so every dev will be more willing to expolit them rather than superficially scratch the surface of possibilities for just one console.
Well said.
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What's up with all that "who did it first" dick measuring contest. Saw this in other threads too. All those companies innovated in some ways. But as the history shows pure innovation doesn't always translate to success so that's why implementation matters too.
It's like saying that the inventor of a wagon shouldn't be respected because someone created a wheel long time ago
Anyway great video. Loved the speculation and Crysis jokes. I hope DF can do more stuff like this. Interesting that they heard about 1TB SSD
It's like saying that the inventor of a wagon shouldn't be respected because someone created a wheel long time ago
Anyway great video. Loved the speculation and Crysis jokes. I hope DF can do more stuff like this. Interesting that they heard about 1TB SSD
Maybe Scarlett will have one too since they started trigger vibration so they may improve on them and add resistance too. Who knows.
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I think their description of the PS5 devkit was relatively mild though! Like goddamn, that thing is an abomination!
For now yes, nothing is confirmed to have it other than the DS5 but to be more precise the gaming wheels use such methods to convey such feelings of resistance. This will be used for more than racing games though like for steering, stretching a bow, throwing something heavy or light etc...
What this is making me think of even though it's not the same is the Force Feedback racing wheels have.
edit: Dammit PLASTICA-MAN I keep being one-upped today.
Yes, I forgot the wheels indeed. Most wheels already have a similar thing.
Ok, this is the second time I have seen DF guys feeling down on Nex Gen console specs. During First Reveal, they said that RT and fastest SSD is just buzzword used by Cerny. Now they are speculating that RT hardware won't be as impressive as Nvidia's current offering.
I am here just hoping they are wrong on this matter.
Also, I will correct them here. There was no confusion on RT when even the interviewer tweeted that RT was talked in regards to visual feature not just audio
I am here just hoping they are wrong on this matter.
Also, I will correct them here. There was no confusion on RT when even the interviewer tweeted that RT was talked in regards to visual feature not just audio
The Joycon have HD rumble. Unsure about the pro controllers.
The Joycon is the Switch controller right? I can't recall ever thinking it was different than any other rumble but I only played BOTW and Mario Odyssey on it
Hahaha aww the good ole virtual boy
Yeah It's ugly as hell. But it's kinda futuristic and bizarre enough to be kinda beautiful in some way