I feel like this thread could just use an apng comparison or so per page.
😍I feel like this thread could just use an apng comparison or so per page.
Well yes - a large part of the reason RD2 looks so much better is all the techniques utilized to get far better lighting.I get excited over moving from
This.
To this
Or to a lesser extent moving from uncharted 4 to TLOU2.
These RT implications are like getting a res boost, it's nice but it's not something I'm getting excited over.
I'm more excited about cyberpunks Npc amount and complexity.
I get excited over moving from
This.
To this
Or to a lesser extent moving from uncharted 4 to TLOU2.
These RT implications are like getting a res boost, it's nice but it's not something I'm getting excited over.
I'm more excited about cyberpunks Npc amount and complexity.
That is cherry picked as hell, blurry gameplay shot of GTAV probably from youtube & pre-release touched up shot of RDR2.I get excited over moving from
This.
To this
Or to a lesser extent moving from uncharted 4 to TLOU2.
These RT implications are like getting a res boost, it's nice but it's not something I'm getting excited over.
I'm more excited about cyberpunks Npc amount and complexity.
Yeah I wanna second this. I love Df, have for quite a while, but Alex's videos are exactly the kind of content I want out of the channel.
Yeah, lets compare a 2005 Console game (360) to a 2017 Console game (1X), a 12 year difference, versus GTX 1000 series to RTX 2000 series, 2 year difference.
I feel like this thread could just use an apng comparison or so per page.
The amazing standard lighting you talk of isn't based on tech, it's mainly artists putting in hard work to approximate what raytracing is able to do here. This is just a hut that's off the main path and with raytracing on it looks as good as the best lighting ever faked in a completely rasterized game.
I fail to see how that minimizes the impact of RTX however. You're arguing against its impact by...comparing multi-generational releases with massively huge budgets, whereas we're seeing a huge difference with a feature added into an existing game done by a relatively small studio.
I may as well clarify a bit with some common HD 16:9 resolutions:
Happens all the time, I get it too, I'm sure I did the same in the past.
There's definitely fanboyism in these threads, but there is somewhat of a point to that. Tech is only going to excite people to the degree that they can actually utilize it, and right now RTX cards just have a limited market, due to price and being PC-only. When this is available in $400 consoles and games are designed around it from the outset we'll see far more people excited, as they actually have a chance of experiencing it.
RTX 2060(GTX 1070Ti) seems to be doing quite well for 30fps and above and i think we have rumors that next gen machines will be in that ballpark GPU wise, so why not? Unless AMD has absolutely nothing on that front for their next architecture... even then there might be a surprise "sauce" put into custom console hardware by Sony/MS.
I guess the laptop makers are just expecting for people to use the native resolution (lately 4K has been rather common) and nothing lower, even though 1440p is a very useful resolution to have, since 4K is still too demanding in the more demanding games for most graphics cards (especially in laptops).
Other games and engines solved problem areas like this a long time ago with ambient occlusion and other lighting tricks. In this case GI is fixing a problem that shouldn't really be there.I feel like this thread could just use an apng comparison or so per page.
Is this why people are downplaying it? Because I dont think alot of people have migrated to RTX on PC either but can praise the tech for what it is.
Those tricks become alot harder to handle and prone to flaws in a large map with a dynamic time of the day, which is the case with Metro Exodus without raytracing GI.
But there are many methods of AO for a reason - it doesn't really 'fix' the problem universally by any means. VXAO in Rise of the Tomb Raider for example can provide dramatically better occlusion coverage than even HBAO+, but it comes at a performance impact almost at the level of adding in ray tracing.
