Could be. Stranger things have happened, but it's never safe to presume if you ask me.
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Digital Foundry: Mortal Kombat 11: Switch vs PS4/Pro/Xbox One/X - From Handheld To 4K!
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It's probably really hard to make polygonal reductions to closeups of faces without breaking the way those animations work. There's probably less reductions to the cutscene models than to the gameplay models which is why it runs at a much lower res
There are a few things working in favor of further improvements.
1. This is close to an always online game, so it will be worked on and updated constantly in the coming years so we can hope some performance improvements come in that time.
2. The Switch version is apparently selling quite well for itself so there is incentive there to improve upon it rather than neglect it like Injustice Wii U.
I agree we shouldn't assume there will be improvements but I think there's a good chance we will see them.
Hopefully that moderately enhanced Switch can make it look and run even better
That's because a lot of Switch owners are willing to overlook major graphical cut backs just to get the game on their platform.
Is still an isue (team 540p represent!) but many techniques to mitigate it have been developed since the Vita days.
One of the reasons I believe they will improve Switch version is that the port was clearly rushed. The best evidence is the fact that the character specific tutorials are tagged as "Coming soon" when they are already available in other versions.
Suddenly bloodstained 720p 30 doesn't look all that bad.
For reference does anyone remember what mk9 ran like on vita? I'm guessing sub 540p.
For reference does anyone remember what mk9 ran like on vita? I'm guessing sub 540p.
Outside of the Krypt issues the Switch port is pretty good for the actual fighting part of the game.
Don't understand why they didn't just put a img file or something as the backdrop instead of just a grey background if the Switch was having issues. The Krypt for the Switch is definitely the worst part of the port. Boon did good on the 60fps part though of the game.
Don't understand why they didn't just put a img file or something as the backdrop instead of just a grey background if the Switch was having issues. The Krypt for the Switch is definitely the worst part of the port. Boon did good on the 60fps part though of the game.
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Impressed with the Switch version, but not understanding why the Krypt looks the way it does. There are making sacrifices, and then there is just not putting in the work to make a substitute. Like they could have put the moon and the people fighting on the bridge in there with changes. They could have went further than just using the most dense fog I have ever seen. Also maybe making the Krypt 30fps?
I keep seeing people really complaining about performance here, but when I watched the video they said it was 99% 60fps on the Main gameplay.
I bought the Xbox x version and the switch version. Playing on a 65" 4k tv the switch version looks really really bad. Playing on an older 55" 1080 tv isn't as bad. Playing it right after playing the Xbox x version is not recommended. Lol
The main problem the switch version has docked is that there is a horrible post processing artifacting all over with heavy dithering. I wouldn't mind seeing them cut out post effects and serve up a straight no AA clean mode.
The main problem the switch version has docked is that there is a horrible post processing artifacting all over with heavy dithering. I wouldn't mind seeing them cut out post effects and serve up a straight no AA clean mode.
It looks good enough to me during actual fighting gameplay considering the 60fps target. I think most mobile primary switch users will be happy with the port.
Yeah, they need to just drop almost all effects and give a clean graphical look. Also clean up the start screen UI. The sections are pixelated as shit and the towers look laughable.
Jesus, with frame drops to boot.
Not happy with the docked Res either. Should have eaten the 30 fps reduction and pumped Res and gfx. 540p docked will look awful on a big screen. 340p looks awful even on a screen the size of a switch. Maaaaybe leave unlocked fps for docked mode. No one really gives a shit about 60 fps fighter on a low powered portable. I mean it's impressive they went for that, but you could get that experience on a much cheaper xb1s.
Probably not unless you absolutely, definetly need the handheld version, play Dragons Dogma instead.
All those sacrifices and still many drops to 45 fps, at least with the switch pro we may have decent resolution
The gameplay is the main part of the game lol. The lower framerate during cinematics is an artistic choice to more resemble a film look which is usually 24fps.
If only there was an amazing MK action game that they could remake...
Am I taking crazy pills? The game wouldn't even play the same at 30fps
I was thinking it might be the shaderwork, there are obviously specific shaders to the fatalities, and even to the cutscenes, and all of that might have seen less focus over getting the gameplay itself to run like it does.
It's a slight dip to the mid 50s, it sucks that it isn't a locked 60 but its not like its dropping way lower. If it was constantly dropping lower, that'd be a bigger problem than it was.
It's a huge issue for a fighting game to drop below 60fps. It messes with frame data/inputs.
They haven't made one in forever. You'd have to have the patience of a monk.
The core gameplay is about what I'd expect from the Switch, but everything around it isn't great. Maybe Shiver were pressed for time? The Switch version probably could have used a few more months in the oven.
I'm hoping that could be optimized later but heard that turning off match recording could help a little bit.
It's technically impressive, but that does not make the game visually beautiful.
People asking why the frame rate dropping or requesting it be locked to 30 have zero idea of how the game actually works. The gameplay is tied to the frames. It cannot be changed or altered in any way without breaking the gameplay.
This DF analysis disappointed me a little. It was concise and short, which is a good thing I guess, but I much more enjoy the type of DF analysis, that goes more into technical detail as well as more in detail of the beautiful art we see. John does this often in his reviews, that's why I love those so much. Such a technically and artistically impressive title as MK11 would've deserved it. It is not only the best looking fighter to date, but imo one of the most beautiful games of this generation.
I also don't agree that the look at the Switch version "was the main event" as was stated in the video. As I said, I would've loved a more detailed look also at the other platforms.
Lastly, why didn't they touch on the Krypt at all? There the biggest differences between platforms seem to lie. I would've liked to know at which resolution and framerate the Krypt ran on all consoles.
I also don't agree that the look at the Switch version "was the main event" as was stated in the video. As I said, I would've loved a more detailed look also at the other platforms.
Lastly, why didn't they touch on the Krypt at all? There the biggest differences between platforms seem to lie. I would've liked to know at which resolution and framerate the Krypt ran on all consoles.
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I thought both used UE4.
Let's see what SNK can do, samsho seems less complex than mk so maybe even if downgraded won't be noticed as much.
They probably just didn't bother optimising it at all. They just spent what little time and budget they had on the core gameplay and neglected the Krypt completely.
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A From Honor / God of War style behind the shoulder action game. They have the primary weapon, character model and location all ready.
I actually expected lower average resolutions on Switch, especially handheld. Maybe it's the lack of post process that made it seem worse to my eyes. Pretty exceptional port though at it's core. I'm sure fighters in general come with some overhead performance wise but this is a good looking late current gen title running at 60, aside from a few ugly fatalities it's a solid representation.
Too bad about the Krypt.
Too bad about the Krypt.
So an admission that you don't understand how fighting games work.
I'm honestly a bit surprised so many of these current gen ports have such shockingly low resolutions when other games like Wolfenstein, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Forza Horizon 2 can run at native 720 on the 360. And it was my understanding that even in portable mode, the Switch would be more powerful than the 360. I mean I think if someone did a port of Tomb Raider to Switch at 720 in portable mode, it would be among the best looking games on the system to date. Some of these ports are like Need for Speed on the Vita resolution and that's just a little surprising to me at this stage.
I don't think it's fair to be so harsh on the Switch port. We all know the power gap between it and the other systems is large. So the cut backs aren't surprising and the game still looks good considering the hardware. The Krypt just didn't have the time and budget behind it. It's obviously not an accurate representation of what the Switch is capable of.
The current gen ports are usually doing more than the last gen games were doing.
The current gen ports are usually doing more than the last gen games were doing.
I'm generally satisfied with how the Switch version looks and the portability more than makes up for the shortcomings, but the Krypt is comically ugly. The second I loaded in there I thought I was playing a long-lost N64 game. Looking at the difference in that Pit section on the other consoles is hilarious.
I was seriously going to get the Switch version over the XB1X version of the game. But after hearing that it runs under 400p and also the loss of graphics effects and framerates, I will go ahead and get it for the XB1X. This port is disappointing on the Switch, to say the least.
By all accounts it is a technically impressive port giveb the circumstances.
It does not run under 400P. that's the worst case possible in portable mode. also there are not loss on the framerate part. have you actually watched the video?
Their reaction to that was 100% spot on. Anyone who thinks the switch version is an impressive port would be impressed by two pixels bouncing off each other. Straight up dropping environments does not make a technical marvel. And yet it still has frame rate issues.I decided to take some grabs from the n64 quick look video
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