Consoles usually launch with relatively mature, older-Gen GPU architectures. You're setting yourself up for disappoint if you're expecting it to ship with a cutting edge GPU for ~$400.
Please stop repeating this falsehood. PS4 launched with a current gen GPU with features from an unreleased GPU. PS4 Pro has Vega features. This is not new, either. Xbox 360 and OG Xbox GPUs had yet to be released features as well.
Looking at RPCS3 yes, especially an emulator done by sony who know how their machine works.
What 1TB SSD in a $399 console? No chance
Twice the clock speed? Ha, no. Thermals are an issue with consoles
The CPU upgrade is going to be pretty epic indeed. I actually think people are underestimating it a bit too. Zen 2 on 7nm is a given considering Zen 2 is already finished and prepping for launch next year, so we're looking at 2x or more IPC over Jaguar depending on how Zen 2 turns out. Clock speeds are going to be insane too. I see people leaning towards it being around 3Ghz, but that seems far too conservative IMO. Ultra low power laptops are already seeing boost clocks exceeding 3Ghz, and 7nm is said to be delivering massive clock speeds increases due to the lower power usage. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see these new CPUs hit 4Ghz, even higher on Xbox if MS sticks with a vapor chamber heatsink and the Hovis method. Throw in the possibility of multithreading and we could see an 8x jump in CPU.
No. It's because we're moving to a digital future where ecosystems are important. It would be very bad for the PlayStation ecosystem to be separated by hardware when the competition is making all (or at least a lot) of their games playable on the newest hardware.
I'm confused by this post. When was the last time a console launched with a older gen GPU architecture?
The jump this gen was the smallest since at least the PS1 (especially taking the long time into account) so everyone hyped up the only spec that was on the level of past times.
We had > 10x jumps in PS1->PS2->PS3.
Mobile CPUs are pushing 3 GHz with TDPs under 5W. Laptop processors regularly push over 3GHz with 25/35/45W TDPs. Raven Ridge APUs are running 3.5GHz with 4 cores and a GPU with 25W TDPs. This chip will be on 7nm. It will easily achieve 3GHz.
About 500% in terms of raw IPC performance with other architectural benefits for efficiency. It's huge.
Yeah, this is my thinking too. We are starting to hear more legit info about PS5. I'm still in camp 2019.
The PS4 shipped with a 1.84 tflops Pitcairn GPU in 2013. The cutting edge AMD architecture at the time was Hawaii, and higher end 2013 GPUs (the 780 and the Hawaii R9s) were ~5 tflops. In performance and basic architecture it was basically a Q1 2012 mid-high range card.
I'm not sure if it needs that much bandwidth... Vega 64 uses 512GB/s because it is the minimum for HBM2 unless AMD is not using data compression.
I never said we would 0.o
So by "current" I mean "current" and you mean "last-Gen shifted down market into more affordable segments". We're talking past each other.
Right. But what about CPU performance though? I'd argue the CPU performance leap from PS3 to PS4 was the smallest we've had yet. So while I may have jumped the gun on saying it will be the largest ever, but considering the previous gen, I'd say it'd be bigger than that, for sure.
Using Nintendo in these arguments is cheating.
