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Digital Foundry: The NEW Doom Trilogy Console Ports: There's Good News And Bad News
- Thread starter chandoog
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For those at work, or otherwise cannot watch the video, there is a written article to support this video.
The quick takeaways are 1080p for Doom 1 and 2 and 4K for Doom 3 on X and Pro. I'll leave any further details for those that want to watch the video or read the article.
The quick takeaways are 1080p for Doom 1 and 2 and 4K for Doom 3 on X and Pro. I'll leave any further details for those that want to watch the video or read the article.
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....this explains why Doom 1 & 2 don't feel 'good' to play, imo.
....this explains why Doom 1 & 2 don't feel 'good' to play, imo.
Keep in mind, when I say 1080p, I mean it only supports 1080p output. The rendering resolution is not 1080p. It's rough 1/4 of that - but still much higher than 320x200. It scales it's oddball resolution to 1080p and the scaling isn't handled well.
Well that all sounds awful. Glad I didn't buy these. Thanks for the video!
God damnit. Worst than I thought. What kind of amateurs were porting this? Heads should roll.
Goddamnit...
I suppose its nice that Doom 3 is good, but I hate to see Doom 1 and 2 be done dirty.
I suppose its nice that Doom 3 is good, but I hate to see Doom 1 and 2 be done dirty.
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. It's been about 6 months since I've watched the Doom retro video, but I want to revisit it to see how Doom 1 and 2 on last gen compares.
It should be noted that some excellent 360 ports (with extra content!) were delisted so they could sell these fucking travesties. A goddamn shame, especially when stuff like gzdoom is out there for PC.
Glad I skipped on the Doom 1 and 2 ports to be honest. I would have liked them on Switch but Delta Touch on my phone seems a way better option. GZ Doom on the go, support for custom wads, and so on. I've got a great stretch controller so it basically turns my phone into a handheld console perfect for Doom. Happy with 3 though.
Let's be honest, it's generous to call Doom 2 a different game!
Quick work, great detail. I really hope Bethesda and Nerve take note of what John has put together here. Doom 1 and 2 could be great ports if they had a bit more time in the oven.
Sad to hear about Doom 1 and 2's quality. Nice to see Doom 3 running at 4K/60FPS on both Pro and X though.
Native 4K 60 FPS. Good, they ddin't mess up. After all this game is 2 gens behind and not running like that would be the strange scenario.
No online and HDR right?
No online and HDR right?
Gonna double dip on Doom 3 tonight for Pro. Native 4k goodness for such a fantastic game.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing this game on Switch but this seems like a solid effort for a good price.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing this game on Switch but this seems like a solid effort for a good price.
How in the world do you mees up Doom 1 and 2 this bad on systems waaaay more capable than last gen? This is not excusable.
Doom 1 and 2 deserve better than this, I still can play the 360 versions and on pc tho. Is there a breakdown of the xbla versions anywhere?
edit: Seems the xbla versions have issues/bugs with audio also
https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Xbox_360
edit: Seems the xbla versions have issues/bugs with audio also
https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Xbox_360
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Was waiting on this before grabbing Doom 3 on PS4. Happy to hear its good.
EDIT: Also, they need to make that Doom 3 DF Retro.
EDIT: Also, they need to make that Doom 3 DF Retro.
Can I get my money back for Doom 1 and 2 somehow on the Switch? Now I feel dirty that I bought this crap. :/
I don't get why the first two games are so messed up when it's the same developer that did the XBLA ports. What happened?
It released in 2004, but it's not two console generations behind by any stretch. Just to get it to run on the Xbox required massive cutbacks.
It released in 2004, but it's not two console generations behind by any stretch. Just to get it to run on the Xbox required massive cutbacks.
I've been playing Doom 1 on Switch and not really noticing any judder and the game feels great to play with a controller. Music is a little slow but other than that it looks/plays fine to me (mostly handheld mode)
Yeah, I'd love a deep dive on that Xbox port. The co-op was a blast even with me being tepid on DOOM 3 at the time.
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I beat Doom 3 and RoE on Pro and the IQ is very good. There are some dips in framerate, it happens at one or 2 specific scenes. Its just going a tad slower for a few seconds. For the rest its locked 60.
Its an amazing game and yeah the faster load times really help out. The auto save is still annoying though (its not integrated into background loading, but it pauses the game for a good few seconds), I would advise to turn it off and save manually now and then.
Its an amazing game and yeah the faster load times really help out. The auto save is still annoying though (its not integrated into background loading, but it pauses the game for a good few seconds), I would advise to turn it off and save manually now and then.
Well, dip. I'm already like 80% through Doom and already bought Doom 2 so...too late for me to turn back now I guess.
Strange that they didn't set the rendering resolution to nearer 1080p. Gzdoom supports 4k after all.
playing doom 3 on ps4 pro has been great. i haven't played 1 or 2 yet on ps4 but its a shame that they're so subpar.
This sold me on Doom 3. It's not quite Doom 1/2/2016 but it still looks like a lot a fun.
It makes sense. 384MHz (handheld clocks most games use) is 1/2 of 768MHz (docked clocks) while 1080p is 2.25x the pixels of 720p. There's a bit more headroom in handheld mode.
It makes sense. 384MHz (handheld clocks most games use) is 1/2 of 768MHz (docked clocks) while 1080p is 2.25x the pixels of 720p. There's a bit more headroom in handheld mode.
ALSO it wasn't talked about in the video but I DID play DOOM 1 on iOS when it came out on Friday. It replaced the old version that Carmack himself worked on like several years ago, and since I bought that when it came out, I was able to download the new release for free. It has all the problems of the console versions but also the controls are completely fucked. It sucks especially since the old version on iOS I remember being pretty decent.
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Nintendo are about as stingy as Sony regarding refunds, unfortunately
Welp that's 10 dollars down the drain. Not a huge deal, though it's a shame they somehow fucked it up
Oh boy, they are going this route. On one hand, I can see why they would use Unity, as it is very portable and runs on just about every current platform. It is much easier for Nerve to port the game to Unity and just make Unity builds for other platforms. I get that.
But at the same time... how do they screw up things that the Doom source code community has been doing right for decades? I mean... I have seen good source code ports of Doom running on refrigerators and toasters.
What cracks me up were all those who were certain about there being no Pro/X enhancements for Doom 3.
Game looks sublime.
Fantastic. I've been waiting for this. I was feeling tempted to grab Doom 3 - but I was never gonna do it without the DF nod. Diving in now.
