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Digital Foundry - Yoshi's Crafted World: Unreal Engine 4... On A Nintendo Game?
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same. I was surprised going in as I'd read peoples' impressions but found it pretty nice looking. Some of the edges to the cardboard are a bit blurry but the materials look nice.
Also found the demo pretty good fun too - you have reasons to replay to get your usual sunflowers, little stars, but also poochies and random thing that the robot wants. Considering the slate is a little quiet at the moment on switch I might grab this
He said it is one of the very first to use UE4 on the Switch, not the first.
The Switch was underpowered from the start, that's not a surprise by now. While we wait for a more powerful iteration in a few years I'd say things aren't too bad. The resolution is too low but the fact that most people are surprised after playing the demo show that the raw numbers don't always tell the whole story, and Crafted World is a modern looking game, full of fancy effects running at 60fps. It's not all bad.
And I know it sounds bad to hear 400p during a DF video but goddamn it's still better than a kart racer or a Kirby game running at 30fps.
And I know it sounds bad to hear 400p during a DF video but goddamn it's still better than a kart racer or a Kirby game running at 30fps.
UE4 is a very mature and capable engine. We don't have visibility on the hundreds of things that the dev team could be considering when making the decision. I agree that the res is low, but if you actually try the Yoshi demo, you could be surpised.
UE4 as a whole probably provides a lot more than the previous in-house engine. Nintendo must be learning a lot from this first effort, at the end, we all proffit from the experience.
It's running at 720p (i suppose docked) from basic pixelcounting in the few shots we have. It's also a 30fps game and using a more recent version of UE4, so it should end up quite okay.
I'm always impressed when low res games wind up looking so clean. I wouldn't have guessed the it was as low as it is. Still looks pretty good though
Whoa pretty surprised at that resolution, didn't think it was nearly that low when playing it myself.
It's surprising how good it looks, given the concessions.
Personally I am glad they prioritized framerate over resolution.
Personally I am glad they prioritized framerate over resolution.
I don't know the exact specifics of UE4 but usually updating your game engine mid dev breaks everything.
Thanks for the info.
Yeah, guess I was mistaken. Updates need to be streamlined for devs, I can't imagine redoing months/years of work just for updating to the latest version for X engine.
"-Docked - Dynamic resolution averages around 576p, some counts 675p"
For serious?! I mean it looked nice but I can't see why that couldn't run in1080p.
For serious?! I mean it looked nice but I can't see why that couldn't run in1080p.
overall, i'm glad they didn't go the kirby route and instead made sure to hit 60fps instead. that makes the game much more enjoyable to play. i don't expect UE4 to be a big thing for nintendo's own internal games, but it's working for some nintendo published games (octopath, this, daemon x machina) and is probably speeding up the dev time for those so it's a good thing. i expect good-feel to use the engine on their next game and probably reach better results now that they have experience with it.
I loved Woolly World but nothing about the Crafted World demo really moved me in any way to want to play more of it. I'd rather go back and play Woolly World again.
For me, the lower resolution was immediately apparent in both handheld and docked mode. In handheld it was noticeably blurry and on my old native res 1080p TV it looked like a last gen X360 HD upscale.
For me, the lower resolution was immediately apparent in both handheld and docked mode. In handheld it was noticeably blurry and on my old native res 1080p TV it looked like a last gen X360 HD upscale.
Thanks for the video Dark1x, I didn't want to ask if anyone was doing a DF video in the demo thread because I thought you'd have enough games on your schedule already.
Just as a lot of other people ITT, I thought the demo was really blurry in handheld mode but looked pretty good docked. Interesting that it's still sub-720p. 60fps is far more important to me though, so I can live with that. The music really wasn't all that good, though.
Just as a lot of other people ITT, I thought the demo was really blurry in handheld mode but looked pretty good docked. Interesting that it's still sub-720p. 60fps is far more important to me though, so I can live with that. The music really wasn't all that good, though.
Oh, music is definitely one of those subjective things. I hate it but that's how music criticism goes! That part is pure opinion and I'd hope someone would enjoy it!
I'm just disappointed because music is so important to platform games for me - without a great soundtrack, the experience is lessened quite a bit. That's definitely true here.
if the devs choose to update their build. it's not best practice to do so while in development though
You can get a glimpse at some other musics here. While I don't hate that much the main theme, I get your resentment of it, but the other tracks sounds okay:
Nah I guess you are both right. They can implement updates to engine and there have been cases of it working it out (most famously for me the UE4 patch in Tekken 7 that reduced the lag) but no matter what it is always work because you at least have to check everything still works.
Btw anyone think there's a chance performance improves for launch?
X2 was just not possible and would have meant a higher cost of the Switch. It wouldn't give the increase in power needed to run this game at 720p60 anyway.
Performance ? The DF video shows that there's no issues with performance.
Oh yeah. Very unlikely imo, usually when a game is preloadable it's because it's done. There may be a day one patch that slightly improves things but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Well, the game has been done for a long while (certainly around early January, perhaps before Christmas). That's a long lead time if they wanted to, but they'd be quite happy where they're at right now and this isn't a massive budget title, so I wouldn't count on it.
Holy shit at that soundtrack, what a insane difference with the very first game. A even bigger holy shit at that Yoshi New Island soundtrack, good lord.
I wish they would bring some great music back and also actually provide a challenge when it comes to the game itself. I really miss that in some of their platformers. First Kirby and now Yoshi too.
I wish they would bring some great music back and also actually provide a challenge when it comes to the game itself. I really miss that in some of their platformers. First Kirby and now Yoshi too.
Yeah I agree completely, the first game gave you a real sense of adventure in the soundtrack but all these later games threw that out in favour of mostly cutesy relaxed music.
Very nice.
Great to see UE in 60fps games on switch.
TAA + temporal upscale would have been nice to see, although most likely game was too late in development for them to consider it.
Things are getting even better for UE in future, it seems that 4.22 handles instancing even better than previous versions and performance can see nice boost.
Great to see UE in 60fps games on switch.
TAA + temporal upscale would have been nice to see, although most likely game was too late in development for them to consider it.
Things are getting even better for UE in future, it seems that 4.22 handles instancing even better than previous versions and performance can see nice boost.
Yeah me too wth is going on?, and I thought I had a great pair of eyes for these things omg
Edit: Also I hate the music, it's the same shitty off-key sounding flute they're using in the LA remake, it's awful.
Ever since I heard Yoshi's Crafted World was running on UE4, I figured it was more so a "tech demo" that ultimately became a full game. I believe I remember a quote saying Nintendo had "mastered" the UE4 engine. If so, are we going to start seeing even more first-party games using UE4?
The overly aggressive DOF and the low resolution make this quite unpleasant to look at sometimes. It's okay for some games to be twee and easy but I wish we would one day get another EAD made Yoshi game that gives us a good challenge and a Koji Kondo soundtrack.
That resolution is shocking, what is it about UE4 that makes it so hard to have good rez/performance on the Switch. Travis Strikes Again was also noticeably low res on Switch even though it didn't look to be doing anything too crazy either.
Keep in mind that Octopath traveler employs similar graphical and post processing effects as Yoshi and was only 720p and 30fps docked.
It would have been cool if Yoshi included an option to turn off the DOF among other effects to get a resolution boost if that's what the player wants.
It would have been cool if Yoshi included an option to turn off the DOF among other effects to get a resolution boost if that's what the player wants.
Wow, lowest IQ for a 1st party game? I'm sure they can increase IQ a little by June. Hopefully 720p locked. Still though, a first for Nintendo and makes 900p seem the norm by comparison. I bet a Switch pro could get 900-1080p dynamic, if Nintendo is willing to throw in a patch to boost resolution that far down the road...
If the demo is indicative of the entire game's gameplay (slow and exploration focused rather than focused on platforming) I'd have prefered for them to choose resolution over framerate. Image quality in the first level was really bad and - I haven't watched the video yet - I suppose that one is on the higher side of the dynamic resolution.
This. So much this. As far as I can tell they've made a game for very young kids (or at least the demo sells it that way.) Even my 7 (soon to be 8) year old was growing bored with the lack of challenge and remarked that she might be too old for it.
Sounds to me like they're doing that awful thing they did in Yoshi's Island DS and Yoshi's New Island of recycling remixing the main theme in 80% of the stage tracks. I mean, some do end up sounding better than the original theme itself (the space/underwater stage remix is pretty chill), but it's still pretty disappointing.
I can't imagine it's Tomoya Tomita (Kirby's Epic Yarn, Yoshi's Woolly World) doing the music for this, it just can't be.
The previous Wooly World composer had to move and left Good Feel to go freelance and apparently for whatever reason Good Feel didn't pick him back up for this title.
It' a shame, but it is what it is.