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Digital Foundry's Best Gaming Tech of 2017
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Yeah, while we're on the topic of BF2. I agree with some posts that it does certain things VERY well, but it's also a very inconsistent package. The quality is not maintained through out. In some areas/cases it even looks worse than BF1.
Horizon is a far more cohesive and consistent package through out. Consistency should also be important rather than just flashing a few impressive screenshots when the entire package isn't that same quality.
Horizon is a far more cohesive and consistent package through out. Consistency should also be important rather than just flashing a few impressive screenshots when the entire package isn't that same quality.
did you find it jarring in battlefield 1 as well? i find it is done very well, at least on pc. not sure if/how its downgraded for console versions
Didn't DF say in this video that the LOD issues have been resolved and the game looks its best again?
DoF issues have mostly been resolved. After they were first introduced in Patch 1.03 i believe, the subsequent one's have been bringing it back in line with how the LoD was when the game launched. Performance is also a lot better than at launch.
The video is about best gaming tech 2017. I only stated I find BF2 to be the best in my opinion. Just because it wasn't in the video doesn't mean the topic on hand, best gaming tech 2017, excludes everything else. There's nothing wrong with giving a opinion on any said topic that doesn't match the poster. That's what democracy is for
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It should be quite obvious that the discussion is supposed to be about the games listed in the video, and sure, you can talk about other titles.
Not be like ''Hey lets post pics from BF2 from my Xbox One X'' and have nothing else be about the original topic.
Really verging on the edge of reasonable huh. I think you know fully well what you are doing. Its disappointing though that you throw up defense mechanisms when its clear cut and all.
Where else would I post my pics from? I only posted 4 shots that I found to be amazing. For a game I find the be very technial in graphics. In a thread about best tech in games. Nothing crazy and out of proportion you are taking it to. Keep calm
... But has nothing to do with the video of the thread. It isnt even listed. You seem to think that the topic of the thread is ''Best tech in games'' in a general sense, when it is about ''Digital Foundry's best gaming tech of 2017''.
There is a difference and you are unaware of it (i hope).
Lol, i am calm. What's with the passive concerning here?
Guys lets get back to the topic at hand ..
Another subtle thing the game does which adds to the immersion. Real time puddle formation and evaporation
Yes. I know this is not the first game that's done this. It just adds to the overall package.
i-e Horizon ZD.
Another subtle thing the game does which adds to the immersion. Real time puddle formation and evaporation
Yes. I know this is not the first game that's done this. It just adds to the overall package.
Just read a post where somebody came at the necks of the NPCs in Horizon. Some of my best pictures taken in the game are just headshots of NPCs.
See my post got criticized, but this is the other end of the spectrum. I fail to see how a puddle evaporating somewhere in the world over time is adding to the player’s immersion lolGuys lets get back to the topic at hand ..
i-e Horizon ZD.
Another subtle thing the game does which adds to the immersion. Real time puddle formation and evaporation
Yes. I know this is not the first game that's done this. It just adds to the overall package.
How is this a proof of “real time puddle formation”? Seems like DF completely missed this. Are there more examples of this?
Edit: I searched and could not find any information about the said real time tech other than this gif. GG tech slides dont mention anything of this nature either. This could very well just be a long long decal fade out time.
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Congrats to Guerrilla for their achievement. I've recently upgraded some PC components but it sometimes feels superfluous. Improved performance is improved performance, but PC gaming isn't what it used to be when the likes of Doom 3, Half LIfe 2, Far Cry, or Crysis would come around dropping jaws in ways consoles couldn't touch. These days I'm marveling at Horizon and Lost Legacy.
Played Origins and HZ on a PRO and Horizon was easily the most impressive game I have played this year.
Origins looked good too but Horizon was just better.
Why I am not surprised? Congrats to Guerilla Games. I hope Death Stranding can push things even much further (which it already does).
I can't comment on your post being criticized :p But this is just one more part of the technical package which makes Horizon as impressive as a lot of people have been saying through out the thread.
This is me in no way saying any other game is bad or lesser. I'm just a firm believer that out of all the great technological games this year, Horizon stood a little above the pack.
Guys lets get back to the topic at hand ..
i-e Horizon ZD.
Another subtle thing the game does which adds to the immersion. Real time puddle formation and evaporation
Yes. I know this is not the first game that's done this. It just adds to the overall package.
I haven't analyzed HZD yet, but in BOTW, a water plane beneath the terrain is raised or lowered to produce the effect.
I'd argue now is the time PC gaming is most impressive nowadays, what with almost everything being released everywhere and most of multiplats performing vastly better on PC (provided you have the hardware, obviously).
Cant say i agree. I feel it was at its peak from the late 90s to mid 2000s
Agree. Battlefront 2 can look jaw dropping, especially in Starfighter assault and certain maps, but it has a considerable amount of tecnical problems such as pop ins for example.
The rock solid 60 fps (server issues aside) are glorious and make the game a joy to play.
But whatever fancy real time tech you are claiming is happening in the gif, isn’t correct. There no is ‘puddle formation’ going on in the gif. And the ‘evaporation’ simply looks like decals fading out. Unless its a documented feature implemented in the game, I think you got a little carried away there.
While I find AC has very impressive production values in terms of world creation and design, that doesn't extent to presentation. In terms of presentation, it is pretty lacking, particularly when compared to Horizon and Witcher 3.
Pic of cloud shadows.
Nice find. Wonder why the shadows weren't being produced in the videos I've watched.
Dark1x, so you are making a best tech list. You know that many considers Battlefront 2 to belong in such list. But you won't even try it, not to destroy your argument "only games that I played"
Noticed how games requiring continuous operation, implements a way to get continuous income (ie multiplayer games with dedicated servers, none on your list)
What would be an acceptable way to solve this problem? (But I guess that is a discussion for another thread)
Noticed how games requiring continuous operation, implements a way to get continuous income (ie multiplayer games with dedicated servers, none on your list)
What would be an acceptable way to solve this problem? (But I guess that is a discussion for another thread)
This is exactly where I am. Water is gorgeous but there is something HZD has over AC. Maybe its the thing that GG did to always show the environment at its best?
The other guys played it and weighed in. Tom is the one that suggest Nex Machina which I agree with whole heartedly.
None of them felt strongly enough to add Battlefront 2. If anyone had argued heavily for it, I would have included it. BF2 just doesn’t offer an improved enough experience visually over the first. It’s good but nothing I feel the need to highlight. It’s another Frostbite Game doing Frostbite things albeit very well. It doesn’t feel like anything new at this point.
I have sampled the game pre-release and using someone else’s account so I have seen the game in action, I should note, I just haven’t spent that much time with it (the campaign is horrible from what I played and MP wasn’t fun)
It’s true, though, that I am very turned off by the business decisions which seemingly ruined the game. I didn’t support it as I didn’t purchase it or cover it.
Still, the tech is good and it probably would have made a top 10 list along with Uncharted and GT Sport. It’s a good continuation of what was started in the last game but not far beyond that. Going for a top 7 was more of an experiment than anything else versus a top 10 which is why I went with it.
This so much. I wish I could play Horizon again for the first time. It truly is the game of the generation right now. A masterpiece.
He’s the one that recommended I check out Claybook and, sure enough, it’s impressive.
Some pics of ACO NPC faces. Whoever posted that pic earlier in the thread clearly wasn't showing how random NPCs look. It's easy to find bad shots on any game ;)
I wonder if the recent update on the X allowed higher fidelity in npcs since it increased memory for textures/lod on the X
I wonder if the recent update on the X allowed higher fidelity in npcs since it increased memory for textures/lod on the X
Some pics of ACO NPC faces. Whoever posted that pic earlier in the thread clearly wasn't showing how random NPCs look. It's easy to find bad shots on any game ;)
I wonder if the recent update on the X allowed higher fidelity in npcs since it increased memory for textures/lod on the X
Nice hair.
That's definitely not what's happening in Horizon. Note that the puddle on the right disappears more quickly, despite being at a lower elevation than the central puddles.
It's likely "just" a shader being dialed up and down, but it seems more complex than just rote change over time. Note how the puddle in the sun disappears more quickly than the ones in the shade; this looks like a simulation of evaporation. (I'm unaware of Guerrilla talking about this specifically, but I'm pretty sure they mentioned using a ground snow shader that builds up differentially based on the angle of the surface it's on. The idea seems similar.)
Those all look far worse than horizon tho, which i believe was the original comparison brought upSome pics of ACO NPC faces. Whoever posted that pic earlier in the thread clearly wasn't showing how random NPCs look. It's easy to find bad shots on any game ;)
I wonder if the recent update on the X allowed higher fidelity in npcs since it increased memory for textures/lod on the X
Far worse? Hyperbole much
Also my pics are of npc who aren't involved in any side quests or such. Of course those type of npc get more detailed like in Horizon
Its clear you havent seen horizon in person
Digital Foundry's Best Gaming Tech of 2017
Thats a random npc. If you dont think theres a large gap then we just just have wildly different perceptions