I did ;) 1800cb on pro showing a lot of aliasing and blurriness compared to ~1800p native on the X. Performance and graphics mode higher fps around 10fps more than pro
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DigitalFoundry: Monster Hunter World Analysis (PS4/Pro/Xbox One/X)
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I did ;) 1800cb on pro showing a lot of aliasing and blurriness compared to ~1800p native on the X. Performance and graphics mode higher fps around 10fps more than pro
It's a comparison John does himself in the video, and just in terms of performance, it's actually pretty much the case.
Thanks?
I understand there is a difference. Just saying I have no issues playing on a PS4 slim. Maybe others on the fence who typically don't notice frame rates like me (unless there are 10+ frame drops into teens) will find value in it and think "oh I can get this on PS4 or Xbox One and not worry about performance for me personally." Maybe no one will. Idk
The brightness and gamma are my biggest complaints. Very washed out, and somehow HDR makes it look worse. Glad DF touched on it.
Great video once again, thank you. Without option to lock fps at 30 I guess I'll just wait for PC version. So there is really no difference on Pro and X versions, nice to know.
Yesterday while playing I had my character standing idle in the main hub near the lift by the canteen and I noticed a really horrendous quasi transparent extremely low res set of tile patterned artifacts on my character leg and the lower part of lift. Has anyone else encountered something like this? What the hell could it be?
Playing on original (non slim) PS4, but I didn't get a screencap, I'll try to recreate and post if needed.
Playing on original (non slim) PS4, but I didn't get a screencap, I'll try to recreate and post if needed.
I like that they do full reports. 22 minutes really that big of a commitment?
Sticking with graphics mode on the X1X. If they add a cap, i'll probably switch to resolution, but its just too jerky in that mode for me.
But really, performance of this game is awful for such a big release. Why the hell don't companies add a cap for 30fps if the performance is so unstable? Is it a cultural thing? FROM Software and Namco Bandai don't seem to give a shit about frame pacing or locking to 30fps either.
But really, performance of this game is awful for such a big release. Why the hell don't companies add a cap for 30fps if the performance is so unstable? Is it a cultural thing? FROM Software and Namco Bandai don't seem to give a shit about frame pacing or locking to 30fps either.
I think much more people would buy this game if they capped the FPS at 30FPS on all consoles and lowered the resolutions a bit.
Yeah man, I have bad flashbacks to original Quantum Break and how it basically cut framerate in half if you turned off their reconstruction method.
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I do agree with that especially when they start fighting each other. There aint no other game I can compare that too. Thats truly a spectacle to me. Even the best set pieces in 3rd person and shooting games dont come close.
Both of the base consoles seem to be limited by CPU more than GPU in this game, so dropping the resolution even further doesn't seem like it would help.
Dont take it personally man
The whole point of DF topics are to discuss performance metrics and is usually filled with people wanting to know the optimum way to play or base their decision on whether to invest time and money now or wait for the best of the best
PC users gonna eat once again if they can somehow get the port up to snuff
As you said its perfectly playable and acceptable on base PS4 for those used to playing games regardless of minor performance issues.
Is the methodology basically looking for contrasting diagonal lines and counting distinct "steps" for each axis, per set number of pixels? I'm started getting curious about this myself.
Seems pretty rough but some of the summary sounds wrong, it says 1080p and same graphics in both resolution and performance mode but one gets higher fps? Wouldn't something have to give for higher fps? Or I'm misreading it, it's written... weirdly...
Damn shame that even PRO & 1X is still judder filled. I did notice the blurring on base PS4 and honestly thought it was a dynamic resolution.
Lucky enough the game is enjoyable to the point where I don't hang up on the technical pitfalls. Looking forward to seeing Monster Hunter locked 60fps at 1080 on my PC.
Lucky enough the game is enjoyable to the point where I don't hang up on the technical pitfalls. Looking forward to seeing Monster Hunter locked 60fps at 1080 on my PC.
The PS4 version could definitely use a cap though. There's no reason to allow the framerate to jump to 32fps.
Not even a stable 30fps for the base ps4,quiet disappointing. Uuggghhh...
Well,i will wait for the pc version.
Well,i will wait for the pc version.
Yeah, seriously. I mentioned this in the OT but the animations they use for the monster vs. monster fights are just ... incredible. More than once last night I completely stopped running around just so I could watch an insane monster fight go down.
Thanks John for giving us some stats this time. I appreciate it. ;-)
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I'm rank 5 currently, lol. Only had time to play two nights this week.
Yea... glad to hear about One X's performance.
But, I'll wait for PC...IF they have a beta test before release that is.
This launch has taught me a lesson about Capcom.
But, I'll wait for PC...IF they have a beta test before release that is.
This launch has taught me a lesson about Capcom.
That means the performance in Graphics mode is roughly the same as the performance in Resolution mode. Weird as it sounds.
John mentions playing in the Resolution mode was his preferred way on the Pro because there's minimal performance difference between that and 1080p Graphics mode and the extra resolution adds more value. Plus the resolution mode on Pro is pushing more detail than the resolution mode on XBX.
I remember seeing this once before in the PS3 version of Just Cause 2 which would retain native 720p whenever you're still but resolution would drop as soon as the player or camera start moving.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-justcause2-face-off
Yes, that's exactly right.
You basically find a run of clear, visible pixels in a line with visible steps between them. You have to measure out a sample number (like 60 pixels) using something like MS Paint and then basically count the steps leading up to the end. If you get 48 steps out of a 60 pixel sample, you simply do 48/60 = 0.8 and then multiply the result by the resolution of the image (2160p in this case). 0.8*2160 = 1728
Right, this game more then any other in recent memory should have shipped locked at 30fps, with the obvious exception of the framerate mode. If the game shipped capped and evenly paced at 30fps, people would be singing its praises on 3 of the 4 platforms right now. Poor OG X1 is a lost cause without major optimizations.
Nope. It's literally there in the post you quoted.
As above.
The screenshots in the thread are better quality than DFs vid (which is locked the 1080p quality here for some reason?). I think it looks underwhelming and performance is pants. I don't need to play the game to make that statement.
The comparison made by John its about the evolution of the same engine (Capcom MT Framework) and how common its predecessors have this same problem about unlock frame rate.
I hoped for a bit more from the 1X version. Been playing in resolution mode and it felt really good. A little framey in places but nothing terrible.
Hoping Capcom revisit what the 1X can do and push things a little more. Higher resolution textures would be a great addition since the 1X has more memory to play with.
The fact the 1X could probably do CB at the same res and hit out a good framerate is something Capcom should look into.
Hoping Capcom revisit what the 1X can do and push things a little more. Higher resolution textures would be a great addition since the 1X has more memory to play with.
The fact the 1X could probably do CB at the same res and hit out a good framerate is something Capcom should look into.
The Xbox One version is probably the first console game I've played that felt like playing a game on a bad PC. I've played games that ran bad, but this really feels like it's not the way the game was intended to be played. It's a bummer and has me worried for the future of other base Xbox One games.
It seems like they took the base Xbox One version and just kinda dialed some things up rather than really fleshing out what the X would be able to do. I mean, I don't really blame them since who knew how the game was going to sell on the Xbox One but it would be nice to see it updated to hopefully improve the resolution mode a bit more.