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Disco Elysium (Dialogue Focused CRPG) Releasing on October 15th + New Trailer
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I think the second part of the quote is important to the context: the character is not simply black, but a black supremacist. His race is important insofar as it plays into his beliefs, and thus the way the PC can interact with him.
Yeah, that would make sense.
Nope, they seem pretty focused on getting this version out.
I both do and don't want more info. I just really want to read impressions of the first hour. Maybe a video that's a deep-dive video that I can use to sell friends on the game. But nothing too spoiler-y! Gah...I haven't been this excited for a game for a long time.
hello this is Seniór Editor of GameReview.Website, i appear to have misplaced my review copy and need a new one posthaste. thank you.
Dear Seniór Editor of GameReview.Website,
I would like to oblige your request, but unfortunately, I am Random Punter X, who happened to see this on twitter. I suggest you take your request to the Disco Elysium press team.
Regards,
Random Punter X
Thanks a bunch.
40 euros sounds nice. Will have to wait for, not enough money right now and I have a backlog on switch, which is a pity becuase it looks amazing.
Truly an early-game power move. I wonder if it'll ever come back to you in a HP Lovecraft's "The Outsider" kind of a way.
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I've been sold on the setting, writing, esoteric approach for a while. The early impressions have given me hope that they stuck the landing in terms of choices and RPG-ness
My concern is the story and characterizations. That will elevate or annihilate this game. They have to do compelling mysteries, they have to flesh out a noir-ish city, they have to walk a super thin line along political/societal themes. Too much in one direction and it becomes overwrought or insensitive or questionable, too much in the other and it becomes hollow and pretentious...
Most games can barely manage a singular linear intimate narrative, and fewer still attempt mystery thrillers
My concern is the story and characterizations. That will elevate or annihilate this game. They have to do compelling mysteries, they have to flesh out a noir-ish city, they have to walk a super thin line along political/societal themes. Too much in one direction and it becomes overwrought or insensitive or questionable, too much in the other and it becomes hollow and pretentious...
Most games can barely manage a singular linear intimate narrative, and fewer still attempt mystery thrillers
Now that I think about it, they have been surprisingly coy about the main story. Presumably it's more than just making it through the week as a down and out shitty detective.
I'm assuming it'll be solving that murder. I'm not sure they need anything grand, standard detective fiction doesn't require a big conspiracy, just a tangled web of lies.
I'm not particularly concerned about main storyline, though then again, that stuff is hardly ever the main focus with CRPGs for me. I don't even remember what happens in the main stories of Pillars of Eternity, Baldur's Gate 2, Fallout 2 and the like, it's all about the side quests and the world and the characters and dialogue for me.
That said, I'll certainly enjoy a good story if there is one and I love a good mystery.
That said, I'll certainly enjoy a good story if there is one and I love a good mystery.
I was under the impression that there's a number of cases. They may be related, but I don't think it's just one murder.
If we go from the Planescape: Torment inspiration, I'd think the story would be more introspective and about the main character rather than the specific case(s).
Agreed.
Honestly, the stars may really need to align in a special way in order to pull this one off. It just seems so ambitious.
I'm already seeing rumblings about how even the possibility of letting the player roleplay as a wretched character is somehow politically incorrect. And casual viewers not understanding the (admittedly purported) nuance the game is striving for can easily paint a target on the production, deeming it "insensitive" and not fit for viewing. I can only imagine how easily the game can get dragged by reactionary types unwilling to consider how skillful nuance works in media.
I'm hyped beyond belief for Disco, but at the same time I'm trying to temper my expectations. Is it enough to celebrate the game for what it's trying to do, the avenues it's trying to explore, even if it falls short of expectations? I honestly can't think of many (quite frankly any) games tackling the diverse internal mechanisms of the individual at this level of granularity. Everything so often plays in shades of black & white, esp. in this medium. I'm already viewing the mere attempt found in Disco as a success regardless of "boots on the ground success" ratio.
In this sense I don't think the game necessarily needs to be a grand slam in order to sit well with me. As long as I get an impression that it's coming from a place of genuine effort and intellectual honesty, I'm not sure what else I can ask for.
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They're a bunch of dudes (at least two of the writers are women) who have been in London for the better part of the development, to be more accurate.
And the trend of being extremely patronizing towards Eastern Europe continues...
Definitely not watching any more footage, I'm sold.
And no offense meant to Estonians. It's been my experience that developers in any one country often struggle giving depth to cultures (or fictional analogues of cultures) outside their own. But we'll see!
And no offense meant to Estonians. It's been my experience that developers in any one country often struggle giving depth to cultures (or fictional analogues of cultures) outside their own. But we'll see!
Only skimmed through the opening archetype (your "class") selection, designating stat points and selecting skills
Can I just say how gorgeous the UI is? What a refreshing visual style compared the usual CRPG menu appearances
Can I just say how gorgeous the UI is? What a refreshing visual style compared the usual CRPG menu appearances
Yeah I just watched the stat selection and then skimmed through a bit near the end of the video just to actually see uncut footage of the game for once with full audio. Speaking of audio the game really sounds fantastic, it makes it feel very lively despite reading a text box most of the time.
Regarding stat selection, I'm a little confused how it works. It looks like you choose how much points to put into your 4 base stats, and then each skill under that stat has that amount. So 3 in Motorics means you get +3 to start with every single skill under that stat. I thought maybe you had an allotment of points to put into whatever skills you want limited categorically by your stats, i.e. 3 in Motorics gives you 18 points to divide how you want across those six stats. Maybe you can still do that and the player in the video just didn't? I kind of hope so - I like the idea of being really good at perception but having shit hand-eye coordination for instance. But perhaps that's giving too much decision power to the player from the get go with not enough room to grow.
Regarding stat selection, I'm a little confused how it works. It looks like you choose how much points to put into your 4 base stats, and then each skill under that stat has that amount. So 3 in Motorics means you get +3 to start with every single skill under that stat. I thought maybe you had an allotment of points to put into whatever skills you want limited categorically by your stats, i.e. 3 in Motorics gives you 18 points to divide how you want across those six stats. Maybe you can still do that and the player in the video just didn't? I kind of hope so - I like the idea of being really good at perception but having shit hand-eye coordination for instance. But perhaps that's giving too much decision power to the player from the get go with not enough room to grow.
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From the looks of it you choose your attributes and on the skill side just choose a "signature skill" at the start and level up skills as you gain and spend XP through the game.
The way the skill checks work, you add both the relevant attribute as well as the skill ranks (plus and misc modifiers) to the roll.
It doesn't look like you get to invest points in the individual skills in a category that way. At least, going by what is present in those UI screens there doesn't seem to be that option. It makes sense to me with how they've categorized the skills underneath the attributes.
Going by the release trailer snapshot you will be able to invest individual points when leveling up at least.
That's what I figured from looking at the UI (unless those colored plus signs on the left let you micromanage the point distribution). That definitely changes how I perceive character creation but it's no biggy.
Yeah that much I know.
Very well said! Yes --- the space that Disco Elysium breaks open, the possibilities that its design reveals; these are already worth more to me than the entire genre itself.
Any idea if we'll be able to pre-purchese? It apparently adds visibility on Steam and whatnot.
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