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Disney+’s Surprise Biggest Threat Is… Netflix Loyalty

FaceHugger

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Oct 27, 2017
7,897
Huh. I already cancelled Hulu+ in anticipation of Disney+ (every show I was watching concluded until next season, not a big loss).
 

Astronut325

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Oct 27, 2017
3,348
Los Angeles, CA
I'm likely ditching a full year sub to Netflix when Disney+ launches. I only have Netflix for kids content. My wife and I aren't interested in anything Netflix offers except Stranger Things and Sacred Games (which ended?).
 

Critch

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Dec 10, 2017
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You can get both services for under $20.00. The cost of either of the services is a lunch, and not a nice one. Even if you combined all the major services, you're still likely paying under what cable costs.

It's easy to be 'loyal' to something that costs almost nothing but is always there if you want it. I'll be loyal to Disney+ just because its easy access to a ton of things I love and want access to at any time. Netflix is similar. Even CBS All access. The amount they're charging for what you're getting is like stealing.
 

P-MAC

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Nov 15, 2017
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It’s easy to say that now when people are used to Netflix and have been using it for years.

But content is what matters.

As the Disney+ library grows this will be a much more difficult question to answer and a few major exclusives can change everything very easily.
 

Fafalada

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Oct 27, 2017
1,375
imagine being loyal to a corporation you pay lol
I'm not even sure this has anything to do with loyalty. I tried every major streaming service available to date and most of them are pretty much designed to actively drive users away. Eg. I've used 6+ months or so of HBO Now and Hulu each since 2013, usually for specific content pieces - and most of what I remember of that usage is associated with constant service and UX frustrations, rather than the content I watched.
Disney+ banking mostly on their content pedigree shows no indications so far it'll be much better in the above respects - but I guess we'll see in a month or so.
 

Wishbone Ash

The Fallen
Oct 29, 2017
889
Michigan
I don't personally see any of the services as prohibitive, and if you're the type to not want to stick with multiple services, you can easily subscribe to the one with the shows you want to watch on a monthly basis. Edit-- except Amazon Prime, I suppose, but I consider that a nice extra for what I originally subscribed for anyway and their shows tend to be pretty good and much more focused.

I hesitantly bought into the Disney + service after the third time that discounted rate popped up on my radar, and I'm sure I'll get plenty of value out of just the Star Wars/Marvel shows and Simpsons catalog.

It's not a matter of money, it's just too many services to remember to even check up on. Out of all of them, Hulu would most likely get the axe from me because I can't think of a single exclusive I've watched since Futureman, but I know I'll eventually find something else on there to see
 

AHA-Lambda

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Oct 25, 2017
4,052
Disney+ is to Netflix what Nintendo is to Sony/Microsoft. It is not intended to be a direct competitor that replaces the service as your sole streaming product, it's intended to be an add-on, which is why it costs half the price. The premise of this article is stupid.
This. It's absolutely not an either or, I'm quite excited for Disney+ but there's just no way it'd kill netflix for me.
 

Mobu

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Oct 28, 2017
3,123
Disney plus seems live a marvel/sw fest so yeah, not interested either

I do think Netflix will lose a lot of popularity in the next years as companies pull their shit out for their own streaming services
 

JoeInky

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Oct 25, 2017
998
it's less loyalty and more not having the time or money to be spending on 50 different subscription services.
 

Kasai

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Jan 24, 2018
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I use Hulu way more than Netflix, but Netflix had The Good Place seasons 1-3, so I stay subscribed to watch it, at least until they pull it for Peacock or whatever they're calling their thing.

I'm totally getting Disney+ though.

All star wars movies, all Marvel movies, and all the classic cartoons I grew up with including Gargoyles, Dave the Barbarian, and Brandy and Mr Whiskers.
 

Fusionfrenzy

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Aug 2, 2019
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imagine being loyal to a corporation you pay lol
What's actually wrong with that, though? What is wrong with supporting a service you enjoy and hope continues to exist? I always use the same mechanic because he is trustworthy and reliable. I use the same electronics store cos their customer service has always been amazing. I sub to Spotify even though its UI could be better because I love the service and don't want it to be consumed by Apple Music or Amazon.

There is nothing wrong with supporting a service, even from a huge company, if you enjoy it, as long as you aren't paying blindly for it only because of 'loyalty'
 

Bengraven

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Oct 26, 2017
1,804
You know I barely watch anything on Netflix, if ever, and sometimes when I’m bored will unconsciously open the Netflix app and still not watch something. And yet I’m paying each month for it and I would feel at a loss without it. So I can see where they are coming from.
 

lasthope106

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Oct 25, 2017
543
Iowa USA
Companies that are first to a market generally hold that market share for a long time, even when there are better alternatives.

I subscribe to pretty much all the streaming services, and I have been playing with the idea of canceling Netflix for a few years, and yet I still a subscriber. Just when I think I finally had it, some new show comes along, or a movie. The amount of content being produced is staggering, and it has content for a lot of languages and world regions. I only have a few things that are must watch on netflix and I don't intend to rewatch them in a while, but if they keep producing original content over the next decade they will have a lot of shows and movies that people will have nostalgia for.

In other words, Netflix is here to stay.
 

mrmoose

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Nov 13, 2017
7,319
You can get both services for under $20.00. The cost of either of the services is a lunch, and not a nice one. Even if you combined all the major services, you're still likely paying under what cable costs.

It's easy to be 'loyal' to something that costs almost nothing but is always there if you want it. I'll be loyal to Disney+ just because its easy access to a ton of things I love and want access to at any time. Netflix is similar. Even CBS All access. The amount they're charging for what you're getting is like stealing.
This poll (again, done by an investment firm) shows that the vast majority of those polled have no interest in having both, though, they are going to stick with Netflix and aren't even considering Disney+.

And I do think even as cheap as they are they add up, so, for instance, I don't see Apple TV+ being worth it, at least not initially. Maybe to subscribe to for a month at a time every six months if I really really want to see the content. There's also the "there's only so much time in the day" thing. With kids, who despite health warnings have a ton of time to watch tv, subscribing is a no brainer, though.
 

Retroarnold

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Nov 5, 2017
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If the price is right in the UK then I'll sign up to Disney, but that doesn't mean I'm going to quit Netflix or Prime.
 

Orzix

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Oct 30, 2017
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Weird i'm getting both anyway mostly because of kids an i was late on netflix bandwagon so many things to watch!
 

Kyrios

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's got the interest of a lot of people that I know, including myself, that do not have any subscription with any other streaming service.

Is this when you sit your kids in front of Disney+ and have some kids-free time?
It's where you shoo the kids out of the room and turn on A Goofy Movie.
 

SuperL

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Nov 27, 2017
303
Netflix has been and continues to be the one of the only respites from the PG-13-ization of Hollywood and domination of capes***, things Disney+ will double down on. Artistically and creatively , they're almost unsupportable because of that.

Also, Disney's not even digging deep into their vault for it. Most of the stuff on it at launch is material that is easy to see elsewhere (mostly DVD/Blu-Ray).
 

Tom_Cody

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Oct 28, 2017
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I'm getting Disney + and keeping Netflix as well. The added cost to my entertainment budget is negligible. It's weird that it's being framed as "one or the other".
 

werezompire

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Oct 26, 2017
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I know my wife is actively excited to end our Netflix subscription and replace it with a Disney+ subscription. We already have a Hulu subscription which covers most of the current TV shows my wife & I watch, we don't like most of the Netflix original content (and it sounds like most of their big non-original content is going to scatter to the various other services within the next couple of years), and we've got a bunch of kids who love Disney stuff.
 

Danteyke223

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Oct 24, 2018
575
Having no horror or R rated content is just meh. Netflix and Amazon have some fun horror things. Disney will keep making PG13 movies and series
 

Menx64

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Oct 30, 2017
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Disney + wont be available in Latam in 2020, but they signed an agreement with Amazon... to sell or rent their content. Not even streaming, but jokes on them, because Amazon prime video is unavailable for most countries in Latam.
 

Rune Walsh

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Oct 25, 2017
1,612
Imagine seeing the trailer for The Mandalorian and not wanting to subscribe. /s

Honestly though, if you have kids, Disney+ is a no brainer.
 

Whiterose

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Oct 26, 2017
8,358
New York
Incorrect. Their highest threat is lack of adult movies. Not porn, but movies that are targetted towards the adult audience: Horror movies, R rated movies, thrillers, foreign movies, and more. Netflix retention is the symptom of their PG service.
 

BobLoblaw

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Oct 27, 2017
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Incorrect. Their highest threat is lack of adult movies. Not porn, but movies that are targetted towards the adult audience: Horror movies, R rated movies, thrillers, foreign movies, and more. Netflix retention is the symptom of their PG service.
This. No way I'm giving up my goddamn Narcos for D+ stuff.
 

MalcomFleX

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Sep 9, 2019
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Disney doesn’t have nearly the content and diversity of Netflix. I’ll try it for free but I won’t pay for it
 

thisismadness

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Oct 25, 2017
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glad I’m not the only person sick of all the streaming options. It’s the new cable.
Its still far better. If anything, its close to the ala-carte version of cable that people had been asking for. You shouldnt be piling up on all these services and paying for them perpetually. Pick the ones that have the programming you want to watch and drop them when you are done. All it takes is a few clicks.

Last time I had cable, even with the shittiest package, I was still paying $70 a month just to watch Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad, and it was only that “cheap” because I signed a contract for a year or two. And when I was finally done with it I had to call and let them first convince me to stay, then wait for them to send out some boxes, pack up the equipment and pay ups to pick it up.
 

Raonak

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Oct 29, 2017
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personally, for me it's less loyalty, and more that:

there's no fucking way i'm subscribing to any more video streaming services,
netflix has got a pretty diverse lineup of shows. movies, documentaries, cartoons, bollywood movies, anime, kids shit, adult shit.
and netflix's app and experience is pleasant enough to not bother unsubscribing.
Half the reason i use netfix is that their PS4 app is so good.


i got a free trial to amazon prime video and goddamn, what a miserable app experience.

actually i don't even know if disney+ is even coming to NZ. so it might not even be a problem.
 
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Darkonda

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May 23, 2018
572
I'm loyal to Netflix's content. For all the Netflix killer talk I don't see anything on Disney+, past, present, and future that would make me cancel my sub, not even my Prime sub.😒
 

Dezzy

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Oct 25, 2017
764
USA
I'm not loyal to Netflix as a brand, but they have the content I like. I looked at the Disney+ content list none of it appeals to me. I don't like Marvel or Star Wars, and I don't care about all the Disney made movies or family/kid friendly stuff they have on that list.