Disney+ is to Netflix what Nintendo is to Sony/Microsoft. It is not intended to be a direct competitor that replaces the service as your sole streaming product, it's intended to be an add-on, which is why it costs half the price. The premise of this article is stupid.
If you're rewatching something you haven't seen in years, that's fine. I like replaying old games every few years. The ones I mean, are the ones who literally only watch those shows, and do so seemingly on repeat. It's apparently pretty common, and even my friends do it (they'll leave The Office on repeat in the background and get quiet when their "favorite parts" come on).I don't rewatch Friends (never watched) but I love rewatching comedy shows like The Office, Seinfeld, 30 Rock, and stuff, it's entertaining. Also Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul is fun to rewatch after a while too.
I know you're getting quoted all over but I don't think people are fans of Netflix the same way people are fans of Nintendo or Apple or even other digital entertainment providers like Steam.
You shouldn't have to imagine. Gaming side is right over there and there are no shortage of fanboys and girls for one console or another.
The weird thing is that Netflix to my knowledge has no loyalty program... no "subscribe for a year and get a discount," none of that, so it's easy to drop and pick up later.
Not only that, but Netflix has conditioned people to just accept the content that's given to them. Before Netlix, who would actually seek out and watch a movie like Bright? Yet because it's on Netflix and convenient, people just spend their time consuming garbage they would have never watched in any other scenario.
And instead of buying or renting, I don't know how many people I've heard (even on Era) say, "I'll just wait for it to come to Netflix". When the reality is, most content will never come to Netflix. Yet people are more than content to limit their home media consumption to whatever is on Netflix.
You shouldn't have to imagine. Gaming side is right over there and there are no shortage of fanboys and girls for one console or another.
I mean, that was pretty much the entire MO of television even after 500 channels of cable came out.
The Disney+ and Hulu combined sub is still less than Netflix (which is something Disney will be offering at launch) so I'm not sure this is really true. Especially as fewer companies are going to be renewing their content for Netflix, at least exclusively. The big syndicated TV shows are all leaving in the next couple years for example.
Not only that, but Netflix has conditioned people to just accept the content that's given to them. Before Netlix, who would actually seek out and watch a movie like Bright? Yet because it's on Netflix and convenient, people just spend their time consuming garbage they would have never watched in any other scenario.
And instead of buying or renting, I don't know how many people I've heard (even on Era) say, "I'll just wait for it to come to Netflix". When the reality is, most content will never come to Netflix. Yet people are more than content to limit their home media consumption to whatever is on Netflix.
Lmao yeah Disney, the largest media empire on the planet, is shooting for 2nd place. And not banning Netflix ads on their own channels/services due to labeling them a direct competitor or anything. Get real. That's some pre-mature mental gymnastics if I've ever seen it.
I think that in the end Netflix is going to live or die by their exclusive content. Which the premium cable channels like HBO, Showtime, etc. have been doing forever.The Disney+ and Hulu combined sub is still less than Netflix (which is something Disney will be offering at launch) so I'm not sure this is really true. Especially as fewer companies are going to be renewing their content for Netflix, at least exclusively. The big syndicated TV shows are all leaving in the next couple years for example.
No doubt. But being a member of a gaming forum and feigning surprise about corporate fanboyism is like the very height of irony. 75% of any gaming-aligned forum is full of Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft/Steam/whatever fanboys and/or apologists. It's part of the experience, whether people admit they are biased or not.You don't need to go to gaming to find plenty of corporation fanboys.
Word.Netflix doesn't have loyalty deals because T-Mobile has them wrapped up in their only little money-saving phone plans. I won't abandon Netflix, but they need to look long and hard at their pricing compared to Disney's offerings. I pay 13/month because I'm too lazy to swap out The Office discs.
Oh yeah, Netflix as a service isn't going to go anywhere. I'm just not sure that in a few years it'll be the top dog like it is, especially if they continue to be the highest charging streaming service.I think that in the end Netflix is going to live or die by their exclusive content. Which the premium cable channels like HBO, Showtime, etc. have been doing forever.
people really are in a bubble on here when choosing to spend less money on fewer services is talked about like some kind of weird occult shit lmao
Considering their willingness to invest in their content, they probably will be. That will change on the day they begin to tighten the purse strings. They have to be willing to invest and get better.Oh yeah, Netflix as a service isn't going to go anywhere. I'm just not sure that in a few years it'll be the top dog like it is, especially if they continue to be the highest charging streaming service.
The weird thing is that Netflix to my knowledge has no loyalty program... no "subscribe for a year and get a discount," none of that, so it's easy to drop and pick up later.
I think they already have been doing that to a certain extent. I can't remember where I read it, but there's an article discussing how so many shows on Netflix are being cancelled as a way of keeping costs down since contract extensions increase the cost to produce a show. They do this because they bank on throwing other new content at you that they hope the viewers will move on to during the gap between seasons and they keep doing this to move you on to other content to lessen the blow of cancelling shows. If that is true, I think that strategy is going to burn them in a long run as people grow tired of shows they like always getting cancelled especially if they're done in a premature way without a proper conclusion. Now clearly it's not done for every show such as the big hitters like Stranger Things, but it certainly seems reasonable with how many Netflix "originals" they keep trying to throw at you. I also feel like this churn of trying to pump a ton of content is also taking an impact on their quality. It feels like a lot of things are not hitting like it used to be in their earlier days.Considering their willingness to invest in their content, they probably will be. That will change on the day they begin to tighten the purse strings.
Yea them cancelling good shows when it comes time to pay talent will be the reason they stall out. There are several shows that I really enjoyed that didn't get a proper ending, and many other shows that I worry will not get one in the future.I think they already have been doing that to a certain extent. I can't remember where I read it, but there's an article discussing how so many shows on Netflix are being cancelled as a way of keeping costs down since contract extensions increase the cost to produce a show. They do this because they bank on throwing other new content at you that they hope the viewers will move on to during the gap between seasons and they keep doing this to move you on to other content to lessen the blow of cancelling shows. If that is true, I think that strategy is going to burn them in a long run as people grow tired of shows they like always getting cancelled especially if they're done in a premature way without a proper conclusion. Now clearly it's not done for every show such as the big hitters like Stranger Things, but it certainly seems reasonable with how many Netflix "originals" they keep trying to throw at you. I also feel like this churn of trying to pump a ton of content is also taking an impact on their quality. It feels like a lot of things are not hitting like it used to be in their earlier days.
It's not like you can get invested in a streaming ecosystem. Regardless if you subscribe for a month or for 5 years, the price is always the same. It IS strange to stay loyal to a single service indefinitely when you can switch between services and different media consumption habits at will and for around the same price point. No one has to have 20 subscriptions at the same time.
Good luck selling people on advertisements in their streaming service.I mean, that was pretty much the entire MO of television even after 500 channels of cable came out.
The Disney+ and Hulu combined sub is still less than Netflix (which is something Disney will be offering at launch) so I'm not sure this is really true. Especially as fewer companies are going to be renewing their content for Netflix, at least exclusively. The big syndicated TV shows are all leaving in the next couple years for example.
I think they already have been doing that to a certain extent. I can't remember where I read it, but there's an article discussing how so many shows on Netflix are being cancelled as a way of keeping costs down since contract extensions increase the cost to produce a show. They do this because they bank on throwing other new content at you that they hope the viewers will move on to during the gap between seasons and they keep doing this to move you on to other content to lessen the blow of cancelling shows. If that is true, I think that strategy is going to burn them in a long run as people grow tired of shows they like always getting cancelled especially if they're done in a premature way without a proper conclusion. Now clearly it's not done for every show such as the big hitters like Stranger Things, but it certainly seems reasonable with how many Netflix "originals" they keep trying to throw at you. I also feel like this churn of trying to pump a ton of content is also taking an impact on their quality. It feels like a lot of things are not hitting like it used to be in their earlier days.
Disney has stated, in investor calls, that they don't believe Disney+ can or will completely supersede Netflix because the content they're offering is different enough and not nearly as numerous. It won't even be physically possible for Disney+ to supersede Netflix for years because Disney+ won't be available in as many countries as Netflix is. And of course they aren't showing Netflix ads because no matter how different your value proposition, it's still stupid to provide advertising for any product that can cut into your own.
As I said earlier, the biggest threat to Netflix right now is its own loss of content to other companies (including Disney). Disney doesn't have to directly attack Netflix to defeat them.
Haha wow. I'm now wondering where Gemini Man will fall.Yea. Watching the Aladin live action is definitely a step up over Bright.
For comedy I'm in the latter. Having a playlist with a type of shuffle feels like I have my own cable network of good shows in random order to jump in on.If you're rewatching something you haven't seen in years, that's fine. I like replaying old games every few years. The ones I mean, are the ones who literally only watch those shows, and do so seemingly on repeat. It's apparently pretty common, and even my friends do it (they'll leave The Office on repeat in the background and get quiet when their "favorite parts" come on).
This is where I'm at. Disney+ content is ok, but not "another sub" ok. At least for me. However, I also sub to Hulu+ and I believe it's sort of being rolled into D+ somehow, so likely I'll end up with Netflix & D+ vs today in Netflix & Hulu+.Disney+'s biggest failing is its lack of diverse entertainment. If you dont like cartoons, comic books or Star Wars, what do they got? Not much. Netflix simply has more interesting content. So does Amazon for that matter. But Disney's advantage is they also have Hulu, which has much more interesting content than D+.
Yea them cancelling good shows when it comes time to pay talent will be the reason they stall out. There are several shows that I really enjoyed that didn't get a proper ending, and many other shows that I worry will not get one in the future.
People are loyal to the access to content. I know several people that loathe iTunes but since they have so much product they purchased over the years, they grin and bear it.