Disney brings back James Gunn for Guardians of the Galaxy 3

Suiko

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Oct 25, 2017
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Im not. As you see above. I linked an article about this guys and the same time said i dont know who pizagatter is. I dont even know they are the same person.
If you really are this ignorant, then stop posting and do some basic prereq research before posting.
It is not the job of forum posters to educate you on common knowledge.
 

kurahador

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Oct 28, 2017
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"Hey guys...who is this <youtuber/alt-right/nazi> guy and why is he get blamed? Didn't he only <insert spreading hate method minus the hate>?"
"Yeah...but that <insert issue/controversy/tragedy> is worse. I'm not sure how he can be blamed for that."
 

kinoki

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Oct 28, 2017
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I will say it again. i didnt know this guy and didnt know he is an awful person.
Now you’ve learned the valuable lesson of source checking. All sources aren’t equal and some are just spouting lies. You’ve linked the latter. You’re now just a perpetrator of fake news. But, from now on: do better and make the world a better place. A world with a GotG-trilogy (in 2022).
 

EatChildren

Wonder from Down Under
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Oct 27, 2017
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Not being pedophile its enough.
There is no evidence to suggest James Gunn is a child rapist. What there is evidence for is James Gunn making crass, gross jokes that leverage paedophilia for shock value. He is not alone in this behaviour nor exclusive, and we know this humour is generally leveraged by people attempting shock and appal their audience. It's a subset of humour. I've done it in the past. Many others have as well, utilising jokes where the punchline cites murder, rape, paedophilia, racism, or some other extremely controversial, counter-culture, politically incorrect trope or topic. I know a baby/fridge joke that I'd tell in my teens that I'm sure this version of Gunn would have found hilarious.

Gunn has since gone on record to discuss this brand of humour (again, let's identify that this style of humour is not exclusive to Gunn, did not originate with Gunn, is not propagated exclusively by Gunn), and how he has grown as a person since. Gunn's brand of humour dating back about a 8 - 10 years and his career trajectory revolved around deliberately gross, controversial jokes and punchlines aimed at unsettling people and stirring the pot. He openly discussed how he sees futility in this style of humour in his later years, the pointlessness of it all, and the obliviousness towards those who may be negatively impacted by it.

Not only recognising his actions and public image, he made several clear, conscious efforts to rectify his behaviour over the years. He has demonstrated himsefl as a person not only acknowledging and admitting of guilt to the humour he subjected people too and the potential ramifications of it, but growth as an individual to the betterment of his own audience.

The website you linked to is run by Mike Cernovich, a hard right nationalist and prominent supporter of Donald Trump and the Republican parties values (multiplied to extremetities). He actively opposes all forms of liberalism, feminism, and racial equality. He believes date rape does not exist (and is a rapist himself), and that there is an ongoing white race genocide that must be combated. He is a vocal mouthpiece for alt-right white nationalist values and ideologies.

Gunn has, for a very long time now, been an open advocate for the exact opposite values. He is pro equality, heavily liberal, and openly anti-Trump. It is not surprise that Cernovich penned a hit piece on Gunn, the latter representing the exact political opposition of ideologies he embodies.

Whether or not you or I or anybody else finds Gunn's decade old jokes funny or shocking is irrelevant to the claim that Gunn is a paedophile, of which Cernovich so brazingly parrots. Emotional outrage is not evidence. Ideologically fuelled hit pieces are not evidence. A fridge/baby joke cited years ago does not make me a paedophile. Doesn't make Gunn one either.
 

Ryuhza

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
5,349
San Diego (was Creaking on GAF)
There is no evidence to suggest James Gunn is a child rapist. What there is evidence for is James Gunn making crass, gross jokes that leverage paedophilia for shock value. He is not alone in this behaviour nor exclusive, and we know this humour is generally leveraged by people attempting shock and appal their audience. It's a subset of humour. I've done it in the past. Many others have as well, utilising jokes where the punchline cites murder, rape, paedophilia, racism, or some other extremely controversial, counter-culture, politically incorrect trope or topic. I know a baby/fridge joke that I'd tell in my teens that I'm sure this version of Gunn would have found hilarious.

Gunn has since gone on record to discuss this brand of humour (again, let's identify that this style of humour is not exclusive to Gunn, did not originate with Gunn, is not propagated exclusively by Gunn), and how he has grown as a person since. Gunn's brand of humour dating back about a 8 - 10 years and his career trajectory revolved around deliberately gross, controversial jokes and punchlines aimed at unsettling people and stirring the pot. He openly discussed how he sees futility in this style of humour in his later years, the pointlessness of it all, and the obliviousness towards those who may be negatively impacted by it.

Not only recognising his actions and public image, he made several clear, conscious efforts to rectify his behaviour over the years. He has demonstrated himsefl as a person not only acknowledging and admitting of guilt to the humour he subjected people too and the potential ramifications of it, but growth as an individual to the betterment of his own audience.

The website you linked to is run by Mike Cernovich, a hard right nationalist and prominent supporter of Donald Trump and the Republican parties values (multiplied to extremetities). He actively opposes all forms of liberalism, feminism, and racial equality. He believes date rape does not exist (and is a rapist himself), and that there is an ongoing white race genocide that must be combated. He is a vocal mouthpiece for alt-right white nationalist values and ideologies.

Gunn has, for a very long time now, been an open advocate for the exact opposite values. He is pro equality, heavily liberal, and openly anti-Trump. It is not surprise that Cernovich penned a hit piece on Gunn, the latter representing the exact political opposition of ideologies he embodies.

Whether or not you or I or anybody else finds Gunn's decade old jokes funny or shocking is irrelevant to the claim that Gunn is a paedophile, of which Cernovich so brazingly parrots. Emotional outrage is not evidence. Ideologically fuelled hit pieces are not evidence. A fridge/baby joke cited years ago does not make me a paedophile. Doesn't make Gunn one either.
Dang, you put in the effort. You shouldn't have had to, but thanks for going so far to explain the situation to those who haven't educated themselves.

To those who still haven't educated themselves: educate yourselves.
 

Bartalome

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Nov 3, 2017
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Dang, you put in the effort. You shouldn't have had to, but thanks for going so far to explain the situation to those who haven't educated themselves.

To those who still haven't educated themselves: educate yourselves.
Nah, it’s far easier to join the club and be offended. Thank god for the ignore function. This place is in very bad state…
 

EatChildren

Wonder from Down Under
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Oct 27, 2017
2,109
Dang, you put in the effort. You shouldn't have had to, but thanks for going so far to explain the situation to those who haven't educated themselves.

To those who still haven't educated themselves: educate yourselves.
I figured the guy was trolling and just trying to stir shit, but I'd still rather confront it with the facts as they are.

I loathe this attitude online of 1) branding a person with accusations based on literally no actual evidence, just to incite hysteria and controversy, and 2) denying a person redemption and failing to recognise their ownership and growth.
 

Khanimus

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Oct 25, 2017
13,884
Greater Vancouver
For people who have really active opening night crowds for these movies, I'm fully expecting a cheer from the audience once 'Directed by James Gunn' appears on-screen.
 

Zeyphersan

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Oct 26, 2017
4,369
California
I figured the guy was trolling and just trying to stir shit, but I'd still rather confront it with the facts as they are.

I loathe this attitude online of 1) branding a person with accusations based on literally no actual evidence, just to incite hysteria and controversy, and 2) denying a person redemption and failing to recognise their ownership and growth.
To be fair, very few people in such a spotlight actually truly apologize. It’s rare.
 

ByteCulture

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Nov 1, 2017
547
We all made bad jokes kn the past but thats before growing up. Seems like a good guy nowdays.

Happy that he is back for GotG 3.

The whole past posting thing of Twitter will soon disappear i guess
 
Nov 1, 2017
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Whoa! The Mouse admitted it's mistake.

So, gunn is making both Suicide Squad and GOTG3. Nice!

My Satisfaction is immeasurable and my day is saved.
 

Callibretto

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Oct 25, 2017
2,831
Indonesia
Anyone watch Grace Randolph video about this? I'm aware for quite some time now that she really revel on stroking the flame war and like to keep controversy going.

She keep bringing up that Marvel never actually fire Gunn after all, dismiss the second chances narrative because according to her, Gunn was never fired. And start questioning about Disney core values etc, all while saying that it's okay because money and Disney is just luke any other studio
 

Stephen Home

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Dec 17, 2018
586
Anyone watch Grace Randolph video about this? I'm aware for quite some time now that she really revel on stroking the flame war and like to keep controversy going.

She keep bringing up that Marvel never actually fire Gunn after all, dismiss the second chances narrative because according to her, Gunn was never fired. And start questioning about Disney core values etc, all while saying that it's okay because money and Disney is just luke any other studio
She is a DC fangirl so its hard for her to take unbias stand in Marvel vs DC subjects matters. If Disney didn't fire Gunn he wouldn't be offered the SS2 gig anyway.

edit: I watched the video. She had a couple good points. Gunn is kind of like a Disney spy working for DCEU at this point. But OTOH the Suicide Squat brand is so damaged WB might as well let Gunn's talent and his media attention save SS.
 
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Heroicpiglet

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Dec 22, 2017
699
Anyone watch Grace Randolph video about this? I'm aware for quite some time now that she really revel on stroking the flame war and like to keep controversy going.

She keep bringing up that Marvel never actually fire Gunn after all, dismiss the second chances narrative because according to her, Gunn was never fired. And start questioning about Disney core values etc, all while saying that it's okay because money and Disney is just luke any other studio
She is salty because Disney fired her and did not bother to invite her back.