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Disney brings back James Gunn for Guardians of the Galaxy 3

Oct 25, 2017
4,206
Here is a clip from a weird ass, maybe NSFW, he was in.


It is pretty much just NSFW language, it is descibed as a "porno without the sex".
That's not simply something he was in, it's his creation. It's a series called "PG Porn" that's devoted solely to porn storylines and each episode features actual pornstars. It's actually really funny.
 
Oct 26, 2017
876
Yep. Better story, themes, music, and standout moments. Great series. Great sequel.
Guardians 2 was so good it made me retroactively like Guardians 1. Guardians 2 is probably my favourite marvel movie, it has themes and emotional moments, its not just a cgi fight fest(although it does have them and they are good), it wasn't just about defeating the bad guy, it was about so much more.

I'm glad Gunn is back and that a monolith like Disney can change it's mind.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Guardians 2 felt a lot more exhausting compared to the first but it still had its moments. Glad he came back to this to close off his trilogy tho

Kinda hilarious how much this whole situation was a win for him. Disneys dumb ass put him on timeout and now he got 2 big pay day movies out of it

Also his tweets were trash but only warranting an apology really
 
Oct 30, 2017
707
Man fuck James Gunn, I don't care if he makes movies people love, I don't get how "It was just jokes bro!" has become an acceptable defence for this guy. This guy made an article where he fantasized about fucking a 15 year old X-23, didn't he also make comments about Stark "fucking Batwoman straight"? I don't get the love, he seems vile and disgusting, maybe I'm just missing something.
 
Oct 27, 2017
103
Man fuck James Gunn, I don't care if he makes movies people love, I don't get how "It was just jokes bro!" has become an acceptable defence for this guy. This guy made an article where he fantasized about fucking a 15 year old X-23, didn't he also make comments about Stark "fucking Batwoman straight"? I don't get the love, he seems vile and disgusting, maybe I'm just missing something.
Yeah, that people can change and grow. He doesn't defend any of that stuff.
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,144
Man fuck James Gunn, I don't care if he makes movies people love, I don't get how "It was just jokes bro!" has become an acceptable defence for this guy. This guy made an article where he fantasized about fucking a 15 year old X-23, didn't he also make comments about Stark "fucking Batwoman straight"? I don't get the love, he seems vile and disgusting, maybe I'm just missing something.
To perhaps come off less confrontational (because there's gonna be a lot of those kind of guys "just asking questions" and it's a bit of a sore point): what you're missing is years of Gunn renouncing those comments and that behavior and showing a demonstrable path of change, repentance, and maturity. And this was a path he took on long before Disney hired him in the first place.
 
Man fuck James Gunn, I don't care if he makes movies people love, I don't get how "It was just jokes bro!" has become an acceptable defence for this guy. This guy made an article where he fantasized about fucking a 15 year old X-23, didn't he also make comments about Stark "fucking Batwoman straight"? I don't get the love, he seems vile and disgusting, maybe I'm just missing something.
Please refer to my last post in the thread.
 
Oct 27, 2017
71
Man fuck James Gunn, I don't care if he makes movies people love, I don't get how "It was just jokes bro!" has become an acceptable defence for this guy. This guy made an article where he fantasized about fucking a 15 year old X-23, didn't he also make comments about Stark "fucking Batwoman straight"? I don't get the love, he seems vile and disgusting, maybe I'm just missing something.
It’s wild ain’t it? A lot of people are willing to forgive this hack for pedo jokes though so i guess that’s that.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Longview
People who continue to come in here and attack Gunn over a past he clearly regretted and then spent a decade making up for are pretty transparent. You're not fooling anyone.

We should have threadmarks for this shit.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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i wonder what happens with the actor contracts, my understanding is due to the delay all of them got released? Hopefully all of them get paid and sign up for another one.
No. Everybody’s still under contract for at least one more solo movie, which is GotG3. Marvel Studios actors usually sign up for at least 3 solos and further cameo appearances. Dave Bautista really wanted out of his contract since he had signed up to do a trilogy with James Gunn. But his contract didn’t have a clause to release him if the director got fired.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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There is no evidence to suggest James Gunn is a child rapist. What there is evidence for is James Gunn making crass, gross jokes that leverage paedophilia for shock value. He is not alone in this behaviour nor exclusive, and we know this humour is generally leveraged by people attempting shock and appal their audience. It's a subset of humour. I've done it in the past. Many others have as well, utilising jokes where the punchline cites murder, rape, paedophilia, racism, or some other extremely controversial, counter-culture, politically incorrect trope or topic. I know a baby/fridge joke that I'd tell in my teens that I'm sure this version of Gunn would have found hilarious.

Gunn has since gone on record to discuss this brand of humour (again, let's identify that this style of humour is not exclusive to Gunn, did not originate with Gunn, is not propagated exclusively by Gunn), and how he has grown as a person since. Gunn's brand of humour dating back about a 8 - 10 years and his career trajectory revolved around deliberately gross, controversial jokes and punchlines aimed at unsettling people and stirring the pot. He openly discussed how he sees futility in this style of humour in his later years, the pointlessness of it all, and the obliviousness towards those who may be negatively impacted by it.

Not only recognising his actions and public image, he made several clear, conscious efforts to rectify his behaviour over the years. He has demonstrated himsefl as a person not only acknowledging and admitting of guilt to the humour he subjected people too and the potential ramifications of it, but growth as an individual to the betterment of his own audience.

The website you linked to is run by Mike Cernovich, a hard right nationalist and prominent supporter of Donald Trump and the Republican parties values (multiplied to extremetities). He actively opposes all forms of liberalism, feminism, and racial equality. He believes date rape does not exist (and is a rapist himself), and that there is an ongoing white race genocide that must be combated. He is a vocal mouthpiece for alt-right white nationalist values and ideologies.

Gunn has, for a very long time now, been an open advocate for the exact opposite values. He is pro equality, heavily liberal, and openly anti-Trump. It is not surprise that Cernovich penned a hit piece on Gunn, the latter representing the exact political opposition of ideologies he embodies.

Whether or not you or I or anybody else finds Gunn's decade old jokes funny or shocking is irrelevant to the claim that Gunn is a paedophile, of which Cernovich so brazingly parrots. Emotional outrage is not evidence. Ideologically fuelled hit pieces are not evidence. A fridge/baby joke cited years ago does not make me a paedophile. Doesn't make Gunn one either.
EatChildren being the voice of reason again.
 
Oct 25, 2017
10,603
Lancaster, PA
There is no evidence to suggest James Gunn is a child rapist. What there is evidence for is James Gunn making crass, gross jokes that leverage paedophilia for shock value. He is not alone in this behaviour nor exclusive, and we know this humour is generally leveraged by people attempting shock and appal their audience. It's a subset of humour. I've done it in the past. Many others have as well, utilising jokes where the punchline cites murder, rape, paedophilia, racism, or some other extremely controversial, counter-culture, politically incorrect trope or topic. I know a baby/fridge joke that I'd tell in my teens that I'm sure this version of Gunn would have found hilarious.

Gunn has since gone on record to discuss this brand of humour (again, let's identify that this style of humour is not exclusive to Gunn, did not originate with Gunn, is not propagated exclusively by Gunn), and how he has grown as a person since. Gunn's brand of humour dating back about a 8 - 10 years and his career trajectory revolved around deliberately gross, controversial jokes and punchlines aimed at unsettling people and stirring the pot. He openly discussed how he sees futility in this style of humour in his later years, the pointlessness of it all, and the obliviousness towards those who may be negatively impacted by it.

Not only recognising his actions and public image, he made several clear, conscious efforts to rectify his behaviour over the years. He has demonstrated himsefl as a person not only acknowledging and admitting of guilt to the humour he subjected people too and the potential ramifications of it, but growth as an individual to the betterment of his own audience.

The website you linked to is run by Mike Cernovich, a hard right nationalist and prominent supporter of Donald Trump and the Republican parties values (multiplied to extremetities). He actively opposes all forms of liberalism, feminism, and racial equality. He believes date rape does not exist (and is a rapist himself), and that there is an ongoing white race genocide that must be combated. He is a vocal mouthpiece for alt-right white nationalist values and ideologies.

Gunn has, for a very long time now, been an open advocate for the exact opposite values. He is pro equality, heavily liberal, and openly anti-Trump. It is not surprise that Cernovich penned a hit piece on Gunn, the latter representing the exact political opposition of ideologies he embodies.

Whether or not you or I or anybody else finds Gunn's decade old jokes funny or shocking is irrelevant to the claim that Gunn is a paedophile, of which Cernovich so brazingly parrots. Emotional outrage is not evidence. Ideologically fuelled hit pieces are not evidence. A fridge/baby joke cited years ago does not make me a paedophile. Doesn't make Gunn one either.
Fucking ethered, Jesus Christ lol
 
Nov 9, 2018
69
I'm of two minds on this.

First off I NEVER cared that he was fired for those tweets. One of the first things I was told in College was to take care of your online image. Make FB shit private, don't post stupid shit with your name attached to it ... cause it can cost you job opportunities AND get you fired from ones you already have years in the future. These are true things, it happens all the time with normal people. My Supervisor was canned over this last year. So I don't really see why people think famous people should be held above this.

Plus there's the fact that he's a glory hog middle aged guy trying to make the most of his new found success even at the cost of stepping on younger, break out talent. Like, he wrote and directed GoTG 2 himself ... so in contrast to GoTG it seems clear to me why 1 was so much better than 2. I'm far more inclined to believe Nicole Perlman's accounts on what she gave to the work than Gunn's "I basically rewrote it from the ground up" BS. GoTG was grade A great and GoTG 2 ... suffers greatly from poor story structure and comes across as overly comical IMO (IIRC ... I forgot so much of that film). I find it far less memorable and was hoping to not have these problems arise in GoTG3 with a different team.

But at the end of the day Perlman seems to have been recognized for her skills by the industry seeing how she went on to write for CM and Detective Pikachu and Gunn IS a great director so the characters will be fun at least.

So over all it's what ever to me. Not a huge Gunn fan but happy for those who wanted this. I also see this as a stand against letting Right Wing trolls control culture sooo yay.
 
Oct 26, 2017
2,954
This issue sort of illuminates that the claims made that people exist who don't believe in folks becoming better people, and insist on judging folks by their worst regardless of atonement are real.

Sort of a "Just throw the whole person away" if people aren't flawless from jump. I find that really lame considering Im sure if we searched any of these folks personal histories we would find shit in their past they wouldnt like to be judged by. If your whole thing is "Fuck this person forever for being wrong once upon a time regardless of context" then that's pretty shitty of you. Just saying.
 
Man fuck James Gunn, I don't care if he makes movies people love, I don't get how "It was just jokes bro!" has become an acceptable defence for this guy. This guy made an article where he fantasized about fucking a 15 year old X-23, didn't he also make comments about Stark "fucking Batwoman straight"? I don't get the love, he seems vile and disgusting, maybe I'm just missing something.
Yes, you're missing something.
 
Oct 26, 2017
876
I'm of two minds on this.

First off I NEVER cared that he was fired for those tweets. One of the first things I was told in College was to take care of your online image. Make FB shit private, don't post stupid shit with your name attached to it ... cause it can cost you job opportunities AND get you fired from ones you already have years in the future. These are true things, it happens all the time with normal people. My Supervisor was canned over this last year. So I don't really see why people think famous people should be held above this.

Plus there's the fact that he's a glory hog middle aged guy trying to make the most of his new found success even at the cost of stepping on younger, break out talent. Like, he wrote and directed GoTG 2 himself ... so in contrast to GoTG it seems clear to me why 1 was so much better than 2. I'm far more inclined to believe Nicole Perlman's accounts on what she gave to the work than Gunn's "I basically rewrote it from the ground up" BS. GoTG was grade A great and GoTG 2 ... suffers greatly from poor story structure and comes across as overly comical IMO (IIRC ... I forgot so much of that film). I find it far less memorable and was hoping to not have these problems arise in GoTG3 with a different team.

But at the end of the day Perlman seems to have been recognized for her skills by the industry seeing how she went on to write for CM and Detective Pikachu and Gunn IS a great director so the characters will be fun at least.

So over all it's what ever to me. Not a huge Gunn fan but happy for those who wanted this. I also see this as a stand against letting Right Wing trolls control culture sooo yay.
Its so weird how people can have such different opinions, like it seems clear to me how much better GOT2 is to 1 for all the reasons you mention. I thought the GOTG 1 was way more comical(but it wasn't that funny) and had a poor story structure and lacked character development and had very little emotional impact, compared to GOT2. I'm not saying your wrong, its just weird.