You're not talking about the skeleton found in the smokestack to drag out the clone saga for another few months?
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they definitely told Scar Jo to stay home and keep quiet until this ends
I'm a little confused as to why Sony is getting the heat for this when by all measures the fault seems to be more on Disney's side?
If this completely falls through any chance Marvel/Disney retaliates and does something with Insomniac's Spiderman series?
I suppose if this doesn't get resolved, in the pre-credits sequence of some future MCU movie, we'll see an obscured Spider-Man get dropped down a smokestack to his death.
(10 points to anybody who gets the reference.)
Zendaya did follow Sony and Spider-Man accounts, now she doesn't follow neither.
Disney may be the aggressor here but from my point of view I'm not really seeing any bad guys. Just negotiation struggles with reasonable hesitation on both sides. With both sides standing very firm. I understand both arguments.
I didn't know about that, but it's an amusing coincidence.
I was referring to how EON had James Bond kill off Blofeld (who was only seen from behind) in an opening sequence, once they lost the fight over rights to him.
If this completely falls through any chance Marvel/Disney retaliates and does something with Insomniac's Spiderman series?
Am I not a Spider-man fan for not enjoying Marvel Studios take on the character? Not that I think Sony will do much better now, especially if they focus on the Venoverse stuff, but at least they gave me interpretations I enjoyed before.Creatively, I don't see how any Spider-Man fan prefers Sony has full control over the franchise rather than Marvel Studios these days.
Ok, it's great that you watch MCU films because you like them, everyone is different. Some people are more susceptible to peer pressure or 'social obligations' as you put it than others. But it's not great that disney is using you as a fan to push their will on other studios.Owning an iPhone does not make you part of high society any more than watching a Marvel movie does lol. Good lord. Projecting much?
People are going to see Marvel movies because they're generally good, fun to watch, and build hype for the next one. Maybe you suffer through watching these movies and have therefore come to the conclusion that the only reason anyone would ever want to see these things is out of forced social obligations, but that says more about you than anyone else.
Why would you think I would say something else.
I'm sure that extra money will be going to their hard working underpaid workers and not the executive team.Disney trying to get more money out of this deal because they just delivered the highest grossing movie in Sony history.
Tom taking a stand, good to see.
If this completely falls through any chance Marvel/Disney retaliates and does something with Insomniac's Spiderman series?
ScarJo already campaigning to play the live action Miles Morales in the Sony reboot.
It would be really interesting if Disney came out of this developing a Disney+ live series with Holland and all the same actors and very publicly says "this is the continuation of MCU Spider-Man, the films might have Tom and all that but they are officially non-canon side stories".
I know you joke but that's pretty much how it is. It's like owning an iPhone in order to be considered a part of high society. Groups of people get together and go see the latest MCU film because it's in style and everyone is talking about it, makes one feel like a part of the group. Not saying that it's wrong but we shouldn't deny what is going on.
Good, we need Spiderman to be a man again
I didn't know about that, but it's an amusing coincidence.
I was referring to how EON had James Bond kill off Blofeld (who was only seen from behind) in an opening sequence, once they lost the fight over rights to him.
If this completely falls through any chance Marvel/Disney retaliates and does something with Insomniac's Spiderman series?
The rumored demands from Disney were kind of rediculous
I know you joke but that's pretty much how it is. It's like owning an iPhone in order to be considered a part of high society. Groups of people get together and go see the latest MCU film because it's in style and everyone is talking about it, makes one feel like a part of the group. Not saying that it's wrong but we shouldn't deny what is going on.
I'm sure that extra money will be going to their hard working underpaid workers and not the executive team.
Ok, it's great that you watch MCU films because you like them, everyone is different. Some people are more susceptible to peer pressure or 'social obligations' as you put it than others. But it's not great that disney is using you as a fan to push their will on other studios.
Sony might not have a great track record with films according to some people but they should be given a chance to create their own cinematic universe with the spider-man property because competition is always good.
Why would you think I would say something else.
If Raimi was still there sure maybe, but I used "these days" for a reason. You yourself said you don't think Sony will do much better now.Am I not a Spider-man fan for not enjoying Marvel Studios take on the character? Not that I think Sony will do much better now, especially if they focus on the Venoverse stuff, but at least they gave me interpretations I enjoyed before.
People enjoy being with other people and that's fine. I'm not arguing against that or anything really, the MCU is well liked by a lot of people and I accept it. I just wish people would understand how it came to that, how marketing and peer pressure played a role. It plays a role for a lot of things which is why I compared it to owning an iPhone.
But in this case Disney is using their fans, which is wrong, in order to accomplish a beneficial deal for themselves.
Disney wanting more money and/or creative control doesn't make them the ones at fault. The original deal is very clearly slanted towards the Sony side. Marvel Studios delivered the biggest film in Sony history and got a measly 5%. No matter how you slice it, that's a shit deal.
Yeah, but Sony owns the movie rights to Spider-Man. They can choose however much they want to share with Disney/Marvel.Disney wanting more money and/or creative control doesn't make them the ones at fault. The original deal is very clearly slanted towards the Sony side. Marvel Studios delivered the biggest film in Sony history and got a measly 5%. No matter how you slice it, that's a shit deal.
Ok, it's great that you watch MCU films because you like them, everyone is different. Some people are more susceptible to peer pressure or 'social obligations' as you put it than others. But it's not great that disney is using you as a fan to push their will on other studios.
Sony might not have a great track record with films according to some people but they should be given a chance to create their own cinematic universe with the spider-man property because competition is always good.
Does Disney own the animated Spider-Man TV rights or all Spider-Man TV rights? Because a live-action Disney+ Spider-Man street-level TV series would actually probably be better than the movies, but the character would never be able to appear in the movies anyway because Sony has those rights.