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I would say that co-financing is assuming half of the risk.
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Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’
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Are you sure you got that right? Is there a link available?
I would say that co-financing is assuming half of the risk.
And that's the cold hard reality regardless of personal affinity or animus towards Disney.
They are putting up billion-dollar hit after hit, they just released the highest-grossing film of all time and they haven't even started the Star Wars blitz, with TROS looking to make between 1.3 – 1.5 billion easily.
Disney shits Sony profits at this point.
There's wanting more money and then there's a 50% cut. They were not negotiating in good faith with that kind of offer.
Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’
Disney-Sony Standoff Spins Web Of Doubt Over Kevin Feige's 'Spider-Man' Future
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What if Disney...buys Marvel?
Disney has become a fat swollen blog sucking up companies as it grows fat with power, maybe it can consume Sony and then ingest the rights required.
Disney has become a fat swollen blog sucking up companies as it grows fat with power, maybe it can consume Sony and then ingest the rights required.
Did they co-finance? I thought that was all (or mostly) Sony.
Of course. No one is disputing their right to do so, just the wisdom of it.
I'm sure Disney would love to buy the film rights back from Sony but they'd never sell.
Sony Pictures is going to have to fold for that to happen.
MCU Spider-Man is hands down the best rendition of Spider-Man we've had, he deserves to be in his real home. Keep Spider-Man in Marvel.
Nothing is impossible when it comes to Disney buying things.
Disney clearly had a hand in rejuvenating the character for the big screen. From SM3 to ASM2 Sony has mishandled the property. While you can point to SM3 making more than Homecoming, you also have to realize SM3 cost way more than Homecoming to make. Homecoming probably made a larger profit. And we know how well the ASM movies did in profit....
Disney has to give away their toys whenever a Spidey film needs to be made. They give away their internal resources to a project they barely get any returns on when they could have used said resources on their own projects for maximum returns. Add in the fact Sony wants a Spidey movie every 2 years and the MCU delving into TV shows and having to integrate the X-Men and you can see why Disney wanted a larger piece of the pie. A Spidey films results in their own schedule having to be shifted and they need to see a reason why that happens especially because they have no team up films planned.
Disney has to give away their toys whenever a Spidey film needs to be made. They give away their internal resources to a project they barely get any returns on when they could have used said resources on their own projects for maximum returns. Add in the fact Sony wants a Spidey movie every 2 years and the MCU delving into TV shows and having to integrate the X-Men and you can see why Disney wanted a larger piece of the pie. A Spidey films results in their own schedule having to be shifted and they need to see a reason why that happens especially because they have no team up films planned.
That would be nice, if they insist on making that movie it would be nice to cast their gun wielding adventurer as somebody who doesn't look like a minor lol
No such cut has been confirmed though. I agree that 50% is a tad too high.
It's obviously not 100% confirmedDisney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’
Disney-Sony Standoff Spins Web Of Doubt Over Kevin Feige's 'Spider-Man' Future
Thanks, I already read that. I thought there was confirmation from a trusted source.
They proposed to co-finance the next Spider-man films.
Of course they will. He is the face of the franchise right now and there is absolutely zero reason to not keep him around. They have Holland and the director of his two movies on board already for the next one.
They also still have the rights to everything that happened in Homecoming and FFH -- those are their movies. They can just keep the world exactly as is or just make a change or two. People are making it seem far more difficult than it needs to be. He just needs to battle new villains and hang out with his friends -- this is what Spider-Man is about. The rest is window dressing.
But honestly, this is all moot -- they will come to a compromise that is nowhere near Disney's offer because it wasn't done in good faith.
Hey aren't you the guy who made a massive thread keeping tabs on people who said Ant-Man looked bad and tried to mock them for it
Sony cast Tom Holland when Disney didn't want him. Please explain how this is their fault when we've already explained that its Disney's?
If Disney is willing to assume 50% of the financing then they deserve an equal share of the profits given that Sony benefits from setting their films in the MCU.
What Sony should do is work out a deal that gets their other Marvel IP's into the MCU with Feige and company helping produce and oversee production.
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This would be great, get Holland the fuck away from Uncharted, that was an atrocious casting.
Here's the thing. I'm not surprised this happened....
With as big a property as Spider-Man and with ownership split between two companies (Disney and Sony)
It was only a matter of time before one of them wanted more of the profits.
With as big a property as Spider-Man and with ownership split between two companies (Disney and Sony)
It was only a matter of time before one of them wanted more of the profits.
Yea some people should learn how to write assumptions. Discussing on a forum doesn't automatically mean everything is an opinion or assumption.
You're nuts if you think Disney didn't want Tom Holland, specially when he did all of his casting tryouts with both RDJ and Chris Evans.
We were discussing the last two. They were at no risk on those.
I'm sure lots of companies would like to "co finance" some upcoming movies. I'd love to get in on some myself!
These movies consistently have A-rating cinemascores. Audiences like them. They would not keep turning out -- in increasingly higher numbers -- to see them if they didn't like what they were seeing. You clearly are someone who doesn't like them and get dragged into them by friends or family. If that's the case, I'm sorry for the two-hour pain rituals you're forced to undergo at the movie theater every six or so months. But you're the outlier here. Most people are not being forced against their will to watch Marvel movies or pretend to like them. They genuinely want to watch them and genuinely like them.
Putting aside the two previous Spider-Man movie series Sony has already produced (three if we want to count Spider-Verse), I want to point out this whole "competition is good" talking point is such nonsense. Disney co-producing, or not, Spider-Man movies is not some market consolidating monopoly. Superhero movies are a genre, they aren't the means of producing and distributing cinema itself.
And then Tom Holland unfollows Sony on instagram.
top 10 anime betrayals.
The Russo's, Pascal, and Feige were all involved in the casting of Tom.
True but Sony has to be willing to relinquish those rights and currently, they want to continue making comic book films. Even without the MCU Spider-Man can generate hundreds of millions of dollars in potential revenue (or more) and Sony knows that even if they aren't an official part of he MCU they can piggyback off it indirectly and reap the benefits.
Personally, I don't think Sony would sell the rights back unless they were in such dire financial straights that they had no other choice.
After End Game, I feel like the MCU Spiderman character is meant to fill in the void left. Like going forward, he will develop into the main character of the MCU much like Iron Man was.
...yeah, ah well. :/
If you are a celebrity and don't own an iPhone then other celebrities shun you. Kinda like not being an MCU fan on this forum.
I didn't say that's its wrong, every company does it. They rely on marketing and word of mouth to get people to consume a product. The problem is once fans stop realizing that they are being taken advantage of.
They've already established the Sony Marvel Universe.
I definitely agree with you 100% and that is why Sony has all of the leverage in this negotiation.
Lol, not the best guy to be calling out 'fanboys'
A mad lack of self awareness in a lot of ppl in this thread. From tweets to shit like this. Spiderman has ppl going nuts
Ah sorry, I thought we were talking about the next ones. Yeah they didn't finance those, although I would argue that Marvel Studios producing a movie of another studio's IP for miniscule profit instead of working on a project fully owned by Marvel does have a cost. Marvel Studios potentially lost hundreds of millions of dollars by working on Sony IP instead of a new MCU film.
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