Finishing Touch is too good now. And that little speed bump from his crystal rework is nice. I have one ATK 108 but will need to work on getting some better arts for him.
Now when is EX+? XD
It's all those Cloud Remake avatars sending good luck out there.
Well you guys were right. I beat Heretic chasm pitch which I was struggling with so hard by simply mlbing cloud. He's so good... wow! I have him up as support for the time being. Hope he's useful!
Luck streak continues.
Just took 4 tickets.... I dont even like Lenna as a character much but I tried my luck since you guys said she's great the other week.
Naar the summer chasm 1 pitch heretic was difficult for me because I didn't have Golbez and relied on a friend golbez. I also Had Y'shtola's ex a long time ago thankfully and while she's great now... her damage still wasn't enough with Beatrix. I had Quistis restricted from one of the other quests for the dark chasm and that's why Cloud really helped me out there. I was doing 171k off a finishing touch launch under ifrit summon. Cloud made it cake lol. As for the heretic 2 I haven't tried yet but i'm assuming it will be very easy with cloud mlb ex. If you're worried about difficulty just wait until cosmos comes in a month. That will be insanely difficult and then chaos in the future which is the real endgame content.
Heya. Still behind. But hoping to catch up this weekend.
I already had a max Cloud with EX. Also already gave Firion EX.
So with Cloud, which other 2 right now would go best with him you guys think as a general group.
Quistis, Cait Sith, Y'shtola — all EX and all MLB.
Thanks any opinions shared! I hope to get all events, lost chapters, story, artifacts, and summon boards caught up this weekend.
Today I learned it's better to stay stoic on other banners and save up 75k gems if you REALLY want someone's EX in advance for the pity option. I saved up like 35k gems and 150ish tickets for Cloud's EX (missed it the first time) and ended up with... all of Firion's gear.
Not bad by any means but still a little disappointed since I (really) wanted Cloud's stuff.
Does anyone else have the "don't pull with gems unless you have 75k" mentality? Is it even possible without falling for a hype banner somewhere down the line while saving up?
Sometimes you REALLY need a particular character to balance out your roster, even if you aren't as invested in them compared to your favourites, and you don't expect it'd take as much as you needed to spend. It took both me and a ton of other people far too much to get Lenna, but it felt neccessary because of how useful her kit is both now and continues to be later.
I myself got a little caught up on Golbez and ended up making a multipull on him, even though I have an explicit mission statement to save up for two characters in a row later, specifically because he was a character I really like.
You should pull who you want, because it's your favorite characters that make it worth playing, just be certain if there is anyone you are gunning for down the line and try to save up for them. That way, you won't feel bad if you have to spend a bunch to get them, since that was the plan in the first place!
And be careful of the hype, you will always eventually be able to get a nice character that's popular now later, especially of their popularity is predicated on their usefulness down the line. I spent like 30 tickets in Rosa, but backed off, because I knew that I had a few characters this month I wanted more then Rosa, and that I'll eventually get another shot at her by the time she becomes godlike.
Use the Forcasts that use the JP schedule as a baseline for expectations of future banners and characters if you wanna plan ahead. That way, you aren't stuck waiting for nothing, or spending in the moment and getting nothing. Also, try to relent from using too many tickets if a character you want, that isn't a major priority shows up. I've gotten plenty of EX weapons from just using tickets, but it's always likely until it isn't, and you should be mentally prepared for you to lose all your resources chasing a character you want.
Today I learned it's better to stay stoic on other banners and save up 75k gems if you REALLY want someone's EX in advance for the pity option. I saved up like 35k gems and 150ish tickets for Cloud's EX (missed it the first time) and ended up with... all of Firion's gear.
Not bad by any means but still a little disappointed since I (really) wanted Cloud's stuff.
Does anyone else have the "don't pull with gems unless you have 75k" mentality? Is it even possible without falling for a hype banner somewhere down the line while saving up?
So out of Cloud, Y'sh, Cait Sith, and Quistis -- Drop Cait Sith, any other opinions or co-signs?
I'll probably go with that then. Try to use event characters for the associated event, but for other stuff, that'll be my main 3. I'll miss Cait'ster.
My one major dislike in the game is for event characters banners. Let me give you a real example of what I mean.
Sephiroth came out and I pulled for him and got his weapons last year and full MLB. I also have the other characters on his banner MLB.
Now he comes back in his lc and I would like his ex, but I can't be expected to pull for only 1 weapon, a weapon that has a 1% chance of appearing!
And me pulling to get power stones doesn't work since I currently have 134 stones.
It's made me pull less on new character banners and wait till they come back as LC, especially since future LCs will have double EX banners and I don't want to find myself in a situation similar to my Sephiroth situation again
So out of Cloud, Y'sh, Cait Sith, and Quistis -- Drop Cait Sith, any other opinions or co-signs?
Thanks any opinions shared! I hope to get .... summon boards caught up this weekend.
Does anyone else have the "don't pull with gems unless you have 75k" mentality? Is it even possible without falling for a hype banner somewhere down the line while saving up?
That's the part that's sort of weird about ex+. I'm happy long term players will get a chance to get a lot more ex weapons, but pulling feels less important with 15 and 35 becoming irrelevant. I really expected them to add another tier for gacha by now. Bloom stone upgrades or something. I wonder what they're planning.
What? Irrelevant? Both 15 and 35 cp are still very important to a characters kit. Look at lenna. Without her 35 she is useless
My main issue is being asked to pull a very strong weapon that has a low chance of appearing in banners full of weapons I already have
Adding 1 new weapon to the banner after 9 months is stupid. By that time most people will have gotten weapons for others on the banner.
They need to add more than 1 weapon to the banner, especially if you wait 9 months
For longer term players, they're becoming irrelevant because people are starting to get them all. Like, I'm at the point where I only need like 15-20 35 cp weapons, and even then they're kind of pointless because there's no reason to mlb most characters unless they have their ex weapon. There's just not a lot of push in the gacha to get new stuff outside of ex's, and a year from now, most people still playing will have a ton of them. Don't take this as a complaint, I'm happy for power creep that doesn't involve spending a ton of money, but I think it's kind of weird that ex+ isn't somehow tied to gacha mechanics.
My one major dislike in the game is for event characters banners. Let me give you a real example of what I mean.
Sephiroth came out and I pulled for him and got his weapons last year and full MLB. I also have the other characters on his banner MLB.
Now he comes back in his lc and I would like his ex, but I can't be expected to pull for only 1 weapon, a weapon that has a 1% chance of appearing!
And me pulling to get power stones doesn't work since I currently have 134 stones.
It's made me pull less on new character banners and wait till they come back as LC, especially since future LCs will have double EX banners and I don't want to find myself in a situation similar to my Sephiroth situation again
Yeah, I had to do a double take lol. Someone said in discord they saw that score with a Lenna and 2 EX Cloud's too.You did see that too? I thought someone was hacking the game... LOL
Cloud is a beast!!!
Three EX Cloud's in co-op......999,999
My son is too good, I'm so proud. *sniff*
I'm in this boat too with Seph. I knew at the time that he would get power crept soon after but went for it anyway. Regret that now; he might be the first favorite that I have to pass on since his EX is the only incentive on his banner.
Plus side is that I'll probably use tickets and my palty gem stash on Rinoa instead where I'm more likely to get new stuff. I've really enjoyed using both Selphie and Quistis in the past so hoping the last VIII lady is as fun as it seems she'll be. And, I kind of want her extra costume cause killing bad guys in a cocktail dress is badass. XD
Seph was power crept pretty fast on his initial release, which was suspected. I regret pulling for him then only in the sense that I should have waited for his LC to roll around and go for MLBing his weapons then.Your first paragraph doesn't make sense after reading your second paragraph.
You regret pulling on sephiroth event, but want to pull for Rinoa? If you pull for Rinoa now then when her lc returns there is still only 1 new weapon which is Irvine ex.
We still go back to the same problem of having to pull again for only 1 new weapon that is rare.
You are probably looking at it from "what is my favorite character" but this issue applies to every single character event.
Regardless of who gets released now, when thier lc returns there is only 1 new weapon and its not fair to pull for that weapon when you have everything else on that banner MLB
Seph was power crept pretty fast on his initial release, which was suspected. I regret pulling for him then only in the sense that I should have waited for his LC to roll around and go for MLBing his weapons then.
With Rinoa, it's my understanding her initial release is her moment, more so than down the line when she returns with her LC or EX+, and that she'll be relevant for some time. It makes more sense to pull for her now. I don't imagine I'll ever bother with Irvine's EX unless there's something crucial about it so her LC banner will be a skip anyway.
And just to add, I'm not aiming for getting every weapon, there are plenty I don't care about. I'm mostly just trying to grab what is most relevant when, with a few favorites thrown in.
That's on how you play and when you choose to pull though. That's on you basically.My point isn't about sephiroth or rinoa or anyone else though. The general fact is that character events when they come back as an lc have very little value in thier banners for long time players
That's on how you play and when you choose to pull though. That's on you basically.
I'm a day 1 player and I never bothered to pull for Quistis when her initial event was here; she became meta down the line and got her EX with her LC. I was also able to max out Serah on her LC banner too, so there was a lot of value there for me personally. *shrugs*
Now I'm confused. You said LC banners don't have value for long time players, but now it has great value?I didn't pull for quistis either when she first came out as well.
My point is that the lc banner is not only great value, but far better weapons available to pull on
Now I'm confused. You said LC banners don't have value for long time players, but now it has great value?
I mean, this is a gacha game. And it's honestly pretty generous. Just plan your pulls. Don't know what else to say.
I sort of get what you are saying, but unless you are pulling on every single initial character event banner, this shouldn't apply to every LC. They have to balance banners and events for both new and veteran players. Some people still need 15 and 35s. And not every veteran plays or cares about EX level too. Some people just want to hit stuff with swords, my best friend for example who I have to carry through co-ops....but I digress.No it's great value if you didn't pull on it initially. Otherwise you will most likely pull on an lc banner with characters that you have all thier weapons MLB and then obviously it's much much less value
I sort of get what you are saying, but unless you are pulling on every single initial character event banner, this shouldn't apply to every LC. They have to balance banners and events for both new and veteran players. Some people still need 15 and 35s. And not every veteran plays or cares about EX level too. Some people just want to hit stuff with swords, my best friend for example who I have to carry through co-ops....but I digress.
Well the next few character banners are amazing with rinoa and vayne for example, but thier lc also comes with a 2nd EX
I rather use 75k gems and possibly get 2 ex rather than having to spend 150k
I definitely get what you're saying, but it's an age-old argument with most gacha games out there- the longer you wait, the better the value is for your gems. A lot of Day 1 Global players held onto their gems early on, waiting for 35CPs to be included on banners... only for JP to come out with banners including EXs. Then EXs were released in Global, only for JP banners to have double-EX banners. Once we get there, JP will probably have banners featuring EX2 (or whatever) weapons, which also happen to include all the previous tiers of weapons on them to dilute the pool. It's a never-ending cycle, and those of us in it for the long haul just have to try and be thoughtful about which banners we pull on, and which we pass on.
Unless you're a robot like Kouriozan, who's somehow able to hoard a premium currency stash of 5-6 standard players combined.
Realistically, I think a lot of us take the approach Calliope mentioned. Plan our pulls as thoughtfully as we can, while still having fun by sometimes letting loose on banners purely on emotion.
I think you all misunderstood me. I am specifically complaining about character/lc banners. I have no issues with story, summon, awakening banners or even the fact that we had 15cp weapons and then they added 35cp weapons, and then they added ex weapons.
My issue again is with lc banners, as it's the only banner that repeats exactly the same + 1 new ex and its just not worth it for a long time player to pull on it on its initial release, but rather pull on it when it comes back as an lc banner.
For new players it doesn't matter
I totally get you, it kinda does suck when new mechanics are always right round the corner, and new reasons to pull for characters you already have does make pulling before the Lost Chapter suck.
That's partially why I have no game plan after August other then "Save up a pity pool for Emperor and Ultimecia, and maybe Rosa?" Since after Zack and Vayne I can't be bothered too much by how many characters I may miss before the EX+ Era, especially considering how many are totally EXless. Built not to need it, but still EXless.
But the most important thing about these games, and life in general, is that you can't let your mistakes own you. You learn from them, transform them into experiences, and move on.
I pulled on Vaan and exhausted my story gems back in Beatrix times just to get to 200 pity coins because I thought, "it'd be a waste if I didn't at least get there." Then I got his EX in a ticket pull. I've clawed my way back from that tragedy, and I had a useless character to show for it then, and a very useful Layle for a while.
At the very least, the reworks these character get make them pretty great without EX's, but it does suck a little that more and more of them are becoming dependent on them. It's a natural part of how this game's content requires useful EX Characters to meaningfully complete, but it's still unfortunate.
I will be very happy when 2 EX banners become the norm, because at the very least it'll be prudent to pull to be able to max one useful character if you already have the other.
Edit: I have an important question, since you already pulled for him back in his event. One of my major motivations to pull for Sephiroth with Tickets isn't even his EX, or his use as a powerful character. It's the fact that Masamune Blade is a funny 15CP to put on other greatsword users.
Do you do this, and is it funny? I find that Gun users get a lot of goofy cross-weaponry, and Yuffie's Shuriken looks awesome on tons of throwing characters.
GET READY FOR THE QUEEN TO BE ANNOUNCED.
I'm also hoping for a Seifer EX announcement but that won't happen so I won't set myself up for disappointment.
Your hype about Rinoa is a constant treat, and I hope I can bust out a fraction of the excitement when my boy Zack gets his due!
Wednesday night*Maintenance this Wednesday so Rinoa is pretty much confirmed for Thursday now.