Eh, plenty of level-headed replies in here. It's only an issue when people aren't willing to open their minds to a varying degree of viewpoints.
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DMC 5: New king of graphics?
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Eh, plenty of level-headed replies in here. It's only an issue when people aren't willing to open their minds to a varying degree of viewpoints.
No, not really it isn't. It's a good looking game for sure. Personally speaking I find The Order 1886 is still the best looking game out there.
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God of War still beats it:
That's an amusing thing to say considering every DMCV picture you quoted decimates the one of Kratos.
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It doesn't matter if the assets are the same. That's not the bottleneck in the graphics pipeline. It's the framebuffer (i.e. where most of the VFX are spent in screenspace); which is dependent on the resolution. Every single screenspace pixel shader will be evaluated at the lower resolution thus making the game look far worse than it should. That's the whole reason why multiplats are rendered at lower than ideal (@4k) resolution with upscaling.
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It looks good but it has very static environments and the lighting looks off at times. It's not anywhere near as close graphically to games like Horizon, GOW and RDR2...all of which have much more complicated level design (in GoW's case) and so much more going on physics and AI wise. DMCV is very flashy though.
It looks great, but RDR2 is beyond great. The details in that game is something you won't see anytime soon.
Have you tried the color space option? This and RE2 I set to sRGB as the .rec option was too dark.
I think the RE engine have one flaw. (At least I think it is due to engine not design choice) it does not do well with cutscenes where scenes goes from one envieroment to another. In DMCV there is a moment where things hapening from diffrent perspective in quick session, I think its at the end of mission 12. Usually it one scene but all those scenes are seperate from each other and load in between.
I think thats Engine because remembering RE2 there was not many scenes where it shows characters in diffrent space in one cut. But also can be director choice.
Sorry if it does not make sense but Im talking about this
Starts at 4.05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-96T4q6zzM
I saw those scenes to load not too long but still a bit long in between
I think thats Engine because remembering RE2 there was not many scenes where it shows characters in diffrent space in one cut. But also can be director choice.
Sorry if it does not make sense but Im talking about this
Starts at 4.05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-96T4q6zzM
I saw those scenes to load not too long but still a bit long in between
It's definitely up there, but DMC5 hasn't especially blown me away vs. other games out there. I would also push back against the idea Metro Exodus has inferior textures or art direction to DMC5. I feel Metro excels far more in most things related to its environment than DMC5 does, but when it comes to characters/enemies DMC5 excels vs. most other games.
DMC5 just has kinda basic urban environments layered on with demon decay, and some of that stuff is pretty blurry with low texture resolution. Metro: Exodus on the other hand I can get fine micro-detail like welding on a run of the mill not important stair railing because the texture resolution is high on so many assets, and the art design adds so much atmosphere to locations.
DMC5 is a character action game, and the most clear technical effort has gone into characters, because that is who you're fighting as, and what you're fighting against.
DMC5 just has kinda basic urban environments layered on with demon decay, and some of that stuff is pretty blurry with low texture resolution. Metro: Exodus on the other hand I can get fine micro-detail like welding on a run of the mill not important stair railing because the texture resolution is high on so many assets, and the art design adds so much atmosphere to locations.
DMC5 is a character action game, and the most clear technical effort has gone into characters, because that is who you're fighting as, and what you're fighting against.
I mean... I'm not going out of my way to find terrible looking scenery. The game just keeps showing it to me.
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From what I understand making background bland is part of game design, if it have been detailed it might have been difficult to orient in the chaos that combat creates especially hard to make it run consistanly with 60 fps.I mean... I'm not going out of my way to find terrible looking scenery. The game just keeps showing it to me.
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Very much my view the more I play. Character models, in the cutscenes, are fantastic, but outside of that, while not a bad looking game, it isn't anything special (certainly not enough to warrant this thread).
I get it, though. They wanted to push that 60fps on console, and as result, it took a hit in certain areas of the visuals.
Honestly how I have felt since the beginning of this gen. Graphics and visual fidelity right now are absurd; all I can do is sit back and enjoy, and it's only getting better.
Both Resident Evil 2 and DMC 5 look SO fucking good. The animations and character models in both games are beyond impressive. Very excited to see what magic this engine pulls off in the coming years, especially on next-gen hardware.
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Peep these essentially perfect animation transitions. For those unfamiliar, these aren't dial-a-combos/animation strings like in Ninja Gaiden or Bayonetta, these are entirely unique animations/attacks, seamlessly blending with one another. These are super slowed down. In practice you basically never notice this since the game is so fast.
Peep these essentially perfect animation transitions. For those unfamiliar, these aren't dial-a-combos/animation strings like in Ninja Gaiden or Bayonetta, these are entirely unique animations/attacks, seamlessly blending with one another. These are super slowed down. In practice you basically never notice this since the game is so fast.
You can really tell that better animation blending was a huge focus. Even animations that are reused/remade from DMC4 have better blends back into the idle poses/with other attacks. It's a dream come true.Crossing Eden
Peep these essentially perfect animation transitions. For those unfamiliar, these aren't dial-a-combos/animation strings like in Ninja Gaiden or Bayonetta, these are entirely unique animations/attacks, seamlessly blending with one another. These are super slowed down. In practice you basically never notice this since the game is so fast.
The character models are indeed phenomenal. So is the light and material. Obviously, the environments are not up to that standard.
But you know, considering that limitations on resources do exist, I don't mind this balance. That is, where the characters are a noticeably higher grade than the environment. Getting the environments up to that grade would likely be a gargantuan task. Some huge games take it on, but in an age of spiraling budgets I think dmc5 holds its own.
But you know, considering that limitations on resources do exist, I don't mind this balance. That is, where the characters are a noticeably higher grade than the environment. Getting the environments up to that grade would likely be a gargantuan task. Some huge games take it on, but in an age of spiraling budgets I think dmc5 holds its own.
The graphics in this game are unfuckingbelievable, how the hell it's 60fps on PS4 plPro is beyond me, what sorcery is this.
FOr me what sets DMC apart is that when characters laugh and show laughing animations it actually looks very natural. Strangely this laughing emotion always falls flat and looks really off in other games. I think capcom has developed an incredible technoligy thad has put them in the lead
God of War still beats it:
No, not really, not even close.
I played GOW on Pro by the way, you can't compare it to DMC5 on PC. Look at this shit, this is fucking next gen.
If I told you this is Nathan Drake from Uncharted 5 you'll be screaming ''Holy shit this looks way better than GOW!!!''
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What the...When the lighting hits just right
DMCV looks ridiculous
This looks next-gen.
Can run the game at 120 fps in 1080p with my gtx980ti, i can't go that high with most recent games, they really nailed the optimisation!
It's the kind of game that doesn't really hold up to scrutiny when you bust out a magnifying glass and look at individuals elements in isolation. The AO, the complete lack of reflections in any water/puddles, a decent amount of blaaagh textures and geometry. Rendering-wise, it's probably not the most impressive looking game ever.
But taken as a whole, it's unbelievably gorgeous in a way few other games can match. The exquisite animations, the phenomenal performance, the lighting in a lot of the levels, the character models(dante's jacket in-game looks WHEW BUDDY) and the way everyone's loose clothing/hair sways, etc.
The particle effects in particular are astounding. Just fuuuuuuuckin' ludicrous, man.
In-motion, this game is just total bullshit.
But taken as a whole, it's unbelievably gorgeous in a way few other games can match. The exquisite animations, the phenomenal performance, the lighting in a lot of the levels, the character models(dante's jacket in-game looks WHEW BUDDY) and the way everyone's loose clothing/hair sways, etc.
The particle effects in particular are astounding. Just fuuuuuuuckin' ludicrous, man.
In-motion, this game is just total bullshit.
In-motion, this game is just total bullshit.
If you show me this when I was 13 I would literally go insane.
Sometimes people don't look at the big picture.It's the kind of game that doesn't really hold up to scrutiny when you bust out a magnifying glass and look at individuals elements in isolation. The AO, the complete lack of reflections in any water/puddles, a decent amount of blaaagh textures and geometry. Rendering-wise, it's probably not the most impressive looking game ever.
But taken as a whole, it's unbelievably gorgeous in a way few other games can match. The exquisite animations, the phenomenal performance, the lighting in a lot of the levels, the character models(dante's jacket in-game looks WHEW BUDDY) and the way everyone's loose clothing/hair sways, etc.
The particle effects in particular are astounding. Just fuuuuuuuckin' ludicrous, man.
In-motion, this game is just total bullshit.
But let's look at the small picture.
Look at this shit.
I'm clearly not seeing what everyone else is seeing here...
DMC5 looks good but playing through the entire thing as WELL as looking at the screenshots being posted in here, there is absolutely nothing blowing me away at all...
Meanwhile, it's being trounced left and right by about 95% of the screenshots it's being compared to in this very thread...Metro Exodus looks fucking AMAZING...
DMC5 looks good but playing through the entire thing as WELL as looking at the screenshots being posted in here, there is absolutely nothing blowing me away at all...
Meanwhile, it's being trounced left and right by about 95% of the screenshots it's being compared to in this very thread...Metro Exodus looks fucking AMAZING...
