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DMC 5: New king of graphics?
- Thread starter VFX_Veteran
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The crown just changes every year or two....and this would be a terrible kingdom as nothing would get done.
That's disappointing hearing about the lack of consistency. I'm still relatively early in the game but I think it has higher highs and lower lows than RE2. I'm more impressed by the lighting and model renders in DMC than RE2. No one bring out their knives but I admit to not being very impressed by RE2 outside of the character models.
Nope, sorry, as big of a DMC fan I am, compared to RDR2 it's not the best looking game out there, great looking,yes, but not the best.
DMC5 runs at 60 fps during gameplay.
RDR2 is a 27 fps warrior.
If gamers respected 60 fps more, devs would target it more often.
Such a shame....
It is stunning for sure. No RDR2, but amazing production values, designs, polish and presentation.
I'm early, but so far I'd agree.
The character models are exceptional. The materials, fabrics, accessories, and hair are truly damn near Advent-Children level good.
Cutscenes are phenomenal. Fantastic lighting, insane particle effects.
But the environments are bland as fuck. Narrow as shit. Lack variety in both materials and overall aesthetic. Damn near zero interactivity. Very flat. Again, super easy to see where they cut corners.
On PC, at least, I'd give the edge to REMake 2 over this. I'd say RDR2 is still the best looking game I've seen - though it also runs at half the framerate at best.
I can't wait to give Metro w/ RTX a roll. I'm waiting for my new laptop to arrive (9900K + 2080 + 64GB) and that'll probably the first game I play to put it through its paces.
Finally going to get the early Deep Down tech demo in playable form.
Because it's running in real time.
These models are actually processed by the hardware. And it's not like the rest was lacking (damn ingame cloth and hair physics is amazing).
I haven't played it yet (I'm still torturing myself with RDR2 because the story is so good) but that is ridiculous if when you switch to actively playing the game there is a large drop in quality. Who cares if the in game movies are good.
There'll always be a drop in quality between cutscenes and models.
Even in game though, it looks great as I said. It's just that in cutscenes, this is hands down the best 3D character models we saw in a game so far in real time.
I don't think that should be a barometer personally. I can't think of a cut scene in any game ever that I have thought - Now that is a new benchmark for graphics. Take RDR2 for instance I can't think of one cutscene I was even impressed by but riding my horse through a valley at sunrise with the morning fog about to dissipate now that is when I'm impressed.
Man those reflection next to the fountain on the street makes the whole scene look like ass.
I'm sorry guys.. but I stand by what I've seen so far. I just got to Mission 2 and went exploring the enviornments. The high quality shaders completely leapfrog any game out to date. There isn't another game that renders with this kind of quality - especially at 60FPS. Here are some more shots I made:
Take a look at the props (ballons). I've never seen such a realistic shader since TO:1886. Including Metro/RDR2 (all the other PS4 exclusives are pretty old fair by now to even compare)
Again more props with atmospheric volume smoke and heavy use of AO coupled with the materials = extremely well done graphics engine!
Impressive atmosphere here. The textures are very detailed as well as the normal maps from this distance.
Again, very good detail on the grown bricks. I can't find this consistently throughout Metro and RDR2 isn't going to be as sharp as this on PC.
Crazy detail. Show me a single setting in Metro that looks this good.
Best material work ever! Look at how they got the SSS right on the black guy's hand holding the cigarette. Show me any SSS you want that looks that good. His vest is a shiny velvet, his coat has the proper scattered light for fuzzy coat.
This is the kind of quality that I expect moving forward. And at 60FPS? I wonder what other hidden features they have in their RE Engine that can spice up the rendering even more. RTX lighting, perhaps?
Am I being punked or should I not be looking at these shots on my laptop?
These don't look good at all.
I'm not a very big fan of RDR2 but the graphics in DMC are nowhere near as good. Although DMC looks fantastic, RDR2 is on another level visually.
All that being said, I believe DMC is the better game to actually play.
All that being said, I believe DMC is the better game to actually play.
It looks like the shots in the OP were snapped with HDR enabled and aren't tone mapped.
Those balloons were actually vibrantly colourful on my screen. I don't know what is happening with those screens but OP said they took them with HDR on.
Not even that it looks worse than it does on my PC . So weird .
I'll upload some screens tomorrow
That is precisely what happened. They aren't tone mapped to SDR.
IGN still makes this mistake. They did this two E3s ago with Forza 7 and then did it again with DMC5 footage a month back. It's instantly obvious. You can create a LUT to tone map HDR to SDR, which I've done several times before, but if you don't you get bland, gray footage like that.
With IGN I'm not even surprised at their blunders anymore. Your videos always look great in both HDR and SDR especially in 4K. I'm glad you guys take the time and put in the effort to do so.
Please can you guys make a mention if a game has HDR or not? I think there've been a few videos with no mentions of whether games use it. Not that you do all the videos on the channel but it'd be much appreciated.
I did mention it in DMC5 but it was late in the video, I think. 😏
I usually try to mention at least but I'm no EvilBoris - that's man who knows his HDR.
I'm sorry guys.. but I stand by what I've seen so far. I just got to Mission 2 and went exploring the enviornments. The high quality shaders completely leapfrog any game out to date. There isn't another game that renders with this kind of quality - especially at 60FPS. Here are some more shots I made:
Take a look at the props (ballons). I've never seen such a realistic shader since TO:1886. Including Metro/RDR2 (all the other PS4 exclusives are pretty old fair by now to even compare)
Again more props with atmospheric volume smoke and heavy use of AO coupled with the materials = extremely well done graphics engine!
Impressive atmosphere here. The textures are very detailed as well as the normal maps from this distance.
Again, very good detail on the grown bricks. I can't find this consistently throughout Metro and RDR2 isn't going to be as sharp as this on PC.
Crazy detail. Show me a single setting in Metro that looks this good.
Best material work ever! Look at how they got the SSS right on the black guy's hand holding the cigarette. Show me any SSS you want that looks that good. His vest is a shiny velvet, his coat has the proper scattered light for fuzzy coat.
This is the kind of quality that I expect moving forward. And at 60FPS? I wonder what other hidden features they have in their RE Engine that can spice up the rendering even more. RTX lighting, perhaps?
I don't see this awesome Special shaders that no other Game has. Especially these grown bricks look like something from the 360 era. King of graphics is the best overall package not just cutscenes. There are many games with better looking gameplay.
You definitely mentioned it in the DMC video. Thanks as I value your input.
I think it is great that you guys have brought on board members of this community like EvilBoris and Dictator. It really brings the community together.
This shit is the best and most technically advanced video game of this generation thus far. cannot wait for TLoU2!
Most realistic real-time kiss in gaming history
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Most realistic real-time kiss in gaming history
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I would give that to the Last of Us 2 kiss, but I agree that it looks great.
I would say the cutscene models in DMC 5 are more impressive overall than U4, but the environments in U4 are easily more impressive. Again though, DMC 5 is 60 fps. It is a super impressive feat.
Upcoming games will change this debate quite significantly though, as always.
Upcoming games will change this debate quite significantly though, as always.
It is in cutscenes not 60 fps it is closer to a locked 30fps Game.
I'd agree on the best looking teeth... and the characters, enemies, effects are looking very good.
When it comes to the look of the environments not so much. I'm in chapter 11 and not impressed by the level design.
Uncharted 4 and especially RDR2 are looking a lot better in that regard.
But RE engine is a performance monster.
When it comes to the look of the environments not so much. I'm in chapter 11 and not impressed by the level design.
Uncharted 4 and especially RDR2 are looking a lot better in that regard.
But RE engine is a performance monster.
The POM there is not shadowing from that light though? It may in the sun, but that scfreen shot does not have it coming from the spot light on the flash light.
Hey now, it's a universal truth that Sony exclusives are the best-looking games ever made because of the Power of the Playstation. TLOU2 will blow DMC5 out of the water with its cinematic ~30 FPS fidelity.
Hm, Shadows are right and above the Stones, at the Center of the light are no shadows, thats not the sun or something it looks ok to me
It's VFX_Veteran. He doesn't know what he's talking about but is adamant that people think he does.
That aside, game looks great, while running at 60fps. You know they cut corners to get it to run well but that's never a bad thing if it is done well.
Dunno. I'm playing DMC5 as we speak. It looks excellent at 60fps. But Horizon, Spiderman and God of War were all much more impressive visually to me. Part of it might be their engines, but it doesn't help that DMC5 environments are very bland so far.
I'd suggest you take off your fanboy googles and take a better look again
God of war looks like a next gen game compared to DMC5
You can view the cutscene model characters in the gallery mode. The SSS really makes a difference. Hopefully if a SE version comes out for next gen consoles we can get those version of the models in game.
The cutscene models look so incredible. The hair is so impressive.
The cutscene models look so incredible. The hair is so impressive.
